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04 Nov 2010, 9:17 pm

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It's so worth it, though. I can't begin to describe how sick it feels to have your stomach stop processing food while it's all there in a sloshy lump, rotting.


i can't help wondering if a consult with an internal medicine specialist might be a good thing for you, if you have not already done so. symptoms like what you describe sound like a problem with enervation of the stomach. at the very least, you might benefit from supplemental digestive enzymes as a nutritional supplement. just a thought.


I've got so much wrong with my body that I have to choose my battles and the PCOS is number one on my list so that's the only thing I'm fighting to get fixed right now. My clinic has decided that since I'm on disability for a "mental health issue" I must obviously be a hypochondriac and so I go years without treatment for serious conditions while the clinic will only give me a referral to a psychiatrist, not an actual medical specialist or even simple blood tests and treatment. Because I'm on medicaid, I don't have the option to switch doctors - I'm stuck with the clinic that won't listen to my medical needs.

My digestion has been poor ever since I had my gall bladder removed eight or nine years ago. Even that wouldn't have happened if it hadn't progressed to the point of my going to the emergency room. For a month I had been telling my doctor about pain and vomitting and getting told "there's nothing wrong with you" and a referral to a psychiatrist. My gall bladder finally got so inflamed and my system so backed up that when I went to the emergency room I ended up spending over a week in the hospital on close watch because my entire digestive tract had completely shut down all peristalsis and other digestive functions and I had to have two other surgeries/procedures in addition to the actual removal of my gall bladder because I was shutting down, turning orange, and in serious trouble.

Welcome to the happy world of medicaid. This is why I'm against socialized medicine in the U.S. because it will basically mean putting *everybody* on medicaid and I don't want others to have to experience the low level of health care I do.


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04 Nov 2010, 9:22 pm

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Welcome to the happy world of medicaid. This is why I'm against socialized medicine in the U.S. because it will basically mean putting *everybody* on medicaid and I don't want others to have to experience the low level of health care I do.


given a choice between medicaid and NO medical care whatsoever [my present financial condition] i would choose medicaid in a new york second.



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04 Nov 2010, 9:32 pm

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Welcome to the happy world of medicaid. This is why I'm against socialized medicine in the U.S. because it will basically mean putting *everybody* on medicaid and I don't want others to have to experience the low level of health care I do.


given a choice between medicaid and NO medical care whatsoever [my present financial condition] i would choose medicaid in a new york second.


I used to feel that way.


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04 Nov 2010, 9:35 pm

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Welcome to the happy world of medicaid. This is why I'm against socialized medicine in the U.S. because it will basically mean putting *everybody* on medicaid and I don't want others to have to experience the low level of health care I do.


given a choice between medicaid and NO medical care whatsoever [my present financial condition] i would choose medicaid in a new york second.


I used to feel that way.


i am curious, if you had no medicaid and were too poor to pay the exorbitant fees that private health insurance is notorious for charging, what would you do? for an old fert my age, they charge me more than i could ever hope to make, so all i have is catastrophic coverage which doesn't pay for any office visits, it is all i can pay for. i just hope my insurance doesn't pull any of that infamous crap about yanking my coverage just as i am lying on the ER gurney. this happens all the time.



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04 Nov 2010, 9:46 pm

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Welcome to the happy world of medicaid. This is why I'm against socialized medicine in the U.S. because it will basically mean putting *everybody* on medicaid and I don't want others to have to experience the low level of health care I do.


given a choice between medicaid and NO medical care whatsoever [my present financial condition] i would choose medicaid in a new york second.


I used to feel that way.


i am curious, if you had no medicaid and were too poor to pay the exorbitant fees that private health insurance is notorious for charging, what would you do? for an old fert my age, they charge me more than i could ever hope to make, so all i have is catastrophic coverage which doesn't pay for any office visits, it is all i can pay for. i just hope my insurance doesn't pull any of that infamous crap about yanking my coverage just as i am lying on the ER gurney. this happens all the time.


