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10 Apr 2025, 1:04 am

I thought I would share something here that I wouldn't normally share but I'd like to hear what some others think. Like many people on the spectrum and even those who are NT I have self-esteem issues. This is probably a vain thing to say but I enjoy wearing dress clothes and suits because it increases my self-esteem. I never really cared for dress clothes growing up. I think I kind of hated wearing them to church when I was little. About five years ago I got an accounting job at a company that required a kind of business professional dress code.

We had CEO's who would occassionally come to the office. I was "required" to wear a tie and a dress shirt. I thought just wearing that by itself seemed kind of silly and thought "If I'm going to do that I might as well wear a suit". That's what I ended up doing. There were some girls (around my age and some slightly younger) who worked there and felt (this could have been in my mind) that I felt more attractive wearing one. It did also increase my confidence a bit and felt more polished and put together. At one point I even bought a suit vest to wear and made the suit a three-piece suit. I did like how it looked. Now even when I go out to things like the grocery store I still wear a suit jacket and dress clothes (without a tie). This is an incredibly vulnerable thing to say and admit but I like the attention I get from it. I wish that maybe wasn't the case but I can't lie and say I don't.

I sometimes feel bad that I am this way. I went to the store this evening and wore one out and the girl at the checkout asked what I did as she hardly ever sees anybody in one. I told her I worked in Accounting. It made me feel good to get the compliment. I am at the point now where I dislike wearing normal clothes anymore. I only wear run down clothes around the house and never in public. Even with outings with family to restaurants and family gatherings I wear a suit jacket. Maybe I'm trying to be someone I'm not but I feel better in one. Maybe this is another facet of the "Masking" phenomenon with ASD. I don't know what to make of it anymore but am interested in hearing what others think. I am thinking maybe this is something I need therapy for and is indicative of some self-esteem issues.



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10 Apr 2025, 1:16 am

I don't see anything wrong with it.
Women routinely dress up to look good before they go out.



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10 Apr 2025, 1:18 am

Thank you! That's true. I guess a part of me feels like maybe I'm doing this for the wrong reason but it's become so routine that it's hard to wear jeans or regular shirts out.



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10 Apr 2025, 10:53 am

How do your clothes feel sensory-wise? Dress clothes were always miserable for me, so when I quit going to church as an adult, I quit wearing many things I didn’t find comfy. I think I’d find ties and suits a challenge.

If you genuinely like wearing what you wear, then it might not be a problem although it wouldn’t hurt to talk to a therapist, either, if you think there’s more going on.


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10 Apr 2025, 11:03 am

I have also experienced positive female attention whilst wearing a suit, though I rarely wear one. I think a lot of (though certainly not all) hetreosexual women like men in suits. Suits can be very flattering for a man's appearance, especially tailored fit suits.

I don't see that there is a problem with wearing one regularly, personally. The only drawback I can think of is the effort and as others have alluded to - any sensory issues that might arise from wearing such clothing.

And you do have a legitimate reason for wearing one if you work in accounting, but even if you wanted to just wear one for appearances, that is okay too.



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10 Apr 2025, 11:22 am

TwilightPrincess wrote:
How do your clothes feel sensory-wise? Dress clothes were always miserable for me, so when I quit going to church as an adult, I quit wearing many things I didn’t find comfy. I think I’d find ties and suits a challenge.

If you genuinely like wearing what you wear, then it might not be a problem although it wouldn’t hurt to talk to a therapist, either, if you think there’s more going on.


They don't feel too bad. The only thing that bothers me is wearing a tie sometimes because it feels slightly tight but I think it might be the fit that causes it. I used to get Polyester dress clothes when I was younger and remember they never felt quite too good and were hot. I get cotten dress clothes now and they feel pretty good. I appreciate your thoughts TP!



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10 Apr 2025, 11:25 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
I have also experienced positive female attention whilst wearing a suit, though I rarely wear one. I think a lot of (though certainly not all) hetreosexual women like men in suits. Suits can be very flattering for a man's appearance, especially tailored fit suits.

I don't see that there is a problem with wearing one regularly, personally. The only drawback I can think of is the effort and as others have alluded to - any sensory issues that might arise from wearing such clothing.

And you do have a legitimate reason for wearing one if you work in accounting, but even if you wanted to just wear one for appearances, that is okay too.


Thank you for sharing! I sometimes feel like I'm being kind of vain but it could be my own anxiety. I appreciate your thoughts Blitzkrieg!



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10 Apr 2025, 11:36 am

I wear female clothes because I look really good in them. I have an hourglass figure with a narrow waistline. :D



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10 Apr 2025, 12:08 pm

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I wear female clothes because I look really good in them. I have an hourglass figure with a narrow waistline. :D


That's good :) I'm glad you feel good in them! Feeling good and liking what you wear and makes you comfortable is important!



