The autism spectrum is a partial lie
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2. And I don't how to say anything really without thinking about what I am going to say first, sorry if that bothers you or anyone else I am fine with it because I don't like small talk anyways. But it still can cause unpleasent social situations that cause me pain.
3.I have serious depression, I do my best not to mope about but it is something I have to live with every day and sometimes it gets so bad I become sucidal, and that is a very scary unpleasent place to be. I can't just up and get over having a mental illness with pure willpower.....I can cope with it the best I can though. coping=doing something about it.
but thank you for being another person to tell me how I need to 'get up and do something about it.' or 'just get over it' When I have been having to cope with depression for most of my life mostly alone because no one knew or cared...and I can cope but it is not realistic for people to assume I can just think it away. have you ever been severly depressed for 14 years?
4. I am not talking about when I was a child.....I am talking about even now it is never pleasent to have someone to accuse you of lying when you aren't.
5. I am not sure exactly why I got PTSD....all I know is I was sitting in the classroom reading and an announcement came on and told us something about a Code White alert(apprantly that is code word for lockdown). So the teacher turned off the lights told us to sit on the floor out of the view of windows and doors. during this a girl told me she was suprised I was not the psychopath with the gun which did not help......I mean I guess she did not think maybe I was not enjoying it anymore then her. Then a cop with a gun drawn came in to escort us downstairs to another room, the swat team was in the hallways. Then we got evacuated to another building where we sat for hours until they finally had us get on buses to be taken to the elementary school to get picked up. I assumed I was fine the following days because I had felt somewhat calm during the whole ordeal while a lot of others where crying and such. But then when we went back to school I noticed I could not focus on reading which had been my favorite activity up until that took place. I still tried to ignore it, tried to convince myself I had not been affected after all, I did not see the girl get shot so I figured it might cause ridicule and felt I could not handle that......but yeah I have all the required symptoms.
First: Don't force yourself to do anything. It's not helping you obviously.
Second: Everyone feels pain. I do. I didn't let myself become overwhelmed psychologically and believe me I went through a real sh** stage of my life filled with misery, stress and bouts of depression.
Third: Look, coping does not mean the same as ending. Furthermore, no amount of time makes it so significant. And no problem, I do like telling people the obvious when they shy from it, especially since I had it myselkf. I didn't just let it overcome me though. Best to overcome though in the end. In any case you sound like you're in a limbo where you're out of control of your body. That unhealthy outlook is why your depression persists and most of the time these things do persist because of outlook.
Fourth: Same. But as I said, I just answer.
Fifth: That jerk didn't help.
In any case you sound like you're in a limbo where you're out of control of your body. That
Well there are some things I kind of have to force myself to do like eat, shower ect. these can be difficult tasks when my depression gets bad.
I never indicated that everyone does not feel pain, and its not a stage of my life I have had depression ever since I can remember...not bouts either more like chronic depression so most of the time I feel depressed or numb. I sometimes enjoy myself but not consistantly.
I know coping is not the same as ending and how is anything you said obvious.....And I don't agree with what you said about the depression. It was actually kind of hurtful because a lot of people that really don't understand tell me how I just need to grow up, get over it, get self esteem, put more effort into it(when is all the effort I have going to be enough(I mean you can only squeeze so much juice out of an orange before it becomes empty) and just quit being depressed like in some twisted way it is all my fault I have a mental illness.
And I am pretty sure I feel like I am in control of my body....I regulate what I eat, what I do, if I want to drink a beer or not ect. I do seem to have an issue with feeling detatched sometimes which is bothersome but it does not happen very frequently.
And I am pretty sure I feel like I am in control of my body....I regulate what I eat, what I do, if I want to drink a beer or not ect. I do seem to have an issue with feeling detatched sometimes which is bothersome but it does not happen very frequently.
I didn't say that you made yourself have a mental illness at all :/ And stop sounding like you're the only one who has ever had depression and therefore feel like you can treat these comments as simply hurtful and twist what they say out of proportion. I had it too for a short while.
I don't think the political forum is the best place to get good recommendation with regards to autism and depression. Might I suggest the Haven sub-forum. Reason being is it's a political discussion so responses may be more geared toward "agenda". The autism pride solutions are not always good for depression.
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Autism pride? More absurd chaarges ci? But yeah, if you wont take my word for it that I was depressed and dealt with it then go to specialists.
Everyone's depression is different. Mine had to do with exclusion. It to professionals to correct it.
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Aye, if that is so. But depression has its similar causes. He shouldn't be so willing to reject my views though since I have dealt with depression, true depression too. The kind where taking a shower feels like pulling a boulder up mount everest and all you want to do is sigh.
