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29 Oct 2013, 2:27 am

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Well, there are probably at least several thousand active members on WrongPlanet, but only a small portion of them post in the Other Psychological Conditions subform as most are here purely to discuss Aspergers (posting rate is fairly slow in this subforum compared to many of the others), and then only a small portion out of the those posting in this subforum would post in the Bipolar/Aspergers sticky (as only a very small proportion of members would have both bipolar and aspergers). Plus not all members with bipolar/aspergers may be interested in participating in chat and support thread. If that makes sense.

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I am starting to "wonder" about the membership as if you look to the left of the page it says that the membership is 75,000 ( 75,000 exactly ? ) and it doesn't seem to change as it you'd expect so maybe that's just a made up figure picked from the skies ??

Ideally the counter should be an ever changing number to look realistic .



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29 Oct 2013, 2:34 am

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Well, there are probably at least several thousand active members on WrongPlanet, but only a small portion of them post in the Other Psychological Conditions subform as most are here purely to discuss Aspergers (posting rate is fairly slow in this subforum compared to many of the others), and then only a small portion out of the those posting in this subforum would post in the Bipolar/Aspergers sticky (as only a very small proportion of members would have both bipolar and aspergers). Plus not all members with bipolar/aspergers may be interested in participating in chat and support thread. If that makes sense.

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I am starting to "wonder" about the membership as if you look to the left of the page it says that the membership is 75,000 ( 75,000 exactly ? ) and it doesn't seem to change as it you'd expect so maybe that's just a made up figure picked from the skies ??

Ideally the counter should be an ever changing number to look realistic .


It used to be but then I think it may have reached its limit. Would you like to suggest a new colour scheme too?


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29 Oct 2013, 5:24 am

So, I've been creative on Facebook tonight

Latest status update:

"How to make a sociopath in 5 simple steps:

1) Deprive them of any pleasure.

2) Take complete control of their decision making.

3) Tell them what is really going on with them and ignore anything they say to counter this.

4) Make them feel like everything about who they are is wrong and assume it can be trained out of them.

5) Laugh at them when they finally break down and become verbally abusive.

Enjoy your little creation. Your hard to read cold-blooded killer. "

Needless to say I'm not doing ok tonight.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying I'm going to become a cold-blooded serial killing sociopath. At worst I think I'll just end up with conduct disorder.


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29 Oct 2013, 2:10 pm

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Zincubus wrote:
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Well, there are probably at least several thousand active members on WrongPlanet, but only a small portion of them post in the Other Psychological Conditions subform as most are here purely to discuss Aspergers (posting rate is fairly slow in this subforum compared to many of the others), and then only a small portion out of the those posting in this subforum would post in the Bipolar/Aspergers sticky (as only a very small proportion of members would have both bipolar and aspergers). Plus not all members with bipolar/aspergers may be interested in participating in chat and support thread. If that makes sense.

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I am starting to "wonder" about the membership as if you look to the left of the page it says that the membership is 75,000 ( 75,000 exactly ? ) and it doesn't seem to change as it you'd expect so maybe that's just a made up figure picked from the skies ??

Ideally the counter should be an ever changing number to look realistic .


It used to be but then I think it may have reached its limit. Would you like to suggest a new colour scheme too?


I'm sure they have counters going passed 75,000 tbh :)

As to the colour scheme - Yes I would make drastic changes.
The place just looks tired and dated inky humble opinion .

I'd liven things up for sure ...


I'd add a column showing how many views EACH thread has had then at least you know that someone has looked at your thread even if they don't post a reply - it reassuring I can promise you.

ALSO , why are we being bombarded with all these crazy banner adverts jumping all over the place ! !! !! !???? I

I realise that this could only apply to iPad / iPhone users but there are a fair few of us in here .....



Also why on earth are dyslexics /Aspergers / autistics expected to read / write messages / posts on a pure white background ?

Many of us see 'streams' between words and sentences . Ideally the notepad ( the place where we construct a post ) section should be a panel colour or better still light grey .



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29 Oct 2013, 11:44 pm

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Also why on earth are dyslexics /Aspergers / autistics expected to read / write messages / posts on a pure white background ?

Many of us see 'streams' between words and sentences . Ideally the notepad ( the place where we construct a post ) section should be a panel colour or better still light grey .


It's actually possible to set your browser's internal style sheet to turn the white into grey or whatever other color you'd prefer.
The method varies from browser to browser, but you should be able to look it up.

Hope that helps.



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30 Oct 2013, 12:21 am

I. Can't. Take. This. Much. Longer....

I actually feel like I need a hug and I don't like to be touched.

I don't even know if I should believe my self or other people.

I've hardly eaten anything today. Don't know when I will.

