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03 Aug 2011, 6:06 pm

Mercury tastes horrible
Its poisonous too and is why I am currently insane
CARE FOR A CUPCAKE?!



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03 Aug 2011, 10:29 pm

Hmm, we might have forgotten hot lead - especially when its whizzing past your ears.


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04 Aug 2011, 12:28 am

Alternative wrote:
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People just need to be exposed to the good stuff. For example: Testament


Yes Jory! Our Metal tastes must be the same. Testament are really underrated. :D


Oh yeah! Cast my vote for Testament as well. I've been a fan since The New Order. I listened to the Low album while working in the stockroom at work today. Kept me from falling asleep on the job. :P



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04 Aug 2011, 7:44 am

Ookla wrote:
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Jory wrote:
People just need to be exposed to the good stuff. For example: Testament


Yes Jory! Our Metal tastes must be the same. Testament are really underrated. :D


Oh yeah! Cast my vote for Testament as well. I've been a fan since The New Order. I listened to the Low album while working in the stockroom at work today. Kept me from falling asleep on the job. :P


High five! :mrgreen:



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04 Aug 2011, 8:37 am

Truthfully I'm pretty open to the stuff - I like it with good beats, like Slayer's more recent rather than older, if its got low muddy guitar - great. That and, despite a lot of flack that nu-metal gets I don't mind Korn or Limp Bizkit though I'll admit that I see why traditionalists wouldn't like that kind of mainstreaming and commercialization.

There is some metal that just bores me, like Cannibal Corpse or 6 Feet Under - if it sounds too much like mud and screaming, its not that I'll hate it, just that its about the same to me as listening to country - ie. background music at a bar, nothing else. What can save it is if it has some good/crisp hard starts or stops, has a rhythm instead of just being a pool of noise.

The only thing I can't stand or just find myself really annoyed by is ballad metal - ie. the blood countess songs, the "All hale the Norse gods" type stuff that makes me think of a bunch of shaggy AD&D nerds who were rolling twelve sided dice, heard Metallica and Megadeth, didn't get it at all and defiled metal with fantasy, roleplaying, etc.. Mind you I don't mind if its deliberately self-deprecating - like the Tenacious D movie, but I can't deal with Evanescence or Nightwish for the same reason (which technically are neither metal but suck in similar ways), the energy's got that former-AD&D dice-roller feel to it which is a big of a turnoff to me as it is in nerdcore rap.


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05 Aug 2011, 4:37 am

I can't seem to get into much power metal. I like the occasional power metal stuff, but bands like Dragonforce or Blind Guardian I just can't get into.



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05 Aug 2011, 6:43 am

Dragonforce, Sonata Artica, and Blind Guardian sound the same to me.

I love Running Wild though, and Exciter, and Agent Steel. I am not sure if they belong
to the same genre as the ones mentioned before.



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05 Aug 2011, 2:15 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
a lot of flack that nu-metal gets I don't mind Korn or Limp Bizkit though I'll admit that I see why traditionalists wouldn't like that kind of mainstreaming and commercialization.


We don't hate Korn or Limp Bizkit because of mainstreaming and commercialization. We hate them because their music is f***ing terrible. Most of us would love more obscure bands like Testament to hit it big, and to see idiot teenagers stop wasting money on Limp Bizkit when they could buy an album from a real band who writes real music and doesn't suck an ass the size of Texas.



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05 Aug 2011, 3:29 pm

Jory wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
a lot of flack that nu-metal gets I don't mind Korn or Limp Bizkit though I'll admit that I see why traditionalists wouldn't like that kind of mainstreaming and commercialization.


We don't hate Korn or Limp Bizkit because of mainstreaming and commercialization. We hate them because their music is f***ing terrible.

I probably should have clarified - a commercialized sound.


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05 Aug 2011, 4:03 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I probably should have clarified - a commercialized sound.


It's a murky issue, then. On one hand, a commercial sound isn't necessarily a bad sound, but you were talking about traditionalists. In their case, yes, they're going to hate it.

But still, nobody hates Limp Bizkit because they're popular. Not when there's a much, much better reason to feel nausea just thinking about them.



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05 Aug 2011, 4:11 pm

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But still, nobody hates Limp Bizkit because they're popular. Not when there's a much, much better reason to feel nausea just thinking about them.

Lots of people like their sound as well (I'd consider myself mostly indifferent - they're hit and miss in my book), so I'd agree - its a murky issue.


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08 Aug 2011, 4:41 am

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But seriously, all of it. All metal music is s**t. Anyone can play a guitar loud and shout. It isn't "music". It's shouting.


I can see you've already taken a bit of a thrashing because of this particular statement. I'm not interested in criticizing your taste in music, but I do feel compelled to make a counter-argument, one which I haven't seen in any of the other responses.

Your characterization of metal is, of course, drastically oversimplified. Heavy metal is about as diverse as any other genre. I take exception to the detractors of heavy metal who base their complaints upon stereotypes of heavy metal as being nothing more than hollow aggression. Some bands, like Dream Theater, Tool, and Riverside have built successful heavy metal followings upon extremely complex narratives and song structures. Others, like Alice In Chains, have taken a more emotional path, one that sometimes requires a brutal amount of honesty regarding personal issues. And still others-- like, for example, Metallica-- gained their followings due in no small part to their sheer virtuosity with their instruments. There's a reason Metallica still sells out stadiums thirty years later, man-- it's largely because James and Kirk know how to play their freaking guitars. Rattle off a halfway decent full-length rendition of "Master of Puppets", and then get back to me about how it's so easy that anyone can do it.

Point is, as with any genre, the generalizations about heavy metal as a whole are usually less about the facts and more about a foregone personal opinion that conveniently overlooks anything that doesn't readily fit whatever assertion one happens to be making. If you want to criticize, do it on terms that actually have some merit. Saying it's "just shouting and playing loud" is a cop-out to cover for you not having any valid arguments.


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08 Aug 2011, 5:26 am

Any scene metal, nu metal (avenaged sevenfold, killswitch engage) or any joke bands like that..

And this is a personal opinion but i *hate* female-fronted opera metal like nightwish and epica.. I understand the point is to make beautiful music, but to a male those high rance female vocals don't bode well to my ears.


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