Does anyone hate electronic music like I do?

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19 Dec 2011, 9:54 am

A lot of people rated Kuedo's "Severant" as album of the year.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i59x7D_hpSc&feature=related[/youtube]



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19 Dec 2011, 10:07 am

To me electronic music sounds like if it was meant to sound annoying. Though the possibilities of today offer ways to also create sounds that don't just sound like ear-cancer.
Generally I at least prefer sinus-wave sounds to square or sawtooth wave sounds since it sounds smoother.
I feel also comfortable with atmospherical sounds created by computers. they are not that bad. So- I would say that I don't detest computer generated sounds, at least not the modern ones of high quality.
There are also some Drumnbass songs I quite enjoy. But techno is just f****d up trash. House and RnB can be at least a little nicer.
Sometimes it's such a pity that somebody uses electronical instruments instead of accoustic or electric ones... for example stevie wonder. he wrote such beautiful songs but then those awful synth backgrounds... yuck!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwOU3bnuU0k[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvkjuEAwgU[/youtube]
I just can't listen to such bad quality computer instruments... such a pity, such beautiful songs!


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19 Dec 2011, 10:20 am

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A lot of people rated Kuedo's "Severant" as album of the year.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i59x7D_hpSc&feature=related[/youtube]


Album of the year? goodness gracious!
This could have been written by a suckling xD
I don't care about how long it takes to shape good sounds on a computer, even though the here used sounds are rarely complex but very simple.
That's even worse than Katy Perry or the JONAS BROTHERS, since those Kuedo guys can't even sing or play an instrument (well, probably those 4 chords on the synthesizer xDDDD) xD
I'll pray to god that none of their works would ever be considered as album of the year, that's just such an impertinence!


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19 Dec 2011, 10:53 am

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I absolutely cannot stand electronic music. Any kind of dance music, rap, techno, pop-rock, etc. that is made or heavily influenced by computers sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. This can sometimes be difficult in social situations as whenever it is playing I automatically insult it and ask for it to be changed. I don't want to appreciate it, that is not the problem, I was just wondering if anyone else hears the same awful noise that I do when I listen to it.


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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCg893NR438[/youtube]



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19 Dec 2011, 3:25 pm

Yes I had exactly the same "problem" at your age :idea:

I started liking electronic music first around 20 or something. Before that it sounded monotone and irritating, yes!



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19 Dec 2011, 7:17 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
SticksAndSkins wrote:
I absolutely cannot stand electronic music. Any kind of dance music, rap, techno, pop-rock, etc. that is made or heavily influenced by computers sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. This can sometimes be difficult in social situations as whenever it is playing I automatically insult it and ask for it to be changed. I don't want to appreciate it, that is not the problem, I was just wondering if anyone else hears the same awful noise that I do when I listen to it.


WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB

I WILL PLAY THIS ON REPEAT UNTIL YOU LIKE IT:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCg893NR438[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEcj2xi9Ctc&feature=BFa&list=FLauFt__Q-Z_-Uf337tl0yPg&lf=mh_lolz[/youtube]



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19 Dec 2011, 7:29 pm

What always confused me was how dubstep's blown up so big that almost everyone's heard of it, it came from dnb which has been around since the mid 90's, and it seems like so few people outside of London know anything at all about dnb. Its not to say I dislike dubstep, dubstep and dnb seem like part-in-parcel genres though and I never fully got why so many people hated one and love other over a difference of.... 30 bpm?


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19 Dec 2011, 8:01 pm

fraac wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEcj2xi9Ctc&feature=BFa&list=FLauFt__Q-Z_-Uf337tl0yPg&lf=mh_lolz[/youtube]


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What always confused me was how dubstep's blown up so big that almost everyone's heard of it, it came from dnb which has been around since the mid 90's, and it seems like so few people outside of London know anything at all about dnb. Its not to say I dislike dubstep, dubstep and dnb seem like part-in-parcel genres though and I never fully got why so many people hated one and love other over a difference of.... 30 bpm?


I enjoy listening to both, though I mainly listen to dubstep. I think people who claim to love one but hate the other are just buried in an "us vs. them" mentality which is just one of many bugs in human nature. Honestly, you can prefer one for sure, but being a big fanboy about one while trashing the other is just... Well, like what most people do on the internet with everything, TBH :roll:



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19 Dec 2011, 8:21 pm

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I enjoy listening to both, though I mainly listen to dubstep. I think people who claim to love one but hate the other are just buried in an "us vs. them" mentality which is just one of many bugs in human nature. Honestly, you can prefer one for sure, but being a big fanboy about one while trashing the other is just... Well, like what most people do on the internet with everything, TBH :roll:

I'm not really talking about now so much as, perhaps, the time I started getting into dnb which was 1997ish, where you couldn't play it for most people without getting some truly bizarre/neurotic reactions, like it just *did* something to them, outside a few rave clubs it was the genre of music that simply didn't exist as if people almost willfully/deliberately shoved it under the carpet, but dubstep - made up of loads of the same sounds - its like people can't get enough of it :? . I really wonder what that invisible line in the sand was that made dubstep widely palatable while dnb of a similar character was widely unpalatable.


