Would an angry Aspie do something like this?

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27 Apr 2008, 11:40 am

When I was in high school I was given an award for my academic achievement. I did not go to the ceremony to pick up the award, but I've fantasized ever since about what it could have been like if I had. Just imagine if, right after I was handed the award, I turned my back to the public, kindly put the award on the floor, unzipped my pants, and peed on the award. That would have been my way of saying I am better than all of you disrespectful arrogants and that's what you get for the treatment I was given. Then I would have been arrested and sent to see a psychiatrist...

Is that something your average angry Aspie would do? Or is it a sign of a totally different mental illness?



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27 Apr 2008, 11:41 am

I suppose an Aspie *might* do it, but it doesn't seem like a stereotypically Aspie response to me. If I saw someone do that, I would assume they had a more serious mental illness or something. It seems to be that Aspies more often either internalize their feelings, or have explosive episodes/meltdowns. The kind of planned-out flagrant and public display of contempt and disrespect sounds to me like someone with a personality disorder or something. No offense- I was trying to give an honest answer. On the other hand, you did not actually do it, so just fantasizing about it might be something else again.

Also, I don't get how public urination is a way to express that you are "better" than the audience. It seems like a way to express that you have personal problems- possibly justifying (in their minds) their low opinion of you. One way to show that you are "better" (if that is what you want to prove) would be to do awesome in life, and then come back and wow them at your school reunion.



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27 Apr 2008, 11:49 am

Oh, I've fantasised many times about things like this. I've thought it through, made the plans and imagined the consequences. The only problem is I lack the courage to do it.


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27 Apr 2008, 11:53 am

It doesn't sound like anything needing a psychiatric label on it at all. I mean, I'm sure someone would try to come up with one, but I've heard of totally "normal" guys talking about urinating on things they don't like. Not that this makes it okay, just that it seems to be a pretty common display of anger, even if a person wouldn't normally do it, they might still think about it.

I went to school with a few autistic people who dropped their pants when angry, though.

I think peeing on things is one of those sort of mammalian instincts for certain emotions and situations, and I can easily see it being a basic dominance thing.

(I used to pee on things, but more for territorial/familiarity reasons, and not around people. I know an autistic woman who actually carries pee around and drips it on things for the same reason, then everything smells familiar to her. I was never that elaborate about it, but I understand the idea.)


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27 Apr 2008, 11:54 am

anbuend wrote:
It doesn't sound like anything needing a psychiatric label on it at all. I mean, I'm sure someone would try to come up with one, but I've heard of totally "normal" guys talking about urinating on things they don't like. Not that this makes it okay, just that it seems to be a pretty common display of anger, even if a person wouldn't normally do it, they might still think about it.


Maybe it's a guy thing. *shrug* As a girl, I can honestly say I've never had this impulse.



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27 Apr 2008, 12:15 pm

Mw99 wrote:
When I was in high school I was given an award for my academic achievement. I did not go to the ceremony to pick up the award, but I've fantasized ever since about what it could have been like if I had. Just imagine if, right after I was handed the award, I turned my back to the public, kindly put the award on the floor, unzipped my pants, and peed on the award. That would have been my way of saying I am better than all of you disrespectful arrogants and that's what you get for the treatment I was given. Then I would have been arrested and sent to see a psychiatrist...

Is that something your average angry Aspie would do? Or is it a sign of a totally different mental illness?


I actually got an award (for the highest overall grade in the whole History department in the high school) of like $500 and a little placard in 11th grade. Did attend the ceremony. Absolutely not. I don't do social stuff for school unless it's something big like the Post-Graduation party (which I did go to, I won a bet with a female friend that the DJ would not play the entirety of "Holiday in Cambodia" by Dead Kennedys when we requested it. I got $5 out of that little prank and we both got a laugh). However, that FANTASY is totally normal, the action itself sounds like the last scene of an 80's teen comedy, however. I wouldn't do anything like that. If anything i'd use my writing rather than my actions.


