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02 Mar 2012, 2:23 pm

I have already taken the step of reporting this to the FBI. I have to scream out publicly until this is taken seriously.

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This is a touchy situation because Autism could be a real disability that could happen to a child that may actually have sane and genuinely loving parents.


I am making an open complaint about child abuse. This is a serious report of child abuse. I have reported this to the authorities and still this is not being taken seriously. I have to make a public report hoping the media or someone takes notice so that something is done about this problem.

I have to make a report about a group of parents that put on an elaborate act to pretend they are helping their child. But in fact they are doing a lot of harm. It would be much better if they did nothing at all.

Why would a parent put in so much energy to help their child? But every action they take is actually counterproductive, and the end result is actually harming their child.

Who could be that crazy. A psychopath IS that crazy.

Munchausen's Syndrome By Proxy is defined by when a parent invokes physical harm to the child in order to get a response of attention from doctors.

The parents I am complaining about are invoking psychological harm on their child. And then the resulting psychological damage gives the parent a goal to help that child.

Munchausen's Syndrome By Proxy is very hard to prove when the parent inflicts physical harm on the child and a physical illness results. Even when there is physical evidence, most people cannot conceive that it is possible for a parent to intentually harm their child and create a situation where the parent wants to go through a charade to help the child. I am trying to address a crime that has no physical evidence. I am trying to address a situation where the parent psychologically damages the child and then goes through the whole routine to act like they want to help the child. Without any physical evidence, any attempt to try to address this sounds nuts. This is happening.

I have to bring to light a situation when a parent is so crazy, they are inflicting emotional and psychological abuse on a child. And then the parent thrives on the attention to try to cure the child.

I am talking about emotional trauma that is so over the top intense, that the child is so severely affected that it appears to be a developmental disability. And no one is suspecting how the psychological abuse from the parent is affecting the child.

A psychopath is a master at pretending to be sane. Behind the scenes there is absolute craziness. A psychopath can be so psychologically abusive to their child. The PTSD from the abuse is being completely overlooked. The child is so severely emotionally traumatized. The psychological harm is so traumatic that it appears to be more closely paralleled to being a developmental disability.

I have to talk about the kind of bullying when it is the parent that bullies their own child. More specifically it is about when a parent bullies an Autistic child. When the abuse results with PTSD, the Autism eclipses everything and the Autistic child abuse victim does not get any of the protection that a child abuse victim is supposed to get. This has to be investigated.



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02 Mar 2012, 2:38 pm

Did you report this general statement or did you give specific names? If it was general without names, what did you expect FBI to do?



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02 Mar 2012, 3:09 pm

I have to travel a long distance to get to an Asperger group. I want a local support group. I reported an organization local to me called the ARCH, in Allentown, PA. This organization is ignoring Autistic adults and the need for a support group.

I reported an existing Asperger support group that claims to be for parents and is ignoring the need of a support group that is actually for Autistics and Aspergians. This Asperger support group meets at St. Luke's Hospital in Bethlehem/Fountain Hill, PA

An exact quote from an Autism speaks ad. "my family is affected by Autism" Parents inflict intense psychological abuse on the child. Munchausen by Proxy is happening without the evidence of a physical injury. Parents, most typically the mothers, inflict this abuse. The effects of this abuse manifests. Now look at that exact literal quote above. The parents and family want all of the attention and sympathy.



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02 Mar 2012, 4:59 pm

I hate to have to tell you but I suspect that the FBI will not act on this, you will need hard evidence to get anything to happen. I also think that the FBI is not the best place to complain to. What about the state child protection organisation ?


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02 Mar 2012, 5:08 pm

The state child protection agency isn't taking this seriously. That's why I have to report this to the FBI. My very first report to the FBI on this subject was in May 2009. Then in November 2009 I get a visit from the FBI. Very weird.



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02 Mar 2012, 9:21 pm

I admire your courage, but please be careful. If these parents are as bad as you say they are, they will masterfully turn the situation against you and you will be the one locked behind bars. No joke.

Can you be more specific about the types of emotional abuse? I would be very very careful unless you have very hard evidence. If there are no scars, no videos, no pictures, or anything of that nature, you have no case.

Also, keep in mind, in most countries, even the US, emotional abuse is not taken very seriously. You may want to be speak to a person experienced with child abuse to get better advice. I can't tell you what specific courses of action to take and frankly I am a little concerned for your well being.



