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21 Dec 2008, 5:17 pm

Hi,

i am wondering is it common to have problems separating facts from fiction?

i mean things like assumptions about things that you do not know 100% ect, not like elaborate fantasies about being invisible and such...

it might fall under an over imaginative imagination actually?

it may be linked to similar delusions experienced when under mania (Bi-polar) and such..where one overestimates oneself s ability and so on..

any ideas with regards to this in AS?



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21 Dec 2008, 7:14 pm

Vulcan,
not sure if this is the same sort of thing,as do not understand the experiences/words have written well,but am have a teenage cousin in dublin who does not always know when something didn't happen/isn't real,he has hf autism [not as],the social services have questioned his mum and dad a lot over the years because he tells his social worker bad things that did not happen-but they happened in his head,maybe he sees a tv programme and gets it mixed up with memories of others so they end up merged.
his mum and dad were told it was part of his autism-though that wasn't by specialists in autism,a support worker here [one of the residential home staff] who knows quite a lot about basic autism told dad it sounds more like a MH side than autism.
so it sounds like it may be the MH side,but then why was he told it's part of autism [cant just be because of how bad dublin is with autism understanding].

maybe it would be good to speak to a autism or asperger specialist if want to find out further [would get more help out of a pyschologist,as they know the MH side as well and cant relie on the medical model like pyschiatrists].


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21 Dec 2008, 7:20 pm

I don't know about how common it is to have delusions.

I did find it interesting the other day when I was reading about schizophrenia and there was this "JTC" thing. "JTC" means "Jump To Conclusions" tendency.

I found that JTC pretty interesting. I have that on occasion, where I formed strong opinions based on little information. But on those occasions I'm not actually deluded because I can give probablistic explanations for why I claim those things. What was unusual about those occasions is that my conclusions were compelling and unshakeable -- as if I knew them to be true.



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21 Dec 2008, 7:38 pm

I am so hard-wired to analyse data and reach a reasoned conclusion that I find it hard to believe in anything that is not backed up with repeatably verifiable evidence. But for me, "jumping to a conclusion" is more of an intuitive leap than a rash act. That is, my unconscious self seems to grasp the underlying truth of a situation before my conscious self has had time to work through all the parameters. Between the two of us ( ;) ), we more often arrive at the same valid conclusions than not, and "I got a bad feeling about this" usually means that there is something that's not quite right and that I'm not fully aware of yet.


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21 Dec 2008, 7:43 pm

I think that you might be describing what is called 'intuitive knowing' which sometimes appears to come at you in sudden bursts or revalations and may at first appear to be waking visions or vast complicated 'imaginings'. You need to speak to a doctor either way about this so as to separate exactly what the incoming information is. Einstein had this problem and it is not uncommon for those on the spectrum to experience. I have it quite often but have learned to live with it.
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21 Dec 2008, 7:45 pm

^ Who are you addressing, me or the OP?

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21 Dec 2008, 7:47 pm

According to the doctors, I have delusions. Some of them are bizarre to the outsider but very real to me. I get something known as "thought insertion" from the government and the aliens. It is not the same as voices but its like non audible voices because the things they say are very similar to what a voice would say. Sometimes they could even be command thoughts, telling me what to do. They tell me all kinds of weird things that sound impossible.



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21 Dec 2008, 7:51 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
Vulcan,
not sure if this is the same sort of thing,as do not understand the experiences/words have written well,but am have a teenage cousin in dublin who does not always know when something didn't happen/isn't real,he has hf autism [not as],the social services have questioned his mum and dad a lot over the years because he tells his social worker bad things that did not happen-but they happened in his head,maybe he sees a tv programme and gets it mixed up with memories of others so they end up merged.
his mum and dad were told it was part of his autism-though that wasn't by specialists in autism,a support worker here [one of the residential home staff] who knows quite a lot about basic autism told dad it sounds more like a MH side than autism.
so it sounds like it may be the MH side,but then why was he told it's part of autism [cant just be because of how bad dublin is with autism understanding].

maybe it would be good to speak to a autism or asperger specialist if want to find out further [would get more help out of a pyschologist,as they know the MH side as well and cant relie on the medical model like pyschiatrists].


MH? what does it stand for?

also, i think it is a bit like what you describe here, but not to such a large extend, or atleast i am not aware of it...it seems like a combination between this confusion and the JTC described by ephemerella.. its very hard to explain and so that is why i had such limited information to begin with...

but its not so "big" in scale, its very limited...



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23 Dec 2008, 8:04 am

I sometimes have problems with whether something happen or I just dreamed it. But then I can sometimes have very real dreams.

Like for example I once asked my mum whether she had asked me to get her some bacon from the shop. She hadn't I'd just dreamt it, but I was sure she had.