Med meds meds meds. Someone put me on meds.


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30 Oct 2013, 12:57 am

I am just not doing well.

The 21st of December...is coming up in a few months and my mind is in overload mode. I can't take this at all. I've managed to completely screw up my life and I'm sick of these mood swings, all the time. I'm sick of my psychiatrist, who's just being useless with my meds and mucking around with them. I'm sick of it all. And I just want it over. I'm sick of hearing other peoples thoughts.

So I'm wanting it over. And not really caring either way.

And please do not give me the "Tell your pdoc" or "what will others think" cliched crap. If I wanted that, I'd be posting on Yahoo Answers. I guess I just...wanted to get it out. That I'm getting tired of mood swings and tired of the people who dictate that I have to survive and can cope with this, who have no clue what a mood swing is. Who've never had a mood swing like I have. Who've never heard voices. And who seem to be in control of there brains.

It's not simply depression that is making me suicidal. No, I'm just...tired of living like this. And realizing how things probably won't get better.

(And as to another post, I'm on and off a lot depending on how unwell I am at the time. I REALLY rapid cycle, (more than four in a month sometimes) I only ever really post in BTSP. I thought I had an ASD (and so did a lot of the people I knew) which was why I signed up for this place. My psychologist is telling me it's not AS, and that it is in fact, a Borderline Personality.)

(And if I don't reply...sometimes when I log in, I simply do not have the energy to give out support and comfort, or advise.)

(They could also change the color scheme of this place_ :D )



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30 Oct 2013, 1:21 am

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I am just not doing well.

The 21st of December...is coming up in a few months and my mind is in overload mode. I can't take this at all. I've managed to completely screw up my life and I'm sick of these mood swings, all the time. I'm sick of my psychiatrist, who's just being useless with my meds and mucking around with them. I'm sick of it all. And I just want it over. I'm sick of hearing other peoples thoughts.

So I'm wanting it over. And not really caring either way.

And please do not give me the "Tell your pdoc" or "what will others think" cliched crap. If I wanted that, I'd be posting on Yahoo Answers. I guess I just...wanted to get it out. That I'm getting tired of mood swings and tired of the people who dictate that I have to survive and can cope with this, who have no clue what a mood swing is. Who've never had a mood swing like I have. Who've never heard voices. And who seem to be in control of there brains.

It's not simply depression that is making me suicidal. No, I'm just...tired of living like this. And realizing how things probably won't get better.

(And as to another post, I'm on and off a lot depending on how unwell I am at the time. I REALLY rapid cycle, (more than four in a month sometimes) I only ever really post in BTSP. I thought I had an ASD (and so did a lot of the people I knew) which was why I signed up for this place. My psychologist is telling me it's not AS, and that it is in fact, a Borderline Personality.)

(And if I don't reply...sometimes when I log in, I simply do not have the energy to give out support and comfort, or advise.)

(They could also change the color scheme of this place_ :D )


You won't hear any cliched crap from me. I've been told it enough. I don't really know what to say. I kind of doubt I can get much better. I rapid cycle over hours usually. Sometimes minutes and seconds - thank God those are pretty rare once a month type of things, or if I consume a lot of alcohol.

I only rarely hear voices and I can't understand them but I do think people on the streets are talking about me.

Really sorry to hear meds aren't working for you. I'm not on any meds as you can tell by many of my posts.

I just feel like, this is who we are, and we'll never get better. People are being so stupidly positive with me. They think you find a good doctor and get on meds and everything is suddenly better. It was meds that landed me here. Ritalin has destroyed my life. The meds before that messed me up as well.

I'm not very good at consoling. Well, I'm pretty sure I'm autistic.

I hope this mood passes for you.


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30 Oct 2013, 3:03 am

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I thought I had an ASD (and so did a lot of the people I knew) which was why I signed up for this place. My psychologist is telling me it's not AS, and that it is in fact, a Borderline Personality.)


Why does your psychiatrist think it's BPD?

Personally, if I would have another opinion than my psychiatrist, I would propably get a second opinion. I once went through a 3 year time being miss-dx. Maybe you have also symptoms of both...

I found that quote:
"From my own extensive clinical experience and reading autobiographies, women who have Asperger's syndrome can be extremely sensitive to the emotional atmosphere at a social gathering. There is an almost 'sixth sense' for feelings within others of antagonism, fear and despair in group situations. When a girl with Asperger's syndrome who has emotional sensitivity to the negative moods of others has also been bullied and teased by peers and rejected or 'betrayed' by friends, there can be a suggestion of the characteristics of Borderline Personality Disorder. Being a 'Tom Boy' in childhood, not being interested in fashion and femininity, make up and perfumes, as well as appreciating the logic of the male brain can lead to concerns regarding sexuality and gender identity. Social immaturity and naivety can also lead to vulnerability to sexual predators and a risk of sexual assault."

http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/index.php ... -aspergers


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30 Oct 2013, 3:10 am

What are all the mood disorders out there guys?