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10 Apr 2025, 12:16 pm

Brian0787 wrote:
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I have also experienced positive female attention whilst wearing a suit, though I rarely wear one. I think a lot of (though certainly not all) hetreosexual women like men in suits. Suits can be very flattering for a man's appearance, especially tailored fit suits.

I don't see that there is a problem with wearing one regularly, personally. The only drawback I can think of is the effort and as others have alluded to - any sensory issues that might arise from wearing such clothing.

And you do have a legitimate reason for wearing one if you work in accounting, but even if you wanted to just wear one for appearances, that is okay too.


Thank you for sharing! I sometimes feel like I'm being kind of vain but it could be my own anxiety. I appreciate your thoughts Blitzkrieg!


Even if you were being vain in this particular aspect of your life, that isn't necessarily the sign of any kind of mental disorder. Try not to worry! :)



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10 Apr 2025, 12:20 pm

The thing about self-esteem is that it's accumulative. The more good experiences you have the better you feel about yourself and I'd say that if you feel good about yourself you increase your odds of having good experiences.

If feeling good about yourself involves dressing smartly then I really can't see anything wrong in that at all. Certainly not an issue for therapy.

If it were getting in the way of your ability to live your life - like if you couldn't go out to get food because you felt your clothes weren't smart enough then that would be another matter. But this doesn't sound like that.


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10 Apr 2025, 12:25 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
Brian0787 wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
I have also experienced positive female attention whilst wearing a suit, though I rarely wear one. I think a lot of (though certainly not all) hetreosexual women like men in suits. Suits can be very flattering for a man's appearance, especially tailored fit suits.

I don't see that there is a problem with wearing one regularly, personally. The only drawback I can think of is the effort and as others have alluded to - any sensory issues that might arise from wearing such clothing.

And you do have a legitimate reason for wearing one if you work in accounting, but even if you wanted to just wear one for appearances, that is okay too.


Thank you for sharing! I sometimes feel like I'm being kind of vain but it could be my own anxiety. I appreciate your thoughts Blitzkrieg!


Thank you Blitzkrieg! :) I appreciate it!

Even if you were being vain in this particular aspect of your life, that isn't necessarily the sign of any kind of mental disorder. Try not to worry! :)



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10 Apr 2025, 12:27 pm

DuckHairback wrote:
The thing about self-esteem is that it's accumulative. The more good experiences you have the better you feel about yourself and I'd say that if you feel good about yourself you increase your odds of having good experiences.

If feeling good about yourself involves dressing smartly then I really can't see anything wrong in that at all. Certainly not an issue for therapy.

If it were getting in the way of your ability to live your life - like if you couldn't go out to get food because you felt your clothes weren't smart enough then that would be another matter. But this doesn't sound like that.


That's a good point! Self-esteem is cumulative. I sometimes get self-conscious in public if I'm not wearing dress clothes but am able to go out without them if I need to. I just tell myself "I don't care what others think" and then go. I appreciate your thoughts! :)



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10 Apr 2025, 1:04 pm

Most people wear good clothes to feel good.

I'm quite aware of this.
Because I've seen this pattern too many times to a point that I have too many people fusses over it as if it's life or death.
Sometimes it's their lifeline or their shield, or really, their mask.


I'm the inverse; if I feel good, I'd wear good clothes. Or at least actually bother to style it better or choose more carefully.

And it didn't matter to me at the end of the day because all of it just passes or ends.
It doesn't "accumulate" as much for me, which makes what others think of what I worn really do not matter.

Like; didn't matter how much I put an effort to my looks; if I'm pissed I'm pissed. End of story.
No amount of positive attention and commentary would get me out of it. Nothing did except solve the root causes of said reason why I'm pissed, in which my own looks and others' feedbacks do not solve.



I already covered most of my own bases related to my own clothing pieces; sensory, preferences, conveniences, maintenance, etc.

And want it to go further by buying pieces I can always rotate and wear anywhere with enough style to get by any setting.
Or at least as wide range of a settings, with all my sensory and style prefernces as possible.

Thus I'm going to this "super picky dream wardrobe route".
So even if I really just do not feel like it; it'll still and always be "more appropriate".


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10 Apr 2025, 3:59 pm

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Most people wear good clothes to feel good.

I'm quite aware of this.
Because I've seen this pattern too many times to a point that I have too many people fusses over it as if it's life or death.
Sometimes it's their lifeline or their shield, or really, their mask.


I'm the inverse; if I feel good, I'd wear good clothes. Or at least actually bother to style it better or choose more carefully.

And it didn't matter to me at the end of the day because all of it just passes or ends.
It doesn't "accumulate" as much for me, which makes what others think of what I worn really do not matter.

