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21 Sep 2012, 5:47 pm

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I went to a new shrink today and he sayed I have too many stressors at the moment to be sure that I have Bipolar, but he has this suspicion and we have to wait and see until I have less stressors.

So now I don't know more than before, but at least I know that it is possible and I have a new shrink now that I come along with, not like my old shrink. 8O
So, to be 100% sure we have to wait until I have less stressors and he just diagnosed me depressions at the moment and I shall come back in 4 weeks. :D


If you are bipolar, they'll probably just change your meds as needed (give you a mood stabilizer and antidepressant together). For me, the mood stabilizer does alleviate manic episodes. Unfortunately, the antidepressants don't seem to be working. :|



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25 Sep 2012, 12:20 am

Pain of mind. I'm in a constant state of pain in my very own mind from these contrasts of mental illness pulling and shedding myself. My focus is constantly depleting. As i write this it seems like a struggle, and writing is one of my main interests. I hate school, i hate my house, i hate this life,but im persevering. I just cant explain anything right now.



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25 Sep 2012, 1:21 am

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Pain of mind. I'm in a constant state of pain in my very own mind from these contrasts of mental illness pulling and shedding myself. My focus is constantly depleting. As i write this it seems like a struggle, and writing is one of my main interests. I hate school, i hate my house, i hate this life,but im persevering. I just cant explain anything right now.


I felt you explained it very well. That's just how i often feel - like the contrast of the mental illnesses divides my brain.


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01 Oct 2012, 5:05 pm

Hello, I was diagnosed with having AS this year, and did online tests for bi-polar, it said i most probably had it. I had a few episodes where i ran away from my workplace and where i lived, and went to a different country. would these episodes count as manic episodes? or symptoms of Aspergers?

it would be great if anyone could advise me.

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03 Oct 2012, 5:06 pm

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Hello, I was diagnosed with having AS this year, and did online tests for bi-polar, it said i most probably had it. I had a few episodes where i ran away from my workplace and where i lived, and went to a different country. would these episodes count as manic episodes? or symptoms of Aspergers?

it would be great if anyone could advise me.

thanks alot.


you'd have to elaborate



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03 Oct 2012, 6:23 pm

I just have elaborated, what more is there to say? I dont want to give too many personal info, but you can make a picture of my behaviour.


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04 Oct 2012, 7:41 pm

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I just have elaborated, what more is there to say? I dont want to give too many personal info, but you can make a picture of my behaviour.


We would like to help you but that is truly very little information and definitely not enough to make a diagnostic guess by. I understand about not wanting to share personal info publically, would you perhaps like to PM one of us in private to describe the episode when you ran away in more detail? People can and do suddenly go places like that in the midst of manic episodes but there are other reasons why it can happen also, it depends on what other emotional and physiological symptoms you were experiencing at the time, and what your reasoning was - why did you choose to run away? Was it a split second decision or something you have been planning to do for a long time?


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04 Oct 2012, 8:02 pm

thanx.
ok i will elaborate.
I worked abroad and was beginnning to cry sponataneously when i had the chance to relax at the beach. this had been going on for a few times, then suddenly i began to withdraw from socialising after work, someone asked what was wrong with me, but i couldn't say that there was anything wrong.
I was teaching golf and then one day i began to not contact work while they were expecting me back. i began to develop a phobia of contacting them, a few days later i turned up and got told off.
then week later i started drinking to relax and destress myself,one morning i decided to leave everything and just go, no goodbyes nothing.
i took next plane to england and avoided contact altogether.

this behavior caused me financial problems and emotional ones, a few weeks later i was referred to a clinic for a assessment for Autism, it was Aspergers. since then i feel alot better but still need assessment for Bi-polar, as test i did online,said i most probably had it.

I would appreciate any advice given,thanks.


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04 Oct 2012, 8:51 pm

davidgolfpro wrote:
thanx.
ok i will elaborate.
I worked abroad and was beginnning to cry sponataneously when i had the chance to relax at the beach. this had been going on for a few times, then suddenly i began to withdraw from socialising after work, someone asked what was wrong with me, but i couldn't say that there was anything wrong.
I was teaching golf and then one day i began to not contact work while they were expecting me back. i began to develop a phobia of contacting them, a few days later i turned up and got told off.
then week later i started drinking to relax and destress myself,one morning i decided to leave everything and just go, no goodbyes nothing.
i took next plane to england and avoided contact altogether.

this behavior caused me financial problems and emotional ones, a few weeks later i was referred to a clinic for a assessment for Autism, it was Aspergers. since then i feel alot better but still need assessment for Bi-polar, as test i did online,said i most probably had it.

I would appreciate any advice given,thanks.


Again it's still very hard to tell but from what you've said it sounds more like you possibly experienced depression and social anxiety, which can come with having Autism, and culminated in you deciding to leave because you'd had enough of everything and didn't want to communicate with anyone. The spontaneous crying does sound a lot like depression so you should definitely seek treatment if that's the case, although sometimes social pressure can cause an autistic person to experience a meltdown or shutdown due to mental overload - it's possible you may have experienced this.

