How Many People Here Are actually Autistic or have Aspergers

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I am diagnosed Aspergers and ADHD. Not so sure about the second one though...

I'd say about 60-70% of people here are actually diagnosed AS. At least, it appears that way.

Anyway, all are welcome here so it's pretty irrelevant.

It is a common varient of the human neurological condition. As such it is neither a disorder or a disability.

Autism, a differance of thought and perception, only defines someone who has more of a view of self and things than of others.

Just as some people cannot stand to be alone, for their whole existance is dependant on their relating to others, things as connected to others, fads, keeping up with the Jones's, and avoiding the question, "Who am I".

It has long been seen as the human spectrum, Introvert to Extravert. Each is a syndrome of traits.

Traditionally the Extroverts have been seen to be the problem, being totally social with no sense of self, wanting things as identity, they are called Psychopaths, and Sociopaths.

Introvert is a Syndrome, and only recently studied. It does have a spectrum, and a range, it too has extreams. There is an end where it can be seen as a disorder and disability.

To meet that standard at least three things have to exist to the degree of being a serious impairment. If only two make serious impairment, you do not qualify for disorder and disability.

Like the Psychopath that the Courts fail to prove one of, Means, Motive, Oppertunity, you are ruled not guilty, and can never be tried again on that charge.

Those who flunk the three serious impairment test, sometimes by one or two points, are judged normal.

There is a large cluster of normal Introverts who are defined as not having a disorder or disability, but they still have a particular neurology.

The claims of Psychology are neither Medical or Science. But using their criteria, three serious impairments, many here fit that description. Many more missed by a few points, should have cramed for the exam? Many others came up long before the exam, and have grown thick bark.

Even for those who failed, got as little as 50% on the test, they are still Half-Aspie. They are part of a large group, perhaps 10% of all who fall on the Introvert end of the spectrum.

Rejected by the psychobabbling pill pushers, failing to qualify for a disorder, they still carry strong Introvert traits.

Wrong Planet is not based on exclusion, or making money, it supports Pan-Introvertism.

Having only one serious impairment, one at 75%, and two or three minor issues, Wrong Planet is the place to be.

We need the experts, those with four major impairments, just as we need the "I just have something of a problem with one thing."

What we have is a common neurology. I disagree with Autism Speaks, with those that say only someone with a Masters in Psychology can speak. I would prefer a Masters in History.

Our Neurology covers 10% of people, common thought, common problems, and a common search for answers. Subtracting the minority that has been Dxed, perhaps 1%, we have a large group with common views, who do not qualify for being called disordered, deranged, disabled, or being told we are not, by some Internet shrink.

We are the Introverts, odd, quirky, sometimes strange, often intelligent, often pondering the why of the universe, and what is wrong with those other humans.

We are normal sane Introverts, and when someone comes along saying the children should be fixed, I hear a Psychopath who wants to play God. Humans are hard to change and easy to damage.

I think the lack of awareness shown, the range of normal human, the right of each to be themselves, overrules your desire to fix Gods obvious errors.

What we are finding is normal Introverts can become disabled when people like yourself try to fix them, and make them into normal Psychopaths.

So bring it on Psycho boy, I will show you how to play shred the troll.

Inventor: U da man!

Quoting Ephey

There are some misapprehensions being laid bare through these posts: aspergers isn't - in my understanding, at least - a behavioural disorder, it's a learning disorder. I can't learn normal human behaviour because I don't get the cues that are fundamental to it.

Yes, there's some behavioural stuff there, but the thing we're penalised for throughout our lives is not responding right.

We can learn patterns of response that minimise the damage, but the energy with which a "normal" will pursue someone they see as having slighted them will always cut through that. So, we adapt. Imperfectly, most of the time, and certainly without any defence against the side effects of a momentary lapse in concentration, but we adapt.

And in most cases there's a balance between upsetting people and relying on the support of those who have some family connection to us. We learn what works, and then we stick with it. We're just like normals in that...

Autism is a neurological disorder (all types of), but most common neurologists don't want to touch it unless there's an associated seizure disorder present. The common psychologist/psychiatrist treats the secondary effects of the disorder (anxiety and depression), but won't bother with the core deficits as nothing [known] can help such.

It's diagnosed based on behavioural manifestations, as that's the only common universal finding so far. Brain imaging will probably aid in diagnosis in the future, but that won't offer much in ways of treatment for the genuine neurological symptoms.

Sadly, I am... not a single symptom though. I wanna shoot the person who diagnosed me.