I lost medicaid for six months and got better medical treatment as an indigent than I did on medicaid. Then the government gave me back medicaid again and it's back to suckage.


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04 Nov 2010, 11:15 pm

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I lost medicaid for six months and got better medical treatment as an indigent than I did on medicaid. Then the government gave me back medicaid again and it's back to suckage.


my only experience at indigent care was in a san francisco ER, they made me wait for over 24 hours then told me they couldn't treat me, and booted me out of their ER. i had an ear infection which hurt like wang, and when i was able to get treatment elsewhere, i almost had a perforated ear drum. i should've sued the bastards back in SF.



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06 Nov 2010, 5:37 am

i was 246 pounds in march of this year when i started going to the gym. i went 4 days a week and did an hour and a half cardio workout every session. (was maybe a bit obsessive to begin with, but gradually reduced the cardio to an hour a session) about two months ago the gym instructor put me on a new programme of half an hour on the treadmill and a circuit of weights. i am now 163 pounds and am feeling fantastic,by bmi which to begin with was 32 to begin with is now 22.7, the middle of the healthy range. i go to the doctor monthly and speak regularly to the gym instructor as i know i can be obsessive and want to do this healthily. i have been told what im doing now is enough to keep the weight off. i do 1/2 hour on the treadmill 3 times a week along with my weight circuit, and i do two classes one day a week.

for fat burning i was told that you need to start jogging on the treadmill, as you can imagine, at the weight i was to begin with, i could only jog 4 a minute at a time without wanting to collapse with exhaustion, but i kept at it and made it a competition with myself, "i'll do better tomorrow". eventually it became less of a chore and actually felt energised after the workout. natural highs are great. i was able to come off my anti depressants which i had been taking for years without feeling the need to self harm, i jog now for 16 minutes of the half hour and power walk the remaining 14 minutes. rowing machine is another good fat burner, but i dont use that as i enjoy the tread mill more.

some people can diet alone and loose the weight that they need to, others need to exercise, and some need to do a bit of both depending on their metabolism and biological make up. i've been lucky in the respect that my diet is similar to what it was before going to the gym, i still have chocolate, dont eat many other snacks apart from yoghurt and fruit. and have cut down on fast food.

good luck with the weight loss,



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06 Nov 2010, 8:52 pm

way to go, hermione124 8)



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07 Nov 2010, 4:52 am

thanx. what is medicaid? is it like the british nhs where you dont pay for seeing a doctor? i think its absolutely disgusting that you are not getting the medical care you need simply because of the type of insurance(?) you may or may not have. is there not a system in place to help people in this position or is this medicaid it?



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07 Nov 2010, 5:46 am

In the U.S., senior citizens (65 and older) get medicare, which pays for some medical needs and not others. For example, many prescription medications are not covered.

And the poor and disabled get medicaid which pays for all medical needs but only allows certain procedures and certain medications. So medications are covered but some have restrictions, for example I can't take my diabetes medication because it makes me too ill and I can't try the time-release version (which is intended for people who become ill with the regular version) because medicaid only covers the regular version, not the time-release.

Medicaid will only cover diabetes test strips for type 1 diabetics, so that is another medical expense that comes out of my own pocket. To test as much as my doctor wants me to would cost me a minimum of $4/day ($120/month) which I can't afford so I don't test my blood sugar like I ought to. Medicaid also will not cover a breast reduction despite the fact that I'm so large it makes my hands go numb and hurts my back enough to limit my activity and they wlil not cover any treatment for my cystocele (fallen bladder) unless it falls so much that it is coming out of my vaginal opening, at which point they will cover surgery (which is generally ineffective and could be avoided if they would treat it now.)

Does the nhs have similar limitations on what a person can get or not?


