recreational drug use

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If not for alcohol, I'd still be horrible at conversation. I've had some of the best coversations/experiences when drunk or buzzed. After drinking enough times, I've learned to be that relaxed without the assistance of alcohol. It's a mindset, plain and simple.

Pot is different every time for me though. Sometimes I can smoke more than everyone around me and feel nothing, and sometimes woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. It usually depends on the crowd, and I have a huge tolerance so it has to be high quality.

But with both those two, I got the odd occassional night where my body is effected but not my mind. Where I show all physical syptoms of being drunk/stoned, but I'm mentally fine. Nights like those are weird.

Alcohol is my best friend. If it weren't for alcohol, I would have killed myself seventeen years ago. Which is why I regard the current witch-hunt against smokers with concern, even though I've never smoked and regard it as a filthy habit. I know that, once they're done with the smokers, they will try to outlaw drinking, like they did in the States in the twenties. But they'll have to pry my liquor bottle out of my cold, dead hands.

Good luck with that. Most people who say things like that end up either in rehab, dead from alcoholism, or eventually they kill themselves anyway. I'm not trying to patronize you - I am an alcoholic myself, and I know that once drugs/alcohol became my best friend, I was in for a world of pain trying to let go of it once I got out of control. But, maybe you're keeping it under control better than I did.

OK my message is addressed to the original poster and everyone else who has made and argument in favour off or against recreational drug use and particularly those people who have used the term stupid.

First of all I am not stupid, IQ score 168 do advanced programming for a living, i have in the past and still do on occasion recreationally smoke weed, i dont take harder drugs because i choose not to. having recreational drug use does not make you stupid, you can use them responsibly incase you hadnt actually thought of that. What makes you stupid is using them irresponsibly, just like its irresponsible to tarnish everyone who has recreational drug use with that same brush as i take real issue with being compared to an irresponsible crack addict, there is a huge difference so i firmly agree with an earlier statement that you are truly and completely closed minded.

Now although i have used weed in the past i still know thats not a positive thing and i have switched over to legal high alternatives and they seriously do work. Spice Gold is a smoking herbal mixture which is the alternative to weed and belive me it works, i smoke that daily, it helps with my insomnia it calms my compulsions and obsessive behaviour, helps block out my intrusive thoughts etc it does wonders for helping me manage my life better without any negative side effects, and its completely legal (not in the US though). A friend of mind is setting up a business that sells this called i DeaLA so look out for it, you can get legal high alternatives for pills like MDMA as well, some called London Underground range which are BZP free also legal and safe so if anyone wants to experiment then honestly i would reccommend looking these up instead.

La de da drug use topic

I have no use for drugs. I refuse to fund crime syndicates (which is where most of these illegal substances come from) by buying their junk.

I do not drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes, and only take meds if prescribed by a qualified physician. I refuse to take any medications for psychological reasons.

minds are like parachutes, they work best when open.

well, many coffee/ soda drinkers and chocolate eaters would be amazed to know ( if they don't know already) that they are, in fact, recreational drug users. Caffeine IS a drug, and it does alter your mood/ alertness level. So if anyone wants to make a "blanket statement" by saying that ALL recreational drug use is stupid... well, I hope they didn't type that while sucking down a Pepsi cola or while eating a Hershey chocolate bar. Because they would then be making hypocritical statements.

i don't see what the big issue with recreational drug use is. you take something that makes you feel a certain way or experience certain things, those things might be enjoyable, they might not. if you use them in moderation and don't let them take over your life then i don't see what's wrong with them. i smoke pot every once in a while, i've used opioids leftover from actual prescriptions recreationally (used the rest of my pain killers for a high when i didn't need them). the only drug that i've ever had any kind of a problem with is alcohol. in september '07 i was drinking a lot, i wasn't addicted (as proven by my month-long abstinence three times this year) but i drank a lot.

anyways, back on topic. i think because of the difference in the way we think we might experience drugs differently but i wouldn't be overly concerned with it. people with adhd will actually calm down with low doses of stimulants (or high doses, i've taken decently high doses and haven't felt a rush) so don't worry about it, let him decide if he likes them or not.