What sort of emotions were you feeling when you left? Did you feel sad, apathetic, fed up, anxious? The best way to determine whether you have bipolar or not is to figure out if you've ever experienced a manic or hypomanic episode. This is the diagnostic criteria for a manic episode (which I have also posted earlier in the thread):

A. A distinct period of abnormally and persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood, lasting at least 1 week (or any duration if hospitalization is necessary).

B. During the period of mood disturbance, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:

(1) inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
(2) decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
(3) more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
(4) flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
(5) distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
(6) increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
(7) excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., engaging in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)


If you left the country due to a manic episode then you would have been feeling a combination of the above symptoms when you did it.


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06 Oct 2012, 9:23 pm

I was diagnosed bipolar in 2008. So.... I am currently in a manic episode. I think it started a week ago, but maybe earlier. My mood and energy just ramped up and up and I was writing so much music, I was working on this string quartet that just kept getting more and more complicated until now it's so convoluted that a human violinist could never play it. I haven't slept more than a few hours here and there since last Sunday. I am usually pretty shy and keep to myself but this past week I talked to ALL my classmates at university, hung out with some of them, and now they think I'm hilarious and should start a twitter. For my orchestration class I was supposed to arrange a baroque string quartet into an arrangement for modern string orchestra but all the professor expected us to do was add a second violin part and choose which part to double... well, I rewrote the entire piece and made it better. Because of course I'm better than Handel, lol. Oh, and I got a tattoo. :lol:

Somewhere around Thursday/yesterday I started getting this idea that maybe there was something special about the music interval perfect fifth. ALL of the music I've been listening to lately has either a perfect fifth or a running fifth sequence and I started thinking maybe there was some secret about the fifth and if I could just figure it out I would crack the code and be able to write a song that will revolutionize music. I've been up at night trying to figure this out.

Well, I'm not so far gone that I don't realize that maybe that sounds a little crazy, but yesterday I felt absolutely like I was going to explode into a million pieces because my body just couldn't contain how much energy I had so I tried to call my psychiatrist (should have done that earlier) but it's Thanksgiving weekend in Canada so she was away until Tuesday. By the evening I was sure I was going to go insane before Tuesday so I went to the hospital because they have a psych emerg and I figured the doctor would know which meds to tweak until I could see my psychiatrist on Tuesday.

I couldn't sit down at the hospital. I paced and wrote music on manuscript paper for the entire 5 hour wait. The psych doc talked to me for a while and told me I was manic. I mentioned the perfect fifth thing, because especially while I was in the hospital I was starting to become convinced that once I figured out the secret of the fifth I could heal all these sick people BUT I AM STILL AWARE THAT'S CRAZY and he told me it was just the mania. He gave me sleeping pills and told me to come back if it got worse.

I went to the pharmacy today to fill the prescription for sleeping pills and the pharmacist talked to me for 5 minutes and could tell I was manic. When I first walked in he asked my medical history so I mentioned bipolar, and he said "Have you ever had a full manic episode?" And I said yes. Then he looked at me for a minute and said "Um... are you having one now?" and I was like HAHA YOU CAUGHT ME. I did not realize I was so obviously manic that a PHARMACIST could tell. I wonder what my classmates think.

I'm slightly less crazy tonight, I'm hoping the extra meds will help until I can see my psychiatrist. I've banned myself from writing music because I'm trying NOT to get sucked into the perfect fifth obsession. It's so SEDUCTIVE to feel like YOU PERSONALLY have the answer to life.

So hi bipolar support thread. How are the rest of you?


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07 Oct 2012, 7:23 pm

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I was diagnosed bipolar in 2008. So.... I am currently in a manic episode. I think it started a week ago, but maybe earlier. My mood and energy just ramped up and up and I was writing so much music, I was working on this string quartet that just kept getting more and more complicated until now it's so convoluted that a human violinist could never play it. I haven't slept more than a few hours here and there since last Sunday. I am usually pretty shy and keep to myself but this past week I talked to ALL my classmates at university, hung out with some of them, and now they think I'm hilarious and should start a twitter. For my orchestration class I was supposed to arrange a baroque string quartet into an arrangement for modern string orchestra but all the professor expected us to do was add a second violin part and choose which part to double... well, I rewrote the entire piece and made it better. Because of course I'm better than Handel, lol. Oh, and I got a tattoo. :lol:

Somewhere around Thursday/yesterday I started getting this idea that maybe there was something special about the music interval perfect fifth. ALL of the music I've been listening to lately has either a perfect fifth or a running fifth sequence and I started thinking maybe there was some secret about the fifth and if I could just figure it out I would crack the code and be able to write a song that will revolutionize music. I've been up at night trying to figure this out.

Well, I'm not so far gone that I don't realize that maybe that sounds a little crazy, but yesterday I felt absolutely like I was going to explode into a million pieces because my body just couldn't contain how much energy I had so I tried to call my psychiatrist (should have done that earlier) but it's Thanksgiving weekend in Canada so she was away until Tuesday. By the evening I was sure I was going to go insane before Tuesday so I went to the hospital because they have a psych emerg and I figured the doctor would know which meds to tweak until I could see my psychiatrist on Tuesday.