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07 Nov 2010, 4:59 pm

most people need to pay for their prescriptions with the exception of children, people with long time disability and people without jobs. seeing a doctor or going to the hospital is free. cosmetic surgery can come under the nhs if the person is significantly psychologically or physically affected, but most people need to go private. in some parts of the country people are denied certain procedures and cancer drugs due to the cost involved, it has become a 'postcode lottery'

i feel that nobody should be denied the care they need. every human being is worth the same in my opinion and the way some people go without sickens me.



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07 Nov 2010, 8:05 pm

wow! I'm personally against cancer drugs, but the idea that a health-care system that is meant to serve all, universally, will decide that some get cancer drugs and some don't is horrible! And even worse if it's as you say and based on where a person lives. I could see withholding them if a cancer is so far progressed that there is no hope of help from the drugs, but withholding them because of where a person lives in unconscionable!


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08 Nov 2010, 12:30 am

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i feel that nobody should be denied the care they need. every human being is worth the same in my opinion and the way some people go without sickens me.


i don't know what country is your home, but here in america, the right-wing powers-that-be view all working-class recipients of social programs as "useless eaters" and "disposable workers" deserving only of the shove when our collective usefulness abates. that said, in this country it is largely up to the individual to lose their own weight, which conveniently for me is due to being unable to afford much food. that, and walking or biking several miles to the general store for most sundries, keeps me relatively slim despite my glacial metabolism. having a sloshy stomach from constantly drinking water in a semi-useful try at abating hunger pangs, is something i've had to get used to, as the lesser of two evils.



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08 Nov 2010, 2:14 am

For me, it's harder to lose weight on a low income.

When I have enough money, I mostly (out of personal taste preference) eat huge plates full of veggies and my weight goes down.

When I am impoverished, my food choices dwindle to things like ramen noodles at only $0.50 per meal but with plenty of wheat to trigger my allergies (which gives me heartburn and makes my weight balloon), plenty of sodium to get my blood pressure up, and 1400 calories per meal. Plus, since I'm deprived of vital nutrients, I get hungrier than normal and eat four or five meals per day on a food-like substance that carries 4200 calories for a day of just three meals! When my malnutrition really gets going and I'm up to five meals a day, that's 7000 calories per day.

Bear in mind that my body only needs 1800 calories and 3500 calories roughly (very roughly since there are all kinds of metabolic issues that come into play) translates to a gained pound. And, yes, when I'm eating only ramen I'm gaining 2-4 pounds per week. It's truly scary. But who can get by on just three packets of ramen per day? I know I become frightening and bordering on psychotic if I don't get enough to eat so just not eating or skipping meals or eating one packet of ramen three times a day is not an option. I can run like that for only a few hours before I start to edge toward deranged and non-functional.

Whereas when I have enough money to eat what I actually *enjoy* eating (instead of eating whatever I can get for two dollars because I have no money but I have to eat *something*), the pounds just fall off of me and I feel like I'm living in paradise, my body is so happy with all the good nutrients.

All of the above is why I usually end up spending more on food than I do on rent and living off loans and credit to do so.


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08 Nov 2010, 5:39 am

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But who can get by on just three packets of ramen per day?


at various times in my life, i've survived on that, and on a cheeseburger a day at other times. i used to be scarily skinny. i'm lucky my teeth and hair didn't all fall out.



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08 Nov 2010, 5:55 am

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But who can get by on just three packets of ramen per day?


at various times in my life, i've survived on that, and on a cheeseburger a day at other times. i used to be scarily skinny. i'm lucky my teeth and hair didn't all fall out.


I can't manage on that because it's not enough to fill me up so I start getting desperate and looking through dumpsters for more food. Plus, the worse my nutrition gets, the higher my hunger level gets because my body's not getting what it needs. That's why I get so fat on cheap foods like ramen -- they just ramp up my hunger over time.

Whereas if I fill my plate with steamed broccoli and a chopped cabbage and shredded carrot slaw, I'm not getting anywhere near as many calories as a packet of ramen but I am stuffed and happy for hours afterwards and feel great. But a plate of broccoli and slaw costs at least eight times as much as a half-plate of ramen. :-(


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