Asperger's Syndrome its not just a white thing

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15 May 2008, 10:53 am

This is true, but some are aware of their own sociopathy and see no problem with it.



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15 May 2008, 10:54 am

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Is it safe to say that nonwhite Aspies are the minority?



minority where? In what geographical location? In Africa, do you think they would be in the minority? what about India? are non white Aspies the minority there? and in China and in Japan?

I can see that a major portion of the diagnosed Asperger's Syndrome folks might be ghostly white, but that is simply because it is in that demographic that the Syndrome is in The States. (i.e. majority of all diagnosed folks) But the world is wide, and the assumption does not hold when the demographics widen.

so I don't think it is safe to say that non white Aspies are the minority until we have some sort of way to measure the world's Aspies.

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15 May 2008, 10:57 am

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White supremicists are usually sociopaths. That's why "Nazi" is short for National Socialist.

A Sociopath has little or no conscience.

And?

What the hell would you want a conscience for anyway? It'll just screw up your ability to judge things fairly.


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This is true, but some are aware of their own sociopathy and see no problem with it.

*Waves*



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15 May 2008, 11:13 am

Adolf Hitler should have called it the National Socialistpath party. :lmao:



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15 May 2008, 11:23 am

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Adolf Hitler should have called it the National Socialistpath party. :lmao:

Frankly... he was somewhat more biased about who he disliked than you give him credit for. I'm fairly certain he loved the German people in his own way; he just had a rather narrow definition of "German".



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15 May 2008, 11:24 am

[quoteSounds like a certain monkey needs a swift, sharp kick in the gonads...

[/quoteBlack people can't have AS. It's a white peoples ''nerd disorder



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15 May 2008, 11:25 am

[quoteSounds like a certain monkey needs a swift, sharp kick in the gonads...

[/quoteBlack people can't have AS. It's a white peoples ''nerd disorder

not a monkey so dont call me that



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15 May 2008, 11:31 am

Ruchard wrote:
not a monkey so dont call me that


Pay attention, moron:


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.... What?

Did anyone ever say it was?
I didn't see them do so...

Yes,a user called themonkey.





[Random sidenote: Yes... you are in fact a monkey... sort of. You are part of a clade known as the "Catarrhines", consisting of Old-World Monkeys and Apes... of which humans are a part.]



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15 May 2008, 11:36 am

All I can offer is I have observed a phenomena among lower-income-level blacks (I'm speaking of the kids, now) to tease and bully other black kids for what they call "acting white." "Acting White" means (in general terms) valuing education, speaking a more formal style of English, doing well in school, and/or having "special interests" not involving sex, drugs, or violence.

Seriously, how many black nerds can you think of? That one kid doesn't count - he was a tv character. ;)

NOT saying blacks (or any other color) can't/don't have AS. I'm saying it might be more looked down upon, less tolerated. Sort of how homosexuality is less tolerated/accepted among blacks than whites. Some even claim that there are less gay blacks than gay whites. I don't believe this is true - I just believe it's hidden more and denied more and suppressed more in the black community (and this is by no means exclusive to the black community).

Just my two cents.

/have also been teased/bullied by low-income white kids for being smart, doing well in school, and using "big words"



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15 May 2008, 11:36 am

We're all monkeys here, meatbag.



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15 May 2008, 11:45 am

It would be nice if white people here refrained from making generalizations about how aspies from other cultures are treated.



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15 May 2008, 11:57 am

SotiCoto wrote:
Ruchard wrote:
not a monkey so dont call me that


Pay attention, moron:


KingdomOfRats wrote:
SotiCoto wrote:
.... What?

Did anyone ever say it was?
I didn't see them do so...

Yes,a user called themonkey.





[Random sidenote: Yes... you are in fact a monkey... sort of. You are part of a clade known as the "Catarrhines", consisting of Old-World Monkeys and Apes... of which humans are a part.]


ok, ok, look, this is a new user. Ad hominium attacks are not necessary (i.e. calling him a moron.) it was a legitimate mistake and the new user might not have American English as his first language. you guys can be pretty rough on folks, you know.

and yes, we are all animals, but that was no the point.
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15 May 2008, 12:06 pm

Autism affects blacks and whites, males and females. I've worked in schools before and have seen autism in many different types of people.



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15 May 2008, 12:48 pm

I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but in the US, race is a major cultural division. Minorities tend to have a strong sense of community among themselves, and there's a lot of pressure on their members to be "normal" by the community's standards.

For example, the black community really looks down on homosexuality. Members who wish to continually be gay tend to either disassociate themselves from that community or practice secretly. I'm sure other differences from what's expected (like AS) are often hidden in the same way.

There's probably not a greater percentage of white aspies, but very likely a greater percentage of "open" white aspies.



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15 May 2008, 1:24 pm

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Seriously, how many black nerds can you think of?


I went to school with at least three who were even nerdier than me :oops:

I've read that whites are more likely to have autism, but like other people have said, it might just have to do with low diagnosis rates as opposed to genetics.

I've only seen trolls say that black people can't have it.



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15 May 2008, 2:12 pm

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There's probably not a greater percentage of white aspies, but very likely a greater percentage of "open" white aspies.


Interesting. Socio-cultural factors may have a way of nurturing how an individual's neurological differences are revealed and accepted?

Due to how power and privilege is distributed in a society, the minority community may adopt a set of "us vs. them" survivalist principles which include the importance of community cohesion. This survivalist mentality coupled with the importance of community cohesion may offset the "openness" of neurological differences, forcing the individual on the spectrum to break out of his/her autistic shell more often and develop more mimicry or trial-and-error strategies, effectively camaflouging themselves better.

I've also heard the saying, "It takes a village to raise a child." This is probably especially relevant to a child on the spectrum as the more effective role models the child has to learn from, the more effective strategies the child has to draw from. I'll hazard to say that a minority community is set on a default "village" model due to a necessary survivalist and cohesian ethic that more or less is adopted as a defensive measure. The more privileged, majority community probably has had enough power and resources over time to do away with the "village model" and create a self-conscious meritocracy that effectively recognizes and perhaps marginalizes the "aberrations" in their own community.

I have no evidence readily available to me in regards to all this but I do like to hypothesize when inspired.