How "naughty" were you as a child?

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I sometimes have a hard time explaining to people that my 8 yr old AS son is not necessarily being naughty, but is just not able to handle the moment. I must confess that at times I find it very hard to distinguish the difference myself. So, I would like to know from other AS people to what extent they were purposely naughty as a child, compared to just coming across as being "naughty" or "defiant" as a reaction involving AS. Are there any ways you can tell the difference?

Nope. I was of the passive type. I was defiant to teachers and whatnot when they asked me to wear different clothes, take my hat off, don't shave your hair off, do your homework, etcetera. I was "defiant", and I'm sure I would have become perturbed if someone forced the issue. Luckily, no one did.

My defiance was due to the ASD.

The reason and its circumstance tell whether it's a "naughty" or normal response considering the disorder in question.

I was a model child and every teacher's pet. It simply never occurred to me that rules may be broken, so I did whatever I was told. (Still do, for the most part.)

I sort of relate to Daniel's post.

For me it was a focus issue- I NEEDED to be allowed to wander the borders of the playground during recess without teachers giving me a hard time, I NEEDED to be allowed to finish this art project, and not immediately move onto the next craft if I was particularly absorbed in it, and sometimes I would completely forget that soccer games were about kicking a ball around the field and not about picking clumps of grass out of the ground.

If I was yelled at for these things, or punished when I did not understand that I was doing something wrong, I would probably cry or stare at the floor and interact with the other children even less.

Once when I was two, I was walking around in circles for an hour- my grandmother found this inappropriate, and tried to physically force me to stop. I panicked and kicked at her. Probably because I could not understand why my behavior was odd, and couldn't figure out how to react to being touched when I didn't expect it.

But if my brother and I were ever fighting over the remote and I hit him, it probably had little to do with AS.

Not really.

My brother used to be the really troublesome one, apparently. I never really paid attention enough to know in those days.
I only ever got in trouble at home for beating up my younger brother (usually for touching my belongings)..... or at school for staying in the classroom during break time rather than going outside (it was cold out there, and there was nowhere to sit down and read).


I have only been SEVERELY disruptive on the Internet, to be honest. I'm not a major trouble-causer in person... though I have caused some small-scale events from time to time. General-purpose apathy tends to keep me from doing anything too genuinely harmful in situ.

i got lot of figths before my diagnose..maybe coz i was all time little "out" couldnt really figure emotions,what to do etc and got help only when hit 12 but meds have helped me alot..and of cource explaining a lot things

I can't say I was perfect, and I DID know some rules could be, or even should be, broken, but I was pretty much the same way LITERALLY. I saw no real reason to go to recess, so much of the time I stayed with the teachers, spoke with them, and helped.

I was actually a really angry kid. Really much so. I would go nuts at everything. I didn't try to be naughty, but I often would. I didn't really relate something to being wrong really well, and so I found that I would do things without thinking that were, inevitably, quite wrong.

Then I would spend the rest of my time lying to cover up for myself and my guilt at doing something I knew was wrong, but at that point, I didnt realise it.

I also didn't realise that going mental at someone was wrong. I would snap in three seconds straight, and i hated everyone for what I saw as antagonism.

I wasn't a naughty kid. I obeyed all the rules; I didn't see a reason not to. The thing that sometimes made people think I was being bad were my meltdowns - they thought I was doing it to get attention. I didn't understand this until years later, because the thought of having a meltdown on purpose was so foreign to me - with the way everyone acted when it happened, why on earth would I do it if I had any choice in the matter??

i was REALLY naughty and dificult, but unintentially- i rarely set out to be bad, but was always in hot water...

+i may had mild adhd, so was forever in trouble for bouncing about in my chair, wriggling etc.
+i had trouble concentrating, or would over concentrate, so not hear a question..
+i was really eager to please- perhaps because i was aware of being so different and walyts being told off, that i also came across as attention seeking that way.
+i was - until i thankfully left shcool at 16 to go to a different 6th for for my a'levels- completly under challenged at school, though i was always in the top sets, so i was BORED TO DEATH by being taught stuff below my level,a nd used to skeak books under the deak, my walkman in etdc. i also was propbaly quite cheeky as i was bored- eg- chemistry home work handed in in french 'but sir!! our french teacher TOLD us to practise french!! !'
+i had trouble with some friends, and could not understand them, and came across as being really over excitable all the time..

i think this was the biggest ting- i t was, and still, hard for me to see things in perspective. i also did not always understand exactly what was going on and would react to what i thought was happening, which was ofeten wrong... its very hard to describe- you know the way some foreigners SEEM to speak english well, but dont always answer your questions correctly- its like that..
i know my parents found me really dificult. my childhood was lovely, but i have also very strong memories of tantrums until i was in my 20s, sadly- screaming with frustration, hitting my parents, even in public- you cannot even articulate what is annoying you, so of course, noone else will understand what the problem is..
of course now, knowing about a/s, i can see- the trigger was change, or daylight, or wanting to be alone... but then- it was impossible. it was very lonely and frightening, and i was very ashamed, as i was well aware i did not fit, and was abnormal.
but since you know what your son has, you should be able to circumvent some of this, and explain it to others! good luck!

that sound awfull hoep u are beter these days

who me? i think its a little better, but mostly i just try to ignore things,a nd retreat into my own world... i ahve no social interaction at all... so yes, i suppose it is still bad..
never mind...

I was the perfect child most of my life. Rules were rules. Even as a teenager when I was told I couldn't do something, it never even occurred to me to just.. DO IT. I'm still in awe how kids do that. Defy in that way...

I am very polite and respectful, and very quiet. I got in some fights, but only to defend myself from bullies. I was in anger management in the 6th grade for trying to defend myself, and was constantly suspended because I was bullied (try and figure that out)
I stopped going to recess in the 4th grade because of bullies, and I would just go to other classes and help out.
But when I do get mad, I am like a beast, I start to tackle people who were trying to hurt me, pin them down and beat them, and when I was done with that, I would run until I passed out. (maybe that was why I was in anger management)

But normally I was and am now, very polite, and would not harm anyone unless they harm me. (usually that means 2-8 people holding me down and kicking/hitting me)

Even though I am very tall for my age, and always have been, that never intimidated bullies, right now I am 6'4" at 15 years old, and still get picked on sometimes.

I got away with a lot of stuff as a child.

I was never naughty in school when I was younger. I would always obey the rules, sometimes enforcing them on other students (congrats from the teachers, but ridicule from the students for doing so). The teachers were always very pleased with my efforts in class even if I didn't get top grades. Even though I was a loner, I didn't have any real enemies.

When I started high school, though, things changed for the worse. I became incredibley stubborn and rebellious at home and at school. I didn't even try at school and most of the time, didn't even attend. I isolated myself from peers, had confrontations with a few teachers and once even brought a knife to school as was planning to stab my P.E teacher (which thank god I didn't do, or get caught with the knife!)