Abstinence for a month three times certainly does not prove that you are addicted. In fact, if anything, the fact that you went out of your way to take a break is a major sign you might have been addicted in my opinion. And I think addiction is where 90% of the problem with drugs comes from. Aspies in particular, from what I have heard on these boards, can have a lot of trouble with moderation in general, so, I can understand why people are against them.

well the three times were for different reasons. the first time was because i got acute kidney failure (unrelated to drinking) and had to stop drinking until my kidney function returned. at first it was a bit difficult simply because i was in the habit of drinking at parties, having a beer or two after class with friends, etc.

the second time, i was depressed and didn't go to social events, so i didn't drink there and didn't bother drinking at home.

the third time i decided to stop drinking until the end of class (not including reading week and st patty's day) to prove it to a friend of mine that i could. this was pretty easy and i haven't really started drinking much since then. i still go to the occasional party or have the occasional pint(s) or pitcher(s) with friends, but most of the time i'm not drinking, despite the fact that i really enjoy the effects of even a couple of beers.

so i'll admit that i was probably close to addiction in the fall because of the sheer quantity of alcohol i was consuming on a regular basis, but in general i avoid addictive behavior. i don't even drink coffee on a regular basis because i don't want to get addicted.

reminds me of when I just started smoking weed. I would get ridiculously out of control off marijuana. Way more than my friends. I would quite literally go crazy at times.

But I smoked weed everyday for like 15 months... so Id say theres no issue. I in all honesty find marijuana helped me get in touch with more 'normal' modes of cognition.

In fact things like LSD really helped me sort out some social dilemmas with myself and sort of learn how to operate better. Honestly, if none of you have looked into this, type "autism LSD" into google, it can really have profound effect on people with autistic tendencies because the level of self-reflection it allows one to do. Which I mean obviously it has a profound effect on everyone, but aspie types I think it's all the more mind-blowing because for me atleast, some of the stuff felt like I was now tuning into the psychic flow that 'normal' people are all hooked into, but since they have been hooked into it their whole life they didn't realize they were hooked into some psychic interconnection and thus didn't even know how to begin explaining what 'normal' is.

I'm an aspie. I smoke reefer, drink, and do DXM. Recently, alcohol has started to lose it's effect. A nice buzz from a few beers isn't as noticible as it once was. Reefer and DXM both put me into a different mindspace. I have gotten somewhat tolerant to both of those over the years but being high and robo-ing still give me my kicks. I mind the comedown effects from DXM more then I used to, whereas reefer doesn't make me as paranoid as it once did.

From what I've read, DXM is really harmful to the brain (of course, so is alcohol). Be careful with DXM.

I tried DXM once, I enjoyed coming down and hated the effect it had on me.

I enjoy alcohol...it can mean the difference between me huddled all alone feeling completely stale and stiff and out of place...or me actually having a good time someplace.

It can also cause me to have pretty bad meltdowns or make a big fool of myself...(had alcohol-related meltdown just last night...)..I say it is alcohol-related because I do not think meltdown would have occurred without the really stiff drink I had...but there were external factors involved..not just the alcohol.

I cannot smoke pot at all. It does horrible horrible atypical things to me...but plenty aspies smoke pot just fine...without severe anxiety and regression nd weeping and delusions and even hallucenations...so while there may be some sort of neurological/brain-chemistry reason why pot causes such a big change in me..it is not necc. due to AS....or whatever on earth it is that I have.....

I enjoy the perspective shift that I get from stimulants...but um...I never get exactly "buzzed"...Best case scenario..focused and intense....worst case scenario...nervous and kinda paranoid...but never "hyper"...(more likely to get "hyper" with alcohol)

LSD can make me feel relaxed, lucid, at ease, social and happy...(best case scenario)...worst case scenario will have me cowering on the floor behind the couch....

and opioids will most likely make me vomit.

everybody is different.

Nah I've smoked weed and it ain't dangerous. How much does he smoke daily? The more you smoke the more your body gets used to it. First couple times I really got high and was close to passing out sometimes but once I got used to it I was just like everybody else. I guess it just depends on the person.