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20 Jan 2021, 6:03 am

I have social anxiety.

Wherever I go people hate me and try to stir s**t against me.

I should probably just not bother with anyone.

I wish they would at least pick a lane because some of their insults are completely contradictory and hypocritical.


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20 Jan 2021, 6:19 am

Why does no one like you? You are a nice person.


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20 Jan 2021, 7:35 am

Because I make mistakes.

Mistakes make me a bigot.

Or a creep.

I'm a 'virtue signaller'.

Or I lack virtue.

I'm a loser.

But I brag too much.

People need to pick a f*****g lane.

I'm tired of trying to be something for everyone.

Happens on every single site.

Especially ones which are flooded with NTs.

Especially ones full of banter.

When I was on discord this guy pinned every mistake I ever made or flippant joke I ever made or admission of failure I had in order to make it out that I was a dirty, creepy bigot.


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20 Jan 2021, 8:00 am

Try this...:

Let people say what they want as you can make yourself be like a duck. Ducks don't notice the bad weather. To them it is fun. They also know how to "Duck" if something flies past their heads. It is where the term "Duck!" comes from.

So duck and be like a duck so the water comes off your back.

Water can't touch you then as you can handle it and make it work for you!

(Now that is an idea that came to me because outside it is raining and windy and we have ducks).

The wind... Well. In the past when we had chickens and it was windy one chicken laid the same egg three times! Haha. Joking.. But yes. Ducks may be inclined to be rebellious but they have one good feature. They are resilliant. They actually like the rain. They love water. They make the best of what ever they have! They maybe a bit silly as ducks we have had in the past kinda went up to a fox and offered their necks into its mouth where they should have run the other way! But at least they could duck! Haha. Funny things!

So waddle along and be like a duck because you are not a chicken!


[I don't know if what I write makes any sense at all. I am not sure if it makes that much sense to me either! But if it will cheer you up I will post it so here. Have an odd duck analogy and if it does not fit the "Bill", duck! :D ]


And just to say I like you because you are a nice person and I can say most of us like you. We may not always agree because we may have different views in life, but that does not mean we don't like you.

Be re-assured.


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22 Jan 2021, 4:25 pm

KT67 wrote:

I'm tired of trying to be something for everyone.



Just be yourself. That's the best "you" that you can be. See, in that other thread where we argued, I noticed this "disturbance", let's call it that way, not meaning to be derogatory. It's like you were trying very hard to project an image that wasn't naturally you. Do you feel that you're entirely honest with yourself? Do you feel that you know yourself fully, inside out? Do you love yourself?



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22 Jan 2021, 6:34 pm

If i had friends like you I would probably feel sh***y too. I remember friends like those. There are better people out there.

Maybe you should talk to them to see why they personally say those things and ask them to stop.


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22 Jan 2021, 6:46 pm

there is an old saying
"change what you can accept what you cant"

perhaps you can change the people around you from their negative responses towards
perhaps some of the reason why they treat you the way they do is due to lack of understanding of ASD

in many cases however, some people are just not worth worrying about
and they will likely be jerk offs for the rest of their lives

what ever you do and say
they will continue to pick fault

I have met loads of people in my life that are like that
including some who I have gone out my way to help
given money to or possessions that are worth loads of money

and they will still never will have a good word to say about me
but you know what

that's on them
not me

i did my best
but like i say
some really only throw dirt
regardless as to what you are like or what you do

sometimes we gotta love ourselves
and let the universe heal us

and not give care so much about what others think of us
if in your heart you know you haven't done anything significant wrong

then don't worry about it

people cant let others live
is their fault rather than yours

find others to hang with
or try and be comfortable with yourself
and the universe



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22 Jan 2021, 6:52 pm

wastubricine wrote:
KT67 wrote:

I'm tired of trying to be something for everyone.



Just be yourself. That's the best "you" that you can be. See, in that other thread where we argued, I noticed this "disturbance", let's call it that way, not meaning to be derogatory. It's like you were trying very hard to project an image that wasn't naturally you. Do you feel that you're entirely honest with yourself? Do you feel that you know yourself fully, inside out? Do you love yourself?


I do not believe in mind reading. On a metaphysical level, I do not believe that is possible.

When I am by myself, I am trying to be myself. When I am with others, I am trying to stay safe.