My mood swings are really interfering with my life, I am seeking professional help, just waiting for an appointment



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30 Oct 2013, 3:33 am

Raziel wrote:
Otherside wrote:
I thought I had an ASD (and so did a lot of the people I knew) which was why I signed up for this place. My psychologist is telling me it's not AS, and that it is in fact, a Borderline Personality.)


Why does your psychiatrist think it's BPD?

Personally, if I would have another opinion than my psychiatrist, I would propably get a second opinion. I once went through a 3 year time being miss-dx. Maybe you have also symptoms of both...

I found that quote:
"From my own extensive clinical experience and reading autobiographies, women who have Asperger's syndrome can be extremely sensitive to the emotional atmosphere at a social gathering. There is an almost 'sixth sense' for feelings within others of antagonism, fear and despair in group situations. When a girl with Asperger's syndrome who has emotional sensitivity to the negative moods of others has also been bullied and teased by peers and rejected or 'betrayed' by friends, there can be a suggestion of the characteristics of Borderline Personality Disorder. Being a 'Tom Boy' in childhood, not being interested in fashion and femininity, make up and perfumes, as well as appreciating the logic of the male brain can lead to concerns regarding sexuality and gender identity. Social immaturity and naivety can also lead to vulnerability to sexual predators and a risk of sexual assault."

http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/index.php ... -aspergers


He thinks I'm able to communicate well enough and pick up on emotions for it not to be AS, as well as a couple of things that happened to me at a young age which could well have triggered it. Of course, I could simply have learnt how to communicate better and how to pick up on emotions. I was definately NOT able to communicate throughout a lot of my childhood, and I've had to force myself to be comfortable with eye contact. As well as my slightly odd interests (One of which being payday loans, which is a bit of an odd interest to have)



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30 Oct 2013, 3:41 am

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Otherside wrote:
I am just not doing well.

The 21st of December...is coming up in a few months and my mind is in overload mode. I can't take this at all. I've managed to completely screw up my life and I'm sick of these mood swings, all the time. I'm sick of my psychiatrist, who's just being useless with my meds and mucking around with them. I'm sick of it all. And I just want it over. I'm sick of hearing other peoples thoughts.

So I'm wanting it over. And not really caring either way.

And please do not give me the "Tell your pdoc" or "what will others think" cliched crap. If I wanted that, I'd be posting on Yahoo Answers. I guess I just...wanted to get it out. That I'm getting tired of mood swings and tired of the people who dictate that I have to survive and can cope with this, who have no clue what a mood swing is. Who've never had a mood swing like I have. Who've never heard voices. And who seem to be in control of there brains.

It's not simply depression that is making me suicidal. No, I'm just...tired of living like this. And realizing how things probably won't get better.

(And as to another post, I'm on and off a lot depending on how unwell I am at the time. I REALLY rapid cycle, (more than four in a month sometimes) I only ever really post in BTSP. I thought I had an ASD (and so did a lot of the people I knew) which was why I signed up for this place. My psychologist is telling me it's not AS, and that it is in fact, a Borderline Personality.)

(And if I don't reply...sometimes when I log in, I simply do not have the energy to give out support and comfort, or advise.)

(They could also change the color scheme of this place_ :D )


You won't hear any cliched crap from me. I've been told it enough. I don't really know what to say. I kind of doubt I can get much better. I rapid cycle over hours usually. Sometimes minutes and seconds - thank God those are pretty rare once a month type of things, or if I consume a lot of alcohol.

I only rarely hear voices and I can't understand them but I do think people on the streets are talking about me.

Really sorry to hear meds aren't working for you. I'm not on any meds as you can tell by many of my posts.

I just feel like, this is who we are, and we'll never get better. People are being so stupidly positive with me. They think you find a good doctor and get on meds and everything is suddenly better. It was meds that landed me here. Ritalin has destroyed my life. The meds before that messed me up as well.

I'm not very good at consoling. Well, I'm pretty sure I'm autistic.

I hope this mood passes for you.


I'm not exactly great at consoling either. Online or in real life. Especially in real life.

I rapid cycle over days. Or did, anyway. My moods have been a bit chaotic since they put me on antidepressants. Which can be a bit dangerous to take if you have bipolar. They make a lot of people manic. They just seemed to make me rapid cycle even faster...like you, over hours rather than days. That was horrible.