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02 Mar 2012, 9:33 pm

I'm not sure but if you're suggesting that psychological abuse causes autism, that isn't so. You sound a little bit like a hysterical person over this situation. If you want to help, it would be good to speak rationally and give the facts as plainly as possible to someone locally who would be better able to help with the situation.



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02 Mar 2012, 11:57 pm

Okay, I reread your post again. You say you need to make a complaint against a "group of parents?" Are you talking about the autism movement as a whole or are you talking about one specific family or are you talking about one specific autism group? Your post is a little vague and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what you are trying to say.

Sorry, I just think this needs some clarification, because as mentioned, it might be taken the wrong way.

I am aware that Munschausen by proxy is a real disorder, but I think we need some more details here.



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03 Mar 2012, 3:40 am

mycats wrote:
I have to travel a long distance to get to an Asperger group. I want a local support group. I reported an organization local to me called the ARCH, in Allentown, PA. This organization is ignoring Autistic adults and the need for a support group.

I reported an existing Asperger support group that claims to be for parents and is ignoring the need of a support group that is actually for Autistics and Aspergians. This Asperger support group meets at St. Luke's Hospital in Bethlehem/Fountain Hill, PA

An exact quote from an Autism speaks ad. "my family is affected by Autism" Parents inflict intense psychological abuse on the child. Munchausen by Proxy is happening without the evidence of a physical injury. Parents, most typically the mothers, inflict this abuse. The effects of this abuse manifests. Now look at that exact literal quote above. The parents and family want all of the attention and sympathy.


I agree that the quote "my family is affected by Autism" may actually indirectly harm someone with autism if they misinterpret the meaning of it.

However, this does not constitute abuse. It is a actually a very simple and true fact. If autism did not affect the parents, then that would mean the parents did not care for their child, right? I agree you have a point, but I'm just not sure exactly what you are argument is.



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03 Mar 2012, 9:55 am

Some questions I am being asked I think I have already answered. It's frustrating to keep explaining things over and over again. It's like an interogation to break me down or to see if my story stays consistent. Maybe some people are quite content having all online contact. I desperately need to have a local support group. There are only parent run Autism groups near me. There are not parents of adult children at these support groups. It would be a little bit easier to form a real support group if there were parents of adult children at the existing support groups. I need to form a support group for Autistic adults. It does not make sense for me to go to a support group full of parents of kids and talk to them about forming a support group for Autistic adults. Those mothers fulfill their own needs of having a support group for themselves and don't give one single thought to their kids having a support group. Wait, correction. I think there is a support group for teens. But those mothers never formed a support group for Autistic adults. The parents of adult children cease to exist at those meetings. The parents of adults have never shown any desire to want their own support group for themselves or to start a support group for their adult children.



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03 Mar 2012, 11:16 am

Elwyn
Corporate Office:
111 Elwyn Road,
Elwyn, PA 19063
610-891-2000
[email protected]
http://www.elwyn.org/

ARCH of the Lehigh Valley
Autism Resource Community Hub of the Lehigh Valley
LOCATION: 1347 Hausman Road
Allentown, PA 18104
610-573-2500
866-670-ARCH (2724).
http://www.elwyn.org/program/autism_res ... igh_valley


The ARCH is a resource within the Elwyn organization. The ARCH does Autism and nothing but Autism. Elwyn and the ARCH organization is under the influence and control of parents of Autistic children simply because they are parents. Once the child becomes an adult the parent says "sayonara" and hits the road. The Elwyn organization does not listen to the Autistic person.

Even though the Arch does only Autism, they exclude adults. They only help children.

Within the Pennsylvania department of public welfare, there is the borough of Autism services.

There is no existing support group for Autistic adults. None of the organizations mentioned are doing anything to establish a support group for Autistic adults. There is an urgent need for a local support group for Autistic adults. Every place I cal tells me it is not their job and they tell me to call someplace else.

There are absolutely no parents of adult children telling those organizations what they need to be doing. Those organizations completely ignore Autistic people telling them what they are supposed to be doing.

The age of child protection for Autistics has to go above the age of 18. Parents of adult Autistic children have to be required to speak out for the rights of their children. The state of Pennsylvania and organizations has to be required to listen to and be responsive of Autistic people themselves.



