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08 Mar 2009, 4:18 pm

Does anyone have any idea on what could fix this? BAsically there is some abnormal/dead cell mass in my dopamine nerves severing the connnection between my frontal lobe and the rest of my brain. its preventing me from moving forward in recovery and straining relationships with my family friends and caregivers. It was caused by acety-l-carntine creating bad connections on top nicotine/caffeine on top of a dopamine system intially reseting itself after a long period with neuroleptic drugs, the effect is a simliar to a lobotomy in terms of mental impairment.
Now i know that i had a similiar effect with acetyl-l-carnitine before when on meds but the meds broke it down after a while. i dont think taking risperdal again is an option as would make me severyl ill again. also a nutrional protocol i was given including some homeopathics started me on
returning to brain function/mental status. ANyone have any ideas on fixing it?



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08 Mar 2009, 4:22 pm

That is extremely concerning. Have studied effects of actual frontal lobotomy, unfortunately I do not have suggestions for you as I am not familiar with details. Hope someone can help you come up with something as this must be very disturbing and worrying for you (at least it would be for me).


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08 Mar 2009, 4:27 pm

ECT?

What are your doctors saying?


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08 Mar 2009, 4:31 pm

they dont seem to know what it is. md nd just sort gives me stuff without really knowing what the effect will be.


and ect thats really a bad idea. that would cause generalized damage not break this up



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08 Mar 2009, 4:36 pm

nightbender wrote:
also a nutrional protocol i was given including some homeopathics started me on returning to brain function/mental status. ANyone have any ideas on fixing it?


Homoeopathic medicine does not work at all, but does also no harm, if you think it helps, take it - perhaps you just time for the self repair mechanisms of the brain.



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08 Mar 2009, 4:43 pm

im not getting into an argument on the validity of holistic medicine. I take homeopathics for sleep and anxiety and they work just fine. I need [i]ideas not people dumping on stuff that has done so much to heal me.



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08 Mar 2009, 5:03 pm

I Think you're one of the most articulate people with lobotomy-like symptoms I've ever run into.
Maybe if caffeine, etc., is part of the problem, possibly reducing your intake of such might be part of the solution.



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08 Mar 2009, 5:42 pm

already done that
i have 0 caffeine intake



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08 Mar 2009, 6:47 pm

How certain is the diagnosis/pathology? Maybe the treatment isn't working because the problem is something else? I've heard of neuroleptics like Risperdal having some known neurological toxicity, but not N-A-carnitine (not saying it's not possible, it just seems unusual.)



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08 Mar 2009, 6:57 pm

THC ? :lol:



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08 Mar 2009, 7:02 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
How certain is the diagnosis/pathology? Maybe the treatment isn't working because the problem is something else? I've heard of neuroleptics like Risperdal having some known neurological toxicity, but not N-A-carnitine (not saying it's not possible, it just seems unusual.)


fairly

i have no other idea of whats going on



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08 Mar 2009, 8:49 pm

warface wrote:
ECT?

What are your doctors saying?


WHO said ECT? ECT is STUPID, and basically would do the same sort of thing, causing MORE damage.

Nightbender,

Have you tried acetyl-l-choline and phosphatidyl serine? THEY are used in studies to fix problems such as yours. I, like many here, can tell you they DO help! You may even be able to get them at a drug store(OTC)!

Most Homoeopathic mixtures are GARBAGE! One here, that claims to cure the common cold, actually says on the ingredients that it is 100% SUGAR! Oh SURE, it has TWO sugars, and they give some medical sounding garbage that basically means it has 0% of some made up tripe, but it is 100% SUGAR!



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08 Mar 2009, 8:52 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
warface wrote:
ECT?

What are your doctors saying?


WHO said ECT? ECT is STUPID, and basically would do the same sort of thing, causing MORE damage.

Nightbender,

Have you tried acetyl-l-choline and phosphatidyl serine? THEY are used in studies to fix problems such as yours. I, like many here, can tell you they DO help! You may even be able to get them at a drug store(OTC)!

Most Homoeopathic mixtures are GARBAGE! One here, that claims to cure the common cold, actually says on the ingredients that it is 100% SUGAR! Oh SURE, it has TWO sugars, and they give some medical sounding garbage that basically means it has 0% of some made up tripe, but it is 100% SUGAR!


i take both and alot more like it, no serious change.

i have taken homeopathics for sleep anxiety and the cold and gotten good results.



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08 Mar 2009, 9:43 pm

nightbender wrote:
Most Homoeopathic mixtures are GARBAGE! One here, that claims to cure the common cold, actually says on the ingredients that it is 100% SUGAR! Oh SURE, it has TWO sugars, and they give some medical sounding garbage that basically means it has 0% of some made up tripe, but it is 100% SUGAR!


i take both and alot more like it, no serious change.

i have taken homeopathics for sleep anxiety and the cold and gotten good results.[/quote]

Sleep anxiety is mainly a psychological problem, in which the mind can work very strongly. The common cold disappears in the most cases on its own (old saying: "Common cold with treatment: Two weeks; Common cold without treatment: 14 days").

Homoeopathic mixtures work on the principle that something which causes the same symptoms shall cure if depleted enough (there is no prove, it was just the idea of a man called Hahnemann). The more depleted the stronger should be the effect. So caffeine depleted 1 : 10^40 and weaker is sold as sleeping agent (one molecule in the ocean or so ...).



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08 Mar 2009, 10:29 pm

Dussel wrote:
nightbender wrote:
Most Homoeopathic mixtures are GARBAGE! One here, that claims to cure the common cold, actually says on the ingredients that it is 100% SUGAR! Oh SURE, it has TWO sugars, and they give some medical sounding garbage that basically means it has 0% of some made up tripe, but it is 100% SUGAR!


i take both and alot more like it, no serious change.

i have taken homeopathics for sleep anxiety and the cold and gotten good results.


Sleep anxiety is mainly a psychological problem, in which the mind can work very strongly. The common cold disappears in the most cases on its own (old saying: "Common cold with treatment: Two weeks; Common cold without treatment: 14 days").

Homoeopathic mixtures work on the principle that something which causes the same symptoms shall cure if depleted enough (there is no prove, it was just the idea of a man called Hahnemann). The more depleted the stronger should be the effect. So caffeine depleted 1 : 10^40 and weaker is sold as sleeping agent (one molecule in the ocean or so ...).[/quote]

please i need ideas not people hijacking my thread to debate the validity of holistic medicine.



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08 Mar 2009, 10:45 pm

nightbender wrote:
please i need ideas not people hijacking my thread to debate the validity of holistic medicine.


My suggestion: Wait till your brain re-regulates itself. If your reason is strong enough to understand a problem than you can handle by yourself. Our brain are very flexible organs.