Like; didn't matter how much I put an effort to my looks; if I'm pissed I'm pissed. End of story.
No amount of positive attention and commentary would get me out of it. Nothing did except solve the root causes of said reason why I'm pissed, in which my own looks and others' feedbacks do not solve.



I already covered most of my own bases related to my own clothing pieces; sensory, preferences, conveniences, maintenance, etc.

And want it to go further by buying pieces I can always rotate and wear anywhere with enough style to get by any setting.
Or at least as wide range of a settings, with all my sensory and style prefernces as possible.

Thus I'm going to this "super picky dream wardrobe route".
So even if I really just do not feel like it; it'll still and always be "more appropriate".


I appreciate you sharing your thoughts Edna! It makes sense what you are saying. How you feel dosen't determine what you wear and you base it on your comfortability and preferences. That's a good way to go!



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10 Apr 2025, 8:06 pm

Brian0787 wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
Most people wear good clothes to feel good.

I'm quite aware of this.
Because I've seen this pattern too many times to a point that I have too many people fusses over it as if it's life or death.
Sometimes it's their lifeline or their shield, or really, their mask.


I'm the inverse; if I feel good, I'd wear good clothes. Or at least actually bother to style it better or choose more carefully.

And it didn't matter to me at the end of the day because all of it just passes or ends.
It doesn't "accumulate" as much for me, which makes what others think of what I worn really do not matter.

Like; didn't matter how much I put an effort to my looks; if I'm pissed I'm pissed. End of story.
No amount of positive attention and commentary would get me out of it. Nothing did except solve the root causes of said reason why I'm pissed, in which my own looks and others' feedbacks do not solve.



I already covered most of my own bases related to my own clothing pieces; sensory, preferences, conveniences, maintenance, etc.

And want it to go further by buying pieces I can always rotate and wear anywhere with enough style to get by any setting.
Or at least as wide range of a settings, with all my sensory and style prefernces as possible.

Thus I'm going to this "super picky dream wardrobe route".
So even if I really just do not feel like it; it'll still and always be "more appropriate".


I appreciate you sharing your thoughts Edna! It makes sense what you are saying. How you feel dosen't determine what you wear and you base it on your comfortability and preferences. That's a good way to go!

Yet not much with others.

Back when I'm just starting out, since I don't care a lot for fashion and yet to have my own wardrobe...

Elder women who wanted to teach me usually kept telling me that people want to feel better by looking better.

Or that buying something fancy and new will make them feel better. Or looking at the mirror and have their looks a bit more presentable perks them up a bit.

Sometimes it's their confidence, their security in relationships depended on it...
Because their looks do change the way others treat them, thus how they feel about themselves.


And people just really do not realize this doesn't apply to me.

It kinda reflects where one puts their priorities; their priorities are to do with relationships and responsibilities that came with it.
Their looks, their impressions... It assured them. It just makes sense that it can be a part of someone's masking or ways they fawn, even.

Mine was this forced unfiltered interoceptive sensory issue, a good portion of it from an untreated unmanageable internal disruptor that no amount of external approval or assurance will ever help alleviate.

For me to feel good, I need to solve neglected medical issues, internal issues and whatever makes me feel off -- than to let people tell me I'm loved and worthy or fulfill belonging and assurance of safety or something like that.


But sure, clothes...
I prefer to own smaller quantities of it as much as possible.

I also grew up with a mom that carelessly gets too many clothes that it's a level 2 hoarding that it frustrates the hell out of me at the sight of it growing up.

And even with all the yelling that it didn't matter how fancy, how expensive something is; uncomfortable is uncomfortable. Screw social crappity in my case.

... And people still persists it's their way. :roll:


So the way I see it;

In self esteem, being good with their clothes is either someone who's already well assured, has a firm sense of identity; or it's just someone with enough time and money, or is not well assured and it's just a layer of mask they're maintaining.

Amongst other things; like in dynamics; of not outshining your superiors and a sign of not looking out of place... Yadda yadda...

I kinda like the idea that my wardrobe is all uniform like; and all just as comfortable at home and outdoors.
Like, if one's wardrobe of choice, in ways they all mix and match is all good, why do I need to ever mind them? :lol:

Since I don't mask; what I do comfortably on surface level in public is almost no different than in private; I want my wardrobe to reflect that way.

Most people have clothes that seperates their aspects of life from another. Sometimes double living with double identities.

I don't have that. Maybe I don't want that.



For me, seeing people saying their clothes makes them feel better is just telling me what is obvious for many humans.

And the shift of priorities from their youth's to their adulthood's is also of no surprise.
And plenty of autistics shifts their childhoods' asocial but internal and sensory, then towards their external feedback from others.


I recommend covering all your bases first; the sensory and practicality aspects...

Style and thenes can come later.
Unless you're a skilled dressmaker or you know one who and where it can give you both at once.

Mostly, people do the inverse; style and themes first, altering to comfort later. Maybe never sometimes.


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