I believe loving yourself comes before loving others in a romantic or sexual manner. You need to be in a good place first.


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22 Jan 2021, 7:26 pm

Rexi wrote:
If i had friends like you I would probably feel sh***y too. I remember friends like those. There are better people out there.

Maybe you should talk to them to see why they personally say those things and ask them to stop.


They did it to be edgy and because it's funny.

I didn't tell them to stop, I just quit going on the site.

I told them I had anxiety and autism and they used that as something to tease me about.

They didn't like me. So they weren't really friends.

It stems from sports rivalry and political disagreement. Cultural baggage.

On here: the guy just likes to tease, I did PM him and tell him to stop and he said 'ok'. He's a decent guy just has an odd sense of humour that doesn't work for someone with social anxiety.

Also I take things literally which means it is easy to catch me out with word game tricks.

I don't want to get edgy in how I talk to people. I tried it once. It didn't feel right.

I want to be a nice person. But at the same time, I don't want to be a weak person.


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22 Jan 2021, 7:30 pm

KT67 wrote:

I do not believe in mind reading. On a metaphysical level, I do not believe that is possible.


Me neither. But there's a special connection I experienced with special people very similar to me, and I can't deny its existence.

KT67 wrote:
When I am by myself, I am trying to be myself. When I am with others, I am trying to stay safe.


When you are with others, are you sometimes with people you are afraid of? If that's the case, can't you avoid them or minimize contact with them?

KT67 wrote:
I believe loving yourself comes before loving others in a romantic or sexual manner. You need to be in a good place first.


I strongly believe that too. I think that's a good foundation. Do you love yourself, or is it just this belief that doesn't necessarily apply to you?



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22 Jan 2021, 9:57 pm

wastubricine wrote:
KT67 wrote:

I do not believe in mind reading. On a metaphysical level, I do not believe that is possible.


Me neither. But there's a special connection I experienced with special people very similar to me, and I can't deny its existence.


OK - I haven't had that experience. I'll try and keep an open mind but it hasn't happened in my life.

I am hyperlexic and rely a lot on words. This is a trait of autism in some people.

wastubricine wrote:
KT67 wrote:
When I am by myself, I am trying to be myself. When I am with others, I am trying to stay safe.


When you are with others, are you sometimes with people you are afraid of? If that's the case, can't you avoid them or minimize contact with them?


This is what I'm trying to do. But when certain people criticise me, it goes in deep. It reminds me of an unsafe situation in my teens. And coupling that with what Pepe calls 'virtue signaling...'

Without getting into details, their virtue signaling turned out to be hypocritical projection. They were doing far worse things than I was. I wasn't doing anything actually wrong. As soon as I saw that they were doing bad things, I left.

But I still feel guilty over doing perfectly normal, moral stuff. As if I have to be held to a higher standard than the one they are failing to reach.

Writing it out like that makes it seem ridiculous tbh.

As for the rest of what they hate me for - it is stuff I cannot change about myself. Somewhere else all this stuff obviously doesn't matter but that's not my life - it's never been my life. Closest thing I have to it is sticking to the community so when something happens I can express it to people who 'get it' because they've been through it too. Or I can text my dad. Whenever they say this stuff it hurts and I try to avoid it as much as possible but it's still out there. It makes me feel 'less than' and it comes in the way of intrusive thoughts.

wastubricine wrote:
KT67 wrote:
I believe loving yourself comes before loving others in a romantic or sexual manner. You need to be in a good place first.


I strongly believe that too. I think that's a good foundation. Do you love yourself, or is it just this belief that doesn't necessarily apply to you?


I'm trying to get to a place where I love myself. Everything else can wait. When/if romance does come, I believe it will be initiated through spoken interaction with someone when I am in a healthy place of mind. I am comfortable right now with it not being part of what I'm aiming at in terms of the 'forefront' of my life. I feel like when it does come, I deserve to be 'picky' - eg, only dating someone I am physically attracted to and who is nice and I feel safe around.

I feel more comfortable when I am on my own. I've always felt like that. Even before my anxiety set in. That's why I say I'm 'in love' with my hobbies, because when I'm doing my hobbies and not socialising with anyone, I feel totally content.


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24 Jan 2021, 6:14 pm

Welcome to the Aspie experience. No one here leaves alive. Try to surround yourself with good people. people with integrity. Just ignore the insanity. The know not what they do.


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