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15 Oct 2011, 11:54 pm

When I was younger (as in up until I was about 25) I'd get checked out by gay men (usually older men) often despite never/very rarely getting checked out by women, even "unattractive women." I was very thin and frail looking and had a babyface. And now that I look my age, am more filled out, have less of a baby face, men and women alike guess my age right on the dot frequently and I never get carded and all that good stuff.

I also noticed an owner of a local furniture outlet in town with a very young, latin boy (the guy is in his 50s/60s.)

I don't mean this in an offensive way at all, and know that it in no way represents all gay men...but what is the appeal with boyish looking...well boys...not even men? I guess I just found it weird how I was frequently checked out by gay men but not at all attractive to women...so what were they seeing?



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16 Oct 2011, 1:29 am

I don't know. 8O I have never experienced this. I seem to attract the buff sporty types and i myself am attracted to really nerdy larger types. (comic book man on the simpsons is like my type)

Maybe you looked young enough that you got the pedo's looking at you and checking you out. :shrug:

I do know why young buff men like the latino guy go after the older men, same reason bimbo barbie types do. MONEY!



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16 Oct 2011, 2:26 am

nilescrane wrote:
When I was younger (as in up until I was about 25) I'd get checked out by gay men (usually older men) often despite never/very rarely getting checked out by women, even "unattractive women." I was very thin and frail looking and had a babyface. And now that I look my age, am more filled out, have less of a baby face, men and women alike guess my age right on the dot frequently and I never get carded and all that good stuff.


when i stopped getting carded after my 40s, that depressed me somewhat. it was then that i was officially an old fart and not a pretty young thing anymore. damn. :hmph:

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I also noticed an owner of a local furniture outlet in town with a very young, latin boy (the guy is in his 50s/60s.)

lucky #@$%&?! ! chicken hawk. :x

nilescrane wrote:
I don't mean this in an offensive way at all, and know that it in no way represents all gay men...but what is the appeal with boyish looking...well boys...not even men? I guess I just found it weird how I was frequently checked out by gay men but not at all attractive to women...so what were they seeing?


as an official old fart, i can tell you that i am enamored of pretty young men, the more feminine/effeminate the better, especially if they are hipsy/thighsy and buttsy. i am guessing that this is a kind of residual heterosexual lust expressed in a homosexual manner. there are gay or bi men who find effeminate men repulsive, and i can't guess what is going on in such hypermasculine/macho men's heads for them to think that way. women have always ignored me [at best] also, so you are not alone in that regard.



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16 Oct 2011, 10:40 pm

I like a manly gay or bi sexual man :wink:



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17 Oct 2011, 9:17 pm

I know this is somewhat stereotypical, but there tend to be more similarities in how gay men and straight men determine attractiveness than gay men and straight women, even though the targeted sex changes between the two groups of men vs the two groups of androphiles. I know this is somewhat stereotypical, but it is also true to some extent - men are visual creatures, while women tend to have more emotions involved in their choice of mate. For guys, youth is a highly desirable quality in a mate, while for women, stability and ability to provide tend to be more highly regarded.



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18 Oct 2011, 4:13 am

nilescrane wrote:

I don't mean this in an offensive way at all, and know that it in no way represents all gay men...but what is the appeal with boyish looking...well boys...not even men? I guess I just found it weird how I was frequently checked out by gay men but not at all attractive to women...so what were they seeing?



The same thing men see and are attracted to in young women who look like girls,
to the point where many of them don't even refer to grown women as such.


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18 Oct 2011, 7:36 am

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18 Oct 2011, 10:42 am

There are as many different kinds of attraction as there are people to be attracted. What appeals to one will not necessarily appeal to another. While there might be some very, very general rules, there are so many exceptions that I am not altogether sure they are valuable as more than stereotypes.

I suspect, however, that your experience may be colouring how you perceive other people's attraction. When you were a twink, you were attractive to the people who like twinks. When you became the boy next door, you became attractive to the people who like boys next door. So it will go as you change.


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18 Oct 2011, 1:37 pm

The "special appeal" of younger guys to gay men is the same as the "special appeal" of younger girls to straight men. It's funny how it's considered strange for gay men to be attracted to young and boyish guys, and yet there's nothing strange about a straight guy drooling over a 15 year old cheerleader at a football game or a young girl on a "barely legal" porn website dressed up to look like she's 12. Me, I have no preference. On any given day I'll find myself being attracted to a guy who looks like he's 15 and five minutes later I'll see a guy who looks 50 who I wouldn't mind dating.



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18 Oct 2011, 3:12 pm

No I think that men that look at young girls under 18, and not only under 18, but look under 18, have issues as well. In fact I used to watch To Catch A Predator to laugh at the guys on the show.

I just found it sickening how I was a young boy, and who knows what was going through those guy's minds.



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18 Oct 2011, 4:24 pm

The age of consent in the UK, straight and gay, is 16 and younger still in other countries.
In all cases they are legal constructs.
What value does your "under 18" rule have now?

There are many attractive properties in people of all ages and very few of them involve a sexual impulse.
Please remember this before you dismiss something as sick, weird or perverted just because it doesn't fit within your own personal "legal construct".


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21 Oct 2011, 7:31 pm

I think it's the same reason that heterosexual men are attracted to youthful-looking women. We practically worship youthfulness.



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21 Oct 2011, 8:44 pm

Cornflake wrote:
The age of consent in the UK, straight and gay, is 16 and younger still in other countries.
In all cases they are legal constructs.
What value does your "under 18" rule have now?

**WARING** PERSONAL RANT:
Well, in Canada the laws are antiquated and age of consent for gay men isn't until 18, while for straight couples it is only 16. Unfortunately the only party which seems to even bother thinking about that is the Green Party. So unless they manage to negotiate their way into a coalition 4 years from now when the Conservative (definitely not the type to change this rule) finally have to dissolve parliament, then that isn't going to change in the foreseeable future.



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22 Oct 2011, 7:05 am

^^ :roll: Yeah, rant well understood. My commiserations.

For a long time we had the age of consent for gay men at 21 and heterosexuals at 16. Apparently, gay women don't exist.
And then there was the sheer joy of Section 28, designed to protect children from "predatory homosexuals" - basically giving legal weight to the "all gay men are kiddie-fiddlers" crap.
Fortunately things have moved on since then but I doubt they would have moved quite so far were it not for the European Commission of Human Rights and Euan Sutherland.
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22 Oct 2011, 1:23 pm

Keep in mind, when I was a senior in high school/freshman in college, I looked about 15/16...and when I was 22/23, people would still ask me "What grade are you in?" Also I'm not a "pretty boy" at all, rather average looking. So what I'm saying is that gay men were looking at me because I was scrawny and looked underage.