Perphaps one day we'll get some sort of stability in life. Sadly, for us people with bipolar, it's not as simple as getting a good doctor and taking meds. Or for many mental illnesses, really. The reality is that it's harder than that. And actually takes effort. Which in a depressive episode, I don't have much of, and sometimes, don't even care about recovering.



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30 Oct 2013, 3:48 am

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What are all the mood disorders out there guys?

My mood swings are really interfering with my life, I am seeking professional help, just waiting for an appointment


The various bipolar disorders
-Bipolar 1 (Major depressive episodes and full blown mania)
-Bipolar 2 (Hypomania instead of mania.)
-Cyclothymia (A milder version of bipolar, the depressive episodes aren't full blown, major depressive episodes, and the manias are hypomanias)

Seasonal Affective Disorder

And then the depressive disorders
Major Depressive Disorder
Atypical Depression (Less severe that major depression)
Melancholic Depression
Pscyhotic Major Depressive (Depression with psychosis)
Catatonic Depression (The person who's depressed doesn't exactly...well, do anything really)
Postpartum Depression (After giving birth)
Dysthymia
Double Depression (Dsythymia with major depressive episodes)
Recurrant Brief Depression



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30 Oct 2013, 5:13 am

Sorry I can't really be of help for any of you guys :(

My mood is good at the moment but then I've got a few deals ( snake trader ) going on and they keep me from worrying about everything .

My moods are usually down and I worry constantly about one thing or another and every so often I get "hit" a real nice place where I fel happy and optimistic ... They don't seem to last very long sady .

I am completely clean though . No drugs / Meds / alcohol not even over the counter painkillers .

My only "vice" is two cups of tea per day .... I like to live on the edge :)

I'd say you should all dramatically reduce all drink and drug intakes to a minimum and then you know that it's you and your body's problem and not all the fricken poisons ( Meds / drugs / alcohol ) you're putting in your bodies ! !!

It's not rocket science , guys ! !

Also listen to happy , uptempo music whenever possible .... it can do amazing things to your mood and mentality ! !! !!



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30 Oct 2013, 5:36 am

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The various bipolar disorders
-Bipolar 1 (Major depressive episodes and full blown mania)
-Bipolar 2 (Hypomania instead of mania.)
-Cyclothymia (A milder version of bipolar, the depressive episodes aren't full blown, major depressive episodes, and the manias are hypomanias)

Seasonal Affective Disorder

And then the depressive disorders
Major Depressive Disorder
Atypical Depression (Less severe that major depression)
Melancholic Depression
Pscyhotic Major Depressive (Depression with psychosis)
Catatonic Depression (The person who's depressed doesn't exactly...well, do anything really)
Postpartum Depression (After giving birth)
Dysthymia
Double Depression (Dsythymia with major depressive episodes)
Recurrant Brief Depression


Bipolar 2 sounds like exactly what I am experiencing, to have bipolar you don't have to be so bad you need hospitalisation and absolutely can't function?
I mean there would be people with more mild and more severe cases wouldn't there be?



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30 Oct 2013, 6:17 am

DeviousDani wrote:
Otherside wrote:
The various bipolar disorders
-Bipolar 1 (Major depressive episodes and full blown mania)
-Bipolar 2 (Hypomania instead of mania.)
-Cyclothymia (A milder version of bipolar, the depressive episodes aren't full blown, major depressive episodes, and the manias are hypomanias)

Seasonal Affective Disorder

And then the depressive disorders
Major Depressive Disorder
Atypical Depression (Less severe that major depression)
Melancholic Depression
Pscyhotic Major Depressive (Depression with psychosis)
Catatonic Depression (The person who's depressed doesn't exactly...well, do anything really)
Postpartum Depression (After giving birth)
Dysthymia
Double Depression (Dsythymia with major depressive episodes)
Recurrant Brief Depression


Bipolar 2 sounds like exactly what I am experiencing, to have bipolar you don't have to be so bad you need hospitalisation and absolutely can't function?
I mean there would be people with more mild and more severe cases wouldn't there be?


Bipolar 1 is the severe, full blown bipolar, and generally, someone who is having a manic episode is going to be hospitalized (Mania being such as the person suddenly believing they are Gods prophet, suddenly sell there house to fund a trip to Bolivia, quit there job on an impulse convinced they're going to become the next rock star). Hypomania won't generally lead to being hospitalized (Although, a depressive episode, if the mental health services think you're a risk to yourself, same as with any illness). Hypomania is as severe as mania, and generally, we won't be so out of control that we sell our houses and run off to foreign countries.

And everyone who has bipolar is different. No two cases are the same. There will always be people who are worse than you, and who, as you say, absolutely cannot function in day to day life, and there will be people who have milder cases.