Radiohead - AS?
There was a thread about this earlier, I think, but can't seem to find it. It was titled "Radiohead - The definitive aspie band" or something like that.
For a band, does Radiohead's music seem to come across as Aspie-ish to anyone? I mean, a lot of us seem to identify with their songs. Even beyond the song 'Creep', their lyrics, mood, and melodies seem to have that sense of a lack of "belonging here", and the melancholy because of that. Just listening to OK Computer, 'Paranoid Android', 'Subterranean Homesick Alien', and other songs seemed to have this feeling.
Especially with Kid A, though it's not really the lyrics in that case.
And both Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood seem kind of aspie-ish. Not necessarily the other members of the band, but I'm sure at least one of them comes close to it.
Not jumping to any conclusions, but does anyone else who listens to Radiohead get this?
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It must be a matter of perspective, or the way music emotes in our brains is just different. I find most of the rock and pop music that gets played on the radio excruciatingly bland and emotionless.
Radiohead are my favourite modern band, so my opinion is a little skewed.
Musically and lyrically, very few groups create anything that speaks to me on the same level that Radiohead do.
I must have listened to In Rainbows hundreds of times. That album should be sold as an alternative to meds for anyone feeling isolated or low.
Not jumping to any conclusions, but does anyone else who listens to Radiohead get this?
Thom Yorke comes across as very Aspie in interviews, as well as in his song-writing. Jonny Greenwood is a definite candidate when you consider his pursuit of all things musical. Obsession doesn't even begin to describe his ability with multiple instruments.
Not jumping to any conclusions, but does anyone else who listens to Radiohead get this?
Thom Yorke comes across as very Aspie in interviews, as well as in his song-writing. Jonny Greenwood is a definite candidate when you consider his pursuit of all things musical. Obsession doesn't even begin to describe his ability with multiple instruments.
Or maybe he's just passionate about music.
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I'm certain he is passionate about music, but that degree of practical knowledge seems almost inhumanly obsessive to me and I'm hardly joe normal when it comes to pursuit of musical creativity.
But I certainly would not suggest that alone constitutes reason for a diagnosis. I just find the possibility intriguing. If they were both diagnosed they would make great ambassadors for AS.
This is an excellent point, but that has been the case with bands and musical styles down the years. However, the original question was not "Do people generally associate culturally with bands?" or "Do a large percentage of people feel disatisfied or out of place?". This is apparent with minimal observation.
Very few artists appeal to my specific brand of 'misfitting' than Radiohead do. Are they the definitive Aspie band? Yes, in my opinion. Could this be down to one or more of the group having AS? Arguably, yes.
There is a clear case for Thom Yorke having AS. He appears to 'stim' on stage, he seems very 'aspie-awkward' in interviews and has documented obsessions that fit the condition. If he did have AS it might explain the apparent affinity that aspies seem to have with their music.
This is an excellent point, but that has been the case with bands and musical styles down the years. However, the original question was not "Do people generally associate culturally with bands?" or "Do a large percentage of people feel disatisfied or out of place?". This is apparent with minimal observation.
The question is on whether the themes of Radiohead's music are particular to AS, and whether one may gather that certain members have AS themselves. I wouldn't rule out the latter, but I don't find it all that apparent. The former I just don't see. Maybe people with some mental illness or strong phobia that also makes them social misfits can relate to the lyrics of many of their songs.
The OP asked:
And my answer to this is a categorical 'yes', as the music does come across as 'Aspie-ish' to me.
I would not presume to argue that the music of Radiohead does not appeal to anyone without AS, but the themes and lyrics of much of their work has clear associations that I suspect all aspies can relate too.
In much the same way, a hip-hop artist might appeal to a larger percentage of black inner-city youths than white middle class people from Norfolk. If I then discovered a clique of Norfolk public schoolboys who were fans of black music it would not lead me to suggest that the themes within hip-hop are less relevant to those black youths.
But if you don't see it then you don't see it. Your opinion is not 'wrong', it just differs from my own.
The OP asked:
And my answer to this is a categorical 'yes', as the music does come across as 'Aspie-ish' to me.
I would not presume to argue that the music of Radiohead does not appeal to anyone without AS, but the themes and lyrics of much of their work has clear associations that I suspect all aspies can relate too.
In much the same way, a hip-hop artist might appeal to a larger percentage of black inner-city youths than white middle class people from Norfolk. If I then discovered a clique of Norfolk public schoolboys who were fans of black music it would not lead me to suggest that the themes within hip-hop are less relevant to those black youths.
But if you don't see it then you don't see it. Your opinion is not 'wrong', it just differs from my own.
1. You can't diagnose someone you've never met.
2. A lot of people have some of the symptoms of Asperger's, but don't actually have it. Most of the symptoms of Asperger's overlap with other mental disorders.
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