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19 Dec 2011, 8:25 pm

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I enjoy listening to both, though I mainly listen to dubstep. I think people who claim to love one but hate the other are just buried in an "us vs. them" mentality which is just one of many bugs in human nature. Honestly, you can prefer one for sure, but being a big fanboy about one while trashing the other is just... Well, like what most people do on the internet with everything, TBH :roll:

I'm not really talking about now so much as, perhaps, the time I started getting into dnb which was 1997ish, where you couldn't play it for most people without getting some truly bizarre/neurotic reactions, like it just *did* something to them, outside a few rave clubs it was the genre of music that simply didn't exist as if people almost willfully/deliberately shoved it under the carpet, but dubstep - made up of loads of the same sounds - its like people can't get enough of it :? . I really wonder what that invisible line in the sand was that made dubstep widely palatable while dnb of a similar character was widely unpalatable.


Strange. I must say, though, I get hilarious reactions when I play dubstep to my parents and other family members :lol:



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19 Dec 2011, 8:26 pm

I love dnb (though prefer jungle and its predecessor - UK hardcore). It's pretty universal, not just London, but it never really got into the mainstream except Goldie and Roni Size, and then breaks came and got used in lots of films like The Matrix and Fight Club, meanwhile dnb persists as a purely dance scene phenomenon. But definitely global. I like a lot of dubstep but it seems overinflated. I can barely listen to a whole dubstep mix, and when I do I hear a lot of the same tracks from Planet Mu people.

When dnb was briefly mainstream:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEBoVhx_hDk&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdP9Y_ERf4&feature=watch_response[/youtube]

The above, being actual good music, couldn't persist above ground for long and got replaced in the public consciousness by breaks (originally from London but New York popularised it):


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCBL33NKvPA[/youtube]



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19 Dec 2011, 9:13 pm

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/chart ... s-of-2011/

Decent list of recent electronic (dance) music.



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19 Dec 2011, 9:18 pm

fraac wrote:
I love dnb. It's pretty universal, not just London, but it never really got into the mainstream except Goldie and Roni Size, and then breaks came and got used in lots of films like The Matrix and Fight Club, meanwhile dnb persists as a purely dance scene phenomenon. But definitely global. I like a lot of dubstep but it seems overinflated. I can barely listen to a whole dubstep mix, and when I do I hear a lot of the same tracks from Planet Mu people.

I can listen to dubstep all day *but* it can't be of the synthetic variety. Any of the more ambient-directed stuff like Phaeleh, Silkie, Falty DL, Roska, Vaccine, etc. - that I can do. Also, check out Kryptic Minds' 'Can't Sleep' LP - deep/dark dnb vibes to dubstep (they were dnb producers first and crossed over later)


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When dnb was briefly mainstream:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEBoVhx_hDk&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdP9Y_ERf4&feature=watch_response[/youtube]


Actually in the days or Ron Size's Reprazent you had so much other stuff going on. Clearly V had Roni, Krust, Suv (REALLY love Krust and Suv's stuff from the 1997-98 era), Die; you also had John B doing jazz step and dark rollers, this is also back when Dillinja's stuff was more deep and ambient rather than what it came to later.

I don't want to jump up and down on the OP's head too much more so I'll just post links to some of the stuff that I did grow up on the 1997/98 era that, again, just didn't catch outside of the underground. Yes, in the US we did seem to have a strong set of local dj's who got it, we had a guy named Dj 3D who really had the knack down for dark rolling techstep, some other relatively famous staties of the period were Dieselboy (who IMO went downhill), Phantom 45, AK1200, ODI, Pish Posh, and then you had Soulslinger doing his own NYC thing which was sick.

Anyway the links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkeLtiGHqlg (Optical - The End Pt I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJf11ZReEtw (Matrix - Convoy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MjnZu3H6Sc (John B - Secrets)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcoH9KzQPg4 (Codename John - Structure Of Red)


A few of the super-rinsed dancefloor anthems from that period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKoM_K2UwA (Bad Company - The Nine)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1ivdS-Mu8 (RAM Trilogy - No Reality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC7l0LptPUE (Shanie - Miss My Face (Dillinja rmx))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPXU21fNEMM (Ed Rush & Fierce - Locusts)

Lol, I think that might be why I feel a little jaded, even the jump-up back then was done the right way. Not to say the new stuff is crap, it came back STRONG back in 2008 with the real warped, drippy, night-time type stuff that Loxy was pushing and even before that with Spirit, Skitty, and a handful of other people starting....2005ish maybe? All the same though I'm not sure what it was - if it was just that particular time in history and people are now more open minded to dnb or what.

fraac wrote:
The above, being actual good music, couldn't persist above ground for long and got replaced in the public consciousness by breaks (originally from London but New York popularised it):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCBL33NKvPA[/youtube]

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I don't understand that at all. There's no swagger to that at all, no slip or trick to the beats.

The death I was more familiar with was, essentially, Pendulum. Bright, buzzy, wizzy Halloween noisemakers and Fisher Price keys - ie. Clownstep. That's one of the things Dieselboy went over to and, IMO, never really recovered from.


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19 Dec 2011, 9:26 pm

"Actually in the days or Roni Size's Reprazent you had so much other stuff going on."

Yeah but nobody knew about it who wasn't already listening - that was my point.

Dom & Roland did a clownstep track I really liked, but generally drum and bass did have a lot of dead ends. But so much variation too!



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19 Dec 2011, 10:09 pm

I dislike most, but there are exceptions.