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AlMightyAl
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29 Mar 2009, 1:20 am

I am in an Arc program at my school which pretty much gives me two blocks - Socials Skills and Tutorial block for doing homework - and extra support, but the extra support is actually bringing me down.

When I get all this support I get lazy, which the extra ends up backfiring on me and I end up getting bad marks, when I know for a fact that if I didn't get it I would be doing better. When I tell my parents and the Arc teacher, they don't really believe me.
I completely want to be cut off from all support and to do EVERYTHING in school on my own.



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29 Mar 2009, 11:45 am

I was the same way. The more help and pesronalized attention I got at school, the worse I did. Yet they wouldn't stop trying. It was like the pressure made it harder or something. And my natural tendency to take as much rope as you'll give me... extentions, ect.

I did best when everyone just ignored me and let me sink or swim on my own.



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29 Mar 2009, 11:47 am

I like the social skills support I get, but rarely find all the other support helpful. I just have a VERY irritating support teacher.
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29 Mar 2009, 12:57 pm

zghost wrote:
I was the same way. The more help and pesronalized attention I got at school, the worse I did. Yet they wouldn't stop trying. It was like the pressure made it harder or something. And my natural tendency to take as much rope as you'll give me... extentions, ect.

I did best when everyone just ignored me and let me sink or swim on my own.


Yeah, exactly.



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29 Mar 2009, 4:09 pm

Well I don't know Canadian laws (or even school systems), but I was put in private school because my parents thought it would be better for me. I hated it. And I hated all the personalized attention I got.
The dropout age here is 17. When I was 16 (before the start of my junior year), I told my parents I wanted back in public school. They said no. They made me stay in private school. So I did nothing, which of course got me sent to the school counsler. I told her I didn't want to be there, turned 17 that year, and was going to switch. She called my parents and suggested they let me go now, rather than lose several months of school.
So they did. And I graduated.

Okay, rambling. But my point is, if there are different school options, maybe you can switch. And if they won't let you, when you get old enough to threaten to quit, then they probably will agree.

Or maybe you can just get out of this Arc program, whatever that is.



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29 Mar 2009, 4:22 pm

I hate all the attention I get, I'm fine on my own but they don't seem to realise, every lesson I'm in the teacher talks to me in this sickly sweet voice and it makes me feel really different and/or stupid. I used to go to a social skills group 2 years ago, it was fun but didn't make much difference anyway.
I don't mind having an "IEP" so much I just don't wan't people to act on it. Last year I was really frustrated about it to the point I was in denial about who I was and kept saying that I was just like everyone else and I was NT etc and they all got it wrong. Yes that's how much I hated the extra stuff.
When I go to college I'm having a mentor I meet up with every now and again but nothing else just the bare minimum support, which I'm OK with as long I don't get patronised like I do at school.


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29 Mar 2009, 5:00 pm

zghost wrote:
I was the same way. The more help and pesronalized attention I got at school, the worse I did. Yet they wouldn't stop trying. It was like the pressure made it harder or something. And my natural tendency to take as much rope as you'll give me... extentions, ect.

I did best when everyone just ignored me and let me sink or swim on my own.


Ironically, the best support I had was at home.
My family knew what was best for me academically.
In the end, I got to the point where I could work alone on educational CD Roms.
DK was fantastic for my solo, explorational, structured learning style.
We donated any surplus resources to the school afterwards.
I loved studying and solving problems on my own: it gave me such a sense of fulfillment.

I usually did fine on my own grades wise (organisation and academic wise) until I had to work with people on group projects/ socialise alone. I could never find a group or partner to work with, someone always had to allocate people for me.

Things went pretty rapidly downhill after that.

The reason why I don't actively seek help with socialising now is I'm afraid that the patronising pity brigade will descend on me just like they did last time.

It's funny how some people like zooming in on other people's weaknesses and claim that they're "incapable" oblivious to any strengths that that person might have :roll:.
Or have the idea that if someone can't learn something in a noisy, overwhelming classroom setting by chatting to one's classmates then that automatically means that the learner is "stupid".

There's more than one way to problem solve, just like there's more than one way to learn.