I couldn't sit down at the hospital. I paced and wrote music on manuscript paper for the entire 5 hour wait. The psych doc talked to me for a while and told me I was manic. I mentioned the perfect fifth thing, because especially while I was in the hospital I was starting to become convinced that once I figured out the secret of the fifth I could heal all these sick people BUT I AM STILL AWARE THAT'S CRAZY and he told me it was just the mania. He gave me sleeping pills and told me to come back if it got worse.

I went to the pharmacy today to fill the prescription for sleeping pills and the pharmacist talked to me for 5 minutes and could tell I was manic. When I first walked in he asked my medical history so I mentioned bipolar, and he said "Have you ever had a full manic episode?" And I said yes. Then he looked at me for a minute and said "Um... are you having one now?" and I was like HAHA YOU CAUGHT ME. I did not realize I was so obviously manic that a PHARMACIST could tell. I wonder what my classmates think.

I'm slightly less crazy tonight, I'm hoping the extra meds will help until I can see my psychiatrist. I've banned myself from writing music because I'm trying NOT to get sucked into the perfect fifth obsession. It's so SEDUCTIVE to feel like YOU PERSONALLY have the answer to life.

So hi bipolar support thread. How are the rest of you?


Haha oh wow I can relate. I'm a musician too and I've always had a bit of an obsession with perfect 5ths. Anyway, it definitely sounds like you're manic - are you on mood stabilizers??? If you aren't you sure as hell should be. It's interesting that you're so aware of what's going on, it's my personal belief this could be unique to the Aspergers/Bipolar combination as heaps of us seem to be the same, including me - even in really extreme swings I always know what's happening to me and that my thoughts are crazy.

Since I'm a super rapid cycler I don't stay up long enough to go that high normally (although I do get ideas into my head like I want to get a giant tattoo, but it only lasts a few hours before I swing the other way so not enough time to do anything serious) but when I've been on the wrong med combination before and had that feeling like you're about to explode with the amount of energy in your body. When this happens do you find you start compulsively moving or stimming, like your fingers start tapping at this extreme rate or you start hitting yourself or swinging your arms or something? I find that's what happens to me and if I let myself engage in it it escalates to a full blown fit. If you do get that extreme energy bursting out of your skin feeling (yeah, it is terrifying, I've called my psyc and prepared for hospitalization in the past when this has happened) my advice to you (from personal experience of what works and what doesn't) is to lie down somewhere and try and be as still as possible. It's a good idea to try and distract yourself or basically numb your brain by watching TV (don't do any activities that encourage the manic behaviour). If I do this it tends to go away faster and I often can avoid having a full blown fit. The absolute worst thing you can do is to try and exercise or move to shake it off.


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07 Oct 2012, 9:05 pm

^^^^^

I hope you get better soon I can relate to much of what you write , are you up for a holiday :wink: I ended up in Switzerland , now I may go their sane this time 8)


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10 Oct 2012, 9:08 am

My boyfriend is suffering from his bipolar disorder now: Severe depression. His psychiatrist will be prescribing him electroconvulsive therapy. Do any of you have experience with that, and if so, could you please tell if it worked for you, what it did?



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11 Oct 2012, 5:46 pm

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My boyfriend is suffering from his bipolar disorder now: Severe depression. His psychiatrist will be prescribing him electroconvulsive therapy. Do any of you have experience with that, and if so, could you please tell if it worked for you, what it did?


If there would be any other option, I wouldn't do it.
If there is non and I suffer too much, I would to it.

The effect EKT doesn't last forever and there is no garantiue that it works in the first place and it can have neurological side effects, like short term or long lasting problems with the memory and so on.

I also suffered once that much, that I thought there is no other way out than EKT, so I understand the presure, but I'm glad that I didn't do it in the end.


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My boyfriend is suffering from his bipolar disorder now: Severe depression. His psychiatrist will be prescribing him electroconvulsive therapy. Do any of you have experience with that, and if so, could you please tell if it worked for you, what it did?


I know two people who've had it and both say it was painless and really helpful to them.


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Haha oh wow I can relate. I'm a musician too and I've always had a bit of an obsession with perfect 5ths. Anyway, it definitely sounds like you're manic - are you on mood stabilizers??? If you aren't you sure as hell should be. It's interesting that you're so aware of what's going on, it's my personal belief this could be unique to the Aspergers/Bipolar combination as heaps of us seem to be the same, including me - even in really extreme swings I always know what's happening to me and that my thoughts are crazy.


I'm not on mood stabilizers, but my psychiatrist is using Seroquel as a mood stabilizer/antidepressant, and I'm on Risperidone as an antipsychotic.

I'm not manic anymore, and I've avoided crashing into depression so far, but I MISS the mania so much. I'm doing dumb things like drinking energy drinks and staying up until 3 AM trying to get it back.

I miss feeling all the feelings, and the confidence, and the euphoria, and the energy.

The WORST part about being so self aware that you still know what's going on is that doctors never believe how bad it is.


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