word to replace nurotypical

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I like Normies, Kens and Barbies too.

Based on the context you provided 'normocentric' applies to people who view 'normal' brain wiring as conforming to societal norms. This is more of a heuristic rather than a label for describing normality.

No neurologist/psychiatrist/psychologist need to check how anyone's brain is wired to give a DSM diagnosis. Moreover there is no biological marker for autism (except for secondary autism such as Rett or Xfragile). The diagnosis is given based exclusively on clinical symptoms and signs. And clinical normality is defined statiscally as a bell curve of physical and psychological functioning across individuals in a society.

If "conforming to societal norm" sounds too heuristic (biased) for you, then let's say the ones in the middle of a normal distribution, which of course is just another way to say the same.

Ok I understand this...



My only point is 'nuerotypical' is a label often applied to people who appear adjusted to normal social function. Nuerocentric is a subset of nuerotypicals who gravitate or have a preference for nuerotypicals.

I agree with you that conforming to societal norms is a prerequisite for social funtionality so there is overlap..

I understand that mybe in English the word 'centric' applied as a suffix has a slightly negative connotation (as in the ones who see normal as the "correct way"). I really appreciate your input since English is not my native language.

But to my understanding "center", "middle", "mainstream" are equally valid. Instead, I give a different set of attributes to the word "typical". Because -just to put an example- are people with ADHD NT? If you think NT as something theoretical as "typically wired brain" then maybe they are. But a person with severe ADHD might need support, like an aide for school. So that person has special needs and does not "conform to the norm". And please notice there is no moral judgement at all in my statement, just noticing the difference, and why I think it's kind of pointless to talk about "typical" when it comes to something other than the autistic spectrum.

Yes I agree with your commetns on 'typical"...labels are just designed to pigeonhole groups of people into convenient classification. I wasn;t actually trying to be scientific, more semantics relating to the accuracy of the NT label.

I'm going with Herd People from now on. It gets right to the core of what's different about them. Plus, it's mildly insulting, which I think is a good thing.

Cyberdad, I've enjoyed our tiny bantering about semantics and other topics with you, it has been insightful to me

MrKnowItAll, Nietzsche actually defined morality as the "herd instinct of the individual". You are actually very spot on by referring to NTs as "herd people", not insulting at all. I just happen to pick my friends very well

No worries Moriel, this has been the longest conversation I have had with any individual on WP. Given you are NT I guess it may be an indication I am more NT than AS

Aren't we 'herding' right now?

Why do you think that's actually a good thing? To take one trait of people who maybe treated you bad in the past ( =>not being autistic) and put this label on every human on earth except your arbitrarily defined sub-group is not only incredibly illogical ( there are more states one could differentiate as not "neurotypical", not only your neat little aspie-club), but also plain stupid.

How can you possibly even remotely like the idea of categorizing the world into AS vs non-AS? It's quite funny to watch self-proclaimed superior aspies just making the same mistakes like all the "NTs" they're mad at. The same logical fallacies, the same cognitive biases over and over again...Do I feel surrounded by idiots sometimes? Of course, but so does everyone else.
And let's face it, being autistic does not inherently give anybody an advantage over the rest of the world.
It's simply not true.
Yes there are mindless people out there who are not thinking for themselves at all. But you can find the same thing right here in this forum, where people diagnose their favourite rock star with autism based on youtube clips and wishful thinking, believe that an aspie republic would work better than anything we have right now and that autism is basically the next step of human evolution.

...and you talk about "herd people" while creating a superior in-group for yourself? Really? Do you notice the irony by yourself?

You know, I've had my fair share of bad experiences with people that judged me following their intution instead of using their brain. I've lost a job because they told me you can't be in nursing school while being a psychopath(!). So yeah, I absolutely hate these people. But there are 8 billion more out there. And putting a label on them all is exactly the same stupidity many autistics complain about when others do it.
So why would you insult the rest of the world? For every a**hole out there, there's also a nice caring person. And most of the elite in virtually any field, science,arts, whatever, is actually NOT autistic. That's simply a fact. Yes there are a few savants out there, but let's face it...most of the "special talents" a lot of aspies think they have are nothing but mediocre when put in the right context. Just like anybody else. We are not an elite, deal with it!

OMD!! !! I love the way you think!! !

7 billion

I call the masses~~~~Sheeple for the same reason~~its got a nice ring to it

Well said!! !

It puzzles me that parts of the the oh-so intelligent AS-community are seemingly unable to realize how they fall into the same patterns of self-aggrandization and intolerance they accuse the rest of the world of. You want unconditonal acceptance and tolerance towards your way of being (as a person and neurologically speaking as well), while calling the whole human population minus whatever you define worthy of being part of your in-group an aberration?

And since we're apparently generalizing people based on a singular trait, why don't we start calling dark skinned people ni**ers again? You know, I'm German (arbitrarily defined group A), so let's go back to hating Jews (arbitrary group B)!
It's the same thing, and you're proud of it. That's why I'm particularly pi**ed off by your way of thinking, we had this mentality about 80 years ago in my country and we all know what happened. Shouldn't you know better?
Also, why should non-autistic people show any respect for maybe out-of the ordinary behaviours if you are disgusted by their rituals and quirks as well?

Sometimes I'm almost ashamed of some of the stuff written in this forum. If anyone wants to find out something about autistic people, they'll probably find internet boards and read all this intolerant and close minded bullsh*t.
Now it's not wrong to me to have such feelings of hatred towards others, and I can understand it to some degree. But these are just emotions and they don't allow an accurate judgement over the majority of people existing at all.