Why is aspie separatism/supremacy controversial?

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Tthe idea that it evolved as the next step is rediculious since it is uncommon, and therefore less likely to be passed on. However, since "survival of the fittest" is out, societal pressures could, in theory, make it predominant. But society would have to advance to the point where ASD traits equals greater reproduction

I once read that the same gene that resists cancer is linked to autism. I have noticed that my friends with ASD have grandparents who died with cancer, but not parents. I have never heard of an autie getting cancer, but I am terrible at google searches, so don't mind that last statement too much. If for some reason cancer was less common in ASD people, what would that mean for everyone?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27slFlR9CE[/youtube]

Check him out, I just happened to find him when I had a combined search with mayans and aspergers syndrome, I think he has a strong point.

Kid in video is almost there. All he has to do is make one big leap. You preempt a population via religion for a few thousand years with the apocalyptic memes then this is where their collective action leads. They will not be aware of what they are doing. Those little memetic brain-lighter-uppers will give them what feels like a religious experience every time an individual's role in the global complex interaction is completed. It concatenates across nations, self synchonizes. They can not accept that this is simply nature's solution to over population. Its a culling instinct dressed up in philosophy ,religion, geopolitics, economic theory etc.- keep them blind to it by whatever means and they will cull.

We stand back, start reasoning this through. They lack this capacity to objectify the process they are caught up in. The meek is simply a rule of thumb calculation of outcome of competing evolutionary strategy. It was abstracted and expressed in religious language. When its got the power of something that is experienced as religion it becomes a directive, like a bit of software code running the consciousness of those creating the mass behavior.

Imagine if you could demonstrate this set of apocalyptic memes actually has a mathematical base, show how it triggers of aspects of consciousness. Would you give that to NT's? I bloody well wouldn't.

I don't have speakers, but I do push the apocalyptic.

The current all and everything is a fluke, an event caused by odd weather patterns over the last 500 years. In the 500 before the Little Ice Age lead to the waves of Black Death, crop failure, Vikings coming south, and Crusades to dispose of excess population.

A few degrees cooler, we will be back to normal, after the die off.

Nothing I like better than reporting a coming wind storm to those living in a house of cards.

It makes the choice between a Democrat, or a Republican, the Tweedlide, Tweedledum choice it is.

Betting on human failure is as close as it gets to a sure thing.

it is the story of four people in a boat that flips, they are strong, healthy, they hang on to the keel, and over one night three just let go and sink. Most just give up and die.

They are already on the edge, disasters lead to people killing themselves, or each other.

A failure of "Leadership," a population die off.

I am in favor of it.

Honest simple answer, Fear and Arrogance.

The very notion of genetic diversity from the norm is so unthinkable, the idea that normal humans aren't already "perfected" genetically speaking is so "out there" and uncomfortable, is exactly why the first white people to meet an aboriginal IMMEDIATELY assumed they we're not human and we entered the [sarcasm] wonderful time [/sarcasm] of Slavery.

Sorry to disappoint the more scientifically minded of us, but "evolution" and the naturally occuring genetic mutations that enables this process, does not EVER stop except with the complete cessation of that species, but then it carries on in other species, humans ARE and HAVE been evolving, but you are looking from a 90 year life span at a process that works on the microscopic tens of thousands+ years scale, the minor genetic variations in humans that can have multiple "symptoms" but CANNOT be traced to environmental causes (radiation damage/certain toxins) are a result of this slow ongoing often unnoticed process, it has been over ten thousand years since the last Notable evolution of homo spaiens, what? you thought it just stopped cause we rock? heh, no. a number of untraceable (cause wise anyway) birth defects are /possibly/ the result of nature doing what it does, Trying new things by mutating old working systems, some will be, some wont be, but we're easily due a very minor alteration/evolution by now and its possibly happening where we are just not seeing.

RE: Aspie's and evolution, Eee well im about to disappoint some people..

If we all moved to Alaska, then we are guaranteed representation in the U.S. government on a federal level. It's a long shot, but it may work. There is also the possibility of choosing a random country, having EVERY autistic individual capable of the travel move there, and by numbers alone, get everyone else to move out. I think it's a very bad idea, but it sounds like some of this sites users would like it. I personally don't mind the Alaska idea, though it does have the U.S. immigration laws set against it.

Because putting yourself above a certain group of people is just arrogance and I'll have no part of that.
I've also heard people talk about ADHD and dyslexia as the next step in evolution.
You've got some competition there, aspies.

Pensive- my money's on the Hard-AI Transhumanists , in the long term ( they are just a bit batty at the moment, it's seriously good idea though). Might take a more than a few Aspies to figure out how to integrate various fields.

Would it be controversial for painters to group together by connected talents?

Should something be done about their "Art Schools" Artist's Colonies?

What about Art Galleries?

We have stores that sell home furnishings, we have trained Interior Designers who should be telling artists what the market needs, and demanding that their work match the drapes and carpets.

Artists who know nothing of the market demand still paint as they see fit and market their works.

It takes years to select the future colors and textures of home furnishings, and artists will change the publics perception of Color, Texture, Form, on just a whim.

When anything diverges from established social norms, it should be stopped?

Highly trained Psycholigists know what the market demand for minds is, and spend their time keeping the mass of people within the confines of acceptable thought, religious worship, obeying governments, and providing their lives for the benefit of employers.

When they deem a group defective, that group should labor to seek approval. To become acceptable to Psycholigists.

In a town of a thousand coal miners, ten painters do nothing for the coal industry.

They should be intergrated into the culture, should at least produce work that shows the value of labor and the glory of industry.

It is not just the mines, it is also the mills, shipyards, and in towns that live by producing buggy whips and sealing wax. In every town there are a few who just do not fit the culture, who are always showing a differance of thought and perception.

Some are painters, others are lost in thought about new inventions, always seeking "Better" ways of doing things, which is nothing but making war on the present.

Different is subversive, a threat to our Sacred Flag, way of life, and are the enemy within.

Different has produced machines that have destroyed the value of labor, existing factories, and upset long established social structures. Villages that every man woman and child have labored for one family that owned the spinning mill have become unemployed by one new machine, all from a single differance in thought and perception.

It is not just the few. The different first took our best farm hands, who moved to villages for a life of industry, then the best of our villages who moved to cities for technology, and now the best vanish into post technology, Hidden on the Internet, bringing change in established means of marketing.

Less than 1% works to change the way of life for the other 99% without their permission, consent, and without the approval of the existing social structure.

So far the bulk of people have kept existing order in the face of change.

Disruptive types of thought have been labeled, isolated, and programs of treatment tried.

Just as Behavior Poice have been needed to maintain existing order, now Thought Police are also serving our honorable traditions.

Difference in thought and perception must be contained, isolated, for if they ever gathered together the rate of change would overwhelm our carefully planned and methodical path of social progress.

The choice is clear, it is between the world of everything you know, or a future where everything will be different.

Change must be controlled, it must be kept at a rate where people can adapt over generations.

The worst possible outcome would be the forces of change gathering outside of majority rule, and producing change at an unlimited pace.

No industry would know if it would exist tomorrow, no marketplace would be secure, and youth would not follow in the long trodden paths of their class.