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03 Mar 2012, 12:47 pm

I agree with you and is needed everywhere. I think it's also why many of our homeless people are probably on the spectrum and end up on the street suffering other catastrophic circumstances. Those who have no one to help or care for them. Autistic people do not engender care by nature. I'm only lucky because I have a gift that I get a certain degree of value or care but it is also fraught with unnecessary struggle and hardship when I can't perform at the level I'm required and suffer much due to those problems. Those who pay the highest tax payer dollars have the most rights and those who don't haven't any. They care for children because they are morally required. That comes to a stop once they become adults. There are lucky autistic people who have parents who help them throughout. For those who aren't lucky, it's just a burden to tax payer dollars. Tax payers much rather have their money spent on war and other atrocities as a majority than think about problems like this.



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04 Mar 2012, 5:33 am

I need an Autism support group that is located locally and near where I live. There is none. I want an Autism support group that is literally for Autistics. I want a support group where I know I will be in a safe zone and understood.

The only existing support groups are run by parents of young children. The complete lack of action of parents of adults forming a support group where Autistic adults can go to should be an indicator of what the current parents of children will do when those children are adults.

When an Autistic person is bullied, and then not believed, that is a double share of more bullying. I try to report bullying that happens to me. When I am not believed, I am not taken seriously, I get no help, the bullying continues, becomes too much. My despair of hopelessness is only seen as a symptom of Autism, and not as what it is which is a valid response to bullying.

A very detailed account of landlord bullying, I posted here on WP.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4430212 ... t=#4430212



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04 Mar 2012, 6:04 am

I just want to let you know that I believe you when you say you have been bullied (I took a look at the thread you posted).

So many people like to say, "oh, that persons not a bully, they are just a jerk" and because they are simply a jerk a heart and "can't help it" they haven't actually done anything wrong. This is denial of course. Bullying is wrong. Being a jerk doesn't excuse bullying behavior (obviously, that statement makes no sense of course).

Not sure what you should do about it though.



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05 Mar 2012, 12:40 am

Sorry but I don't understand what exactly the child abuse is. Are you saying you are being abused? Is there sexual or physical abuse going on to you or someone? All I was able to understand is that you don't have any local support and feel that the local autism organizations aren't helping you. If thats so I will let you know most support organizations aren't very helpful. Theres not much support for autistic adults in most places, but its not just like that for autism. Its like that for other things; diabetes, cancer, alzheimers, aids, and so on. Its a tough world and most of us have to figure out to fend for ourselves. I've had several difficulties and misfortunes in my life due to my communitcation troubles and other difficulties, but there has never been an organization to walk me through any of it. I think its like this for almost everyone autistic or not.



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05 Mar 2012, 5:47 am

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Sorry but I don't understand what exactly the child abuse is. Are you saying you are being abused? Is there sexual or physical abuse going on to you or someone? All I was able to understand is that you don't have any local support and feel that the local autism organizations aren't helping you. If thats so I will let you know most support organizations aren't very helpful. Theres not much support for autistic adults in most places, but its not just like that for autism. Its like that for other things; diabetes, cancer, alzheimers, aids, and so on. Its a tough world and most of us have to figure out to fend for ourselves. I've had several difficulties and misfortunes in my life due to my communitcation troubles and other difficulties, but there has never been an organization to walk me through any of it. I think its like this for almost everyone autistic or not.


If he is the one being abused, this can't possibly be ''child abuse'' since his profile says he is 44 years old, so he is not a ''child''. Likewise, his rant about people over 18 not being taken care by the parents doesn't fall under umbrella of ''child abuse'' either.

It seems to me like he is just ranting about several different topics and tries to lump them together. What he mentioned in original post, in fact, involves ''children''. But he seems to be vague about ''a lot of'' autistic children, rather than talking about some specific situation.

It seems he doesn't seem to realize that the point of the report is to report some specific incident, not large scale pattern. What he is doing seems just as silly as to report how ''a lot of women across the country'' are raped, or ''a lot of gangs'' out there sell drugs, or ''a lot of children'' are abducted, and so forth. Everyone knows all these things are happening daily. The purpose of a report is to bring a very specific incident to the attention, and this is what the author of this post seems not to be getting.

Or perhaps he does think of something specific but doesn't realize that we can not deduce it from reading his post???