I disagree with the notion that autism has nothing to do with depression. Depression can manifest as a result of preexisting disability. At times it comes across as an attitude by pride-mites that it's something entirely different as if to keep away from the image of autism and themselves. I think them folks are to proud and logically blinded by it.
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I don't have a disability. Also I think saying that somehow depression and autism are innately connected is dangerous and completely based on supposition. I think you are making up stealth charges about people and using phrases such as logically blinded to keep up some veneer of credibility.
There you go again with your supposition because it's natural as you have an agenda to protect and relating bias just as most people do. Autism is a disability under the law. If your saying you do not have a disability as defined under federal law then that's for you. I however never said having autism means also having depression. It's a scary thing to you to associate it just like saying autism is a disability you don't like either. People who have disabilities and because of those disabilities are not included like others due to the disability being substantial can experience associated depression.
Very logical! It's scary it's so logical!
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Not really. I don't have an underlying agenda that attempts to overthrow the truth. And again you accuse me of supposition! Where is the supposition ci? Are you just making accusations without proof again?
That is what I said isn't it? I don't have a disability? Let others say they have a disability if they want. Some of them probably do. I don't. I am just different.
That's what I said too:
Which is related to:
I didn't say autism also means you are having depression. Deal with it ci, you lost the plot.
No, you did ci. Youa ssociated it.
Well of course it is. But you don't get it do you? You said they were somehow linked, but causation doesn't mean correlation. You said that you disagree with the notion that autism has nothing to do with depression. You said it was innately connected. Then I said that this is wrong and somehow you twist it in to meaning that I said that you think autism means also having depression, which is not what I said at all! I simply said that there is no causative link! Stop trying to accuse me of things.
Ugh, you're so stuck up your own theory that you can barely tell what I am saying.
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And I am pretty sure I feel like I am in control of my body....I regulate what I eat, what I do, if I want to drink a beer or not ect. I do seem to have an issue with feeling detatched sometimes which is bothersome but it does not happen very frequently.
I didn't say that you made yourself have a mental illness at all :/ And stop sounding like you're the only one who has ever had depression and therefore feel like you can treat these comments as simply hurtful and twist what they say out of proportion. I had it too for a short while.
Where did I say I am the only one with depression, my issue is you where claiming all I was experiancing was natural depression based on actual things in life to be depressed about......I was trying to clear up that I actually have chronic depression. I just feel like you're kind of accusing me of things that aren't exactly true...and ok maybe AS is not a disability at all to you.......but to me it is because of the things I initially mentioned besides the PTSD, Anxiety and Depression.
I mean it is kind of a personal issue I guess, so its hard for me to not get a little upset if someone is bombarding me with 'helpful' advice that maybe does not really apply to my situation. Especially the PTSD, I did not particularly want to explain the whole thing.
And assuming my lack of social skills comes from being bullied? sorry but the initial lack I was born with due to AS, was actually one of the reasons I was bullied not the result of it....you don't know me so don't try and assume things and then get aggrevated when I disagree.
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Aye, if that is so. But depression has its similar causes. He shouldn't be so willing to reject my views though since I have dealt with depression, true depression too. The kind where taking a shower feels like pulling a boulder up mount everest and all you want to do is sigh.
I am a female and that is the sort of depression I have experianced for 14 years of my life, some days are better then others but it's always there.....and so I have to cope with it and continue on my life as best as I can. I don't see the problem.
You're a girl? Well, I am sorry if I insulted you there. That wasn't intentional. Well if it is the same then yeah, I felt as you felt for a short while and it was eally intense. Interestingly my depression was caused by relationship problems. You don't have to cope. You can overcome. Much of it in my case was my attitude to the depression or the problem that caused it. Overcoming depression by fighting it off is hard but not impossible.
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You're a girl? Well, I am sorry if I insulted you there. That wasn't intentional. Well if it is the same then yeah, I felt as you felt for a short while and it was eally intense. Interestingly my depression was caused by relationship problems. You don't have to cope. You can overcome. Much of it in my case was my attitude to the depression or the problem that caused it. Overcoming depression by fighting it off is hard but not impossible.
Maybe for you....but as I said my depression has lasted for as long as I can remember, and it was not over something direct like a relationship problem. That sort of depression tends to be easier to overcome because you can directly relate it to the problem and fix the problem and then overcome any left over feelings of depression.
Well with most depressions there is something that can reasoned. Was it how crap ou have been treated?
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Well with most depressions there is something that can reasoned. Was it how crap ou have been treated?
Those things add to it, but yeah there is depression caused by the chemicals related to mood not working right...It could be said I have both clinical depression and life related depression, things in life I am depressed about I can usually find ways of improving but it does not get rid of the general depressed mood I am in. Also I don't have much confidence at all which can make things more than overwhelming.
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