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27 Apr 2008, 12:28 pm

LostInSpace wrote:
anbuend wrote:
It doesn't sound like anything needing a psychiatric label on it at all. I mean, I'm sure someone would try to come up with one, but I've heard of totally "normal" guys talking about urinating on things they don't like. Not that this makes it okay, just that it seems to be a pretty common display of anger, even if a person wouldn't normally do it, they might still think about it.


Maybe it's a guy thing. *shrug* As a girl, I can honestly say I've never had this impulse.


That's because you have absolutely no aim; you'd have to move around a whole lot to hit the target. :lol:



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27 Apr 2008, 12:39 pm

Well, I am MALE! I am STRAIGHT! I HAVE had odd emotions, etc... I HAVE found that people couldn't understand some of my actions, etc... I have NEVER felt like peeing on anything to show disrespect, etc... Dn't go calling this a MALE thing. I have NEVER seen a person I have known do that.

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27 Apr 2008, 12:46 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
Well, I am MALE! I am STRAIGHT! I HAVE had odd emotions, etc... I HAVE found that people couldn't understand some of my actions, etc... I have NEVER felt like peeing on anything to show disrespect, etc... Dn't go calling this a MALE thing. I have NEVER seen a person I have known do that.

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Sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to imply that all men have these impulses. I just meant that the impulse to do may be more or less strictly a male phenomenon- meaning that of the subset of humanity that has the impulse to pee on things that they don't like, all may be male. This may be only 0.5% of the male population, mind. Again, I didn't mean to offend you.

As someone else pointed out, physically, peeing on things we don't like would be a lot harder for a girl than a guy.



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27 Apr 2008, 12:52 pm

I think the peeing on stuff is somewhat male related. Maybe not EVERY male, but many from what I've seen. Not wanting to go to a social event where you'll be the center of attention can be considered an aspie thing, though.

This reminds me of a story my (NT) husband told me one time about when he was in middle school. He asked his teacher if he could use the restroom, and she said no, repeatedly. He finally got mad, and wizzed in her wastebasket. :eew:



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27 Apr 2008, 1:22 pm

Mw99, I like your av =)



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27 Apr 2008, 1:42 pm

Mw99 wrote:
When I was in high school I was given an award for my academic achievement. I did not go to the ceremony to pick up the award, but I've fantasized ever since about what it could have been like if I had. Just imagine if, right after I was handed the award, I turned my back to the public, kindly put the award on the floor, unzipped my pants, and peed on the award. That would have been my way of saying I am better than all of you disrespectful arrogants and that's what you get for the treatment I was given. Then I would have been arrested and sent to see a psychiatrist...

Is that something your average angry Aspie would do? Or is it a sign of a totally different mental illness?


What you could do is SAY you feel like urinating on their award and make a speech saying if they want to show their appreciation try treating you with some common courtesy.



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27 Apr 2008, 1:48 pm

I have never felt like peeing on anything, or planned to do so. But then, I'm not a big "fight the power" or "get revenge" kind of person. I tend to just mind my own business.



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27 Apr 2008, 2:11 pm

serenity wrote:
I think the peeing on stuff is somewhat male related. Maybe not EVERY male, but many from what I've seen. Not wanting to go to a social event where you'll be the center of attention can be considered an aspie thing, though.

This reminds me of a story my (NT) husband told me one time about when he was in middle school. He asked his teacher if he could use the restroom, and she said no, repeatedly. He finally got mad, and wizzed in her wastebasket. :eew:


I would never do THIS either, but THIS makes sense!! !! ! She denied a BASIC NEED and showed contempt for him, so he took care of his need THERE! He even put it in the WASTEbasket! :twisted: :lol:



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27 Apr 2008, 2:13 pm

Cant say ive ever wanted to do anything like this... Well maybe a little when i feel misunderstood or something but i dont think id ever do it for real.



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27 Apr 2008, 3:17 pm

tailfins1959 wrote:
What you could do is SAY you feel like urinating on their award and make a speech saying if they want to show their appreciation try treating you with some common courtesy.


I lack the public speaking skills required to do that.