I want to write a story about the Nazi camps

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17 Jul 2019, 9:25 am

The Holocaust is one of the most horrific events in human history. My trauma psychologist was interred as a toddler. His parents were killed, and he earned his PhD helping Holocaust victims with Complex PTSD, yet he remains too distressed to discuss what he knows. These people and their descendants do not want the story fictionalised. They don't even want to read accounts of the horror in History books, as it is very distressing, very real, and very traumatic to their recovery. Scholars spend years researching this topic with primary source material, so not to do a disservice to anyone's experience.



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17 Jul 2019, 9:28 am

We have to make sure that NOBODY EVER FORGETS the Holocaust...…

But we also have to be sensitive to people who have experienced it first hand---or close to first hand.



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17 Jul 2019, 9:29 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
We have to make sure that NOBODY EVER FORGETS the Holocaust......


That's why scholars spend years doing research, and the topic isn't fictionalised to read like Stephen King.



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17 Jul 2019, 9:31 am

The scholars have done an incredible job.



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17 Jul 2019, 9:58 am

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Thanks for your ideas, guys.

It's OK, I know how dreadful those Nazi camps were. And I don't know zero about it. I've watched lots of videos on YouTube and have looked up a lot about it on Google, and I may buy one or two books about it to really educate me further. I do want to get the facts right.

I was going to write a story about the workhouses that took place in Britain back in the 1800s or early 1900s (I think), but I know even less about that than I do the Nazi camps, so I think I'm going to stick to writing about the Nazi camps.

I'm not too keen on writing about a fictional traumatic event, as I want to write about an existing traumatic event that can really remind the reader who is interested in that sort of thing how awful and shocking it was. A lot of people I know read books, and they seem more impressed when the story explains some very intense detail that shocks or frightens them, if they are looking for that kind of genre. Stephen King has become popular by writing his books.

I do a lot of fanfiction writing, but I want my story to be original this time, but about a real event that happened in history.


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Please ..from now on...NEVER mention Stephen King in the same breath as nonfiction about the Holocaust


Um.... Apt Pupil https://stephenking.fandom.com/wiki/Apt_Pupil


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19 Jul 2019, 2:06 pm

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Please ..from now on...NEVER mention Stephen King in the same breath as nonfiction about the Holocaust


All right, jeez! :oops: :roll:

I know how shocking the Holocaust was. Well, I have an idea of how shocking it was, I suppose I don't know the depth of it because I wasn't born then, I was born in the times where there were no wars in Europe, and I never even knew about the Holocaust until adulthood. They didn't teach us about it in school.

But I can understand how awful and terrifying it was to be in those Nazi camps. That is why I freak out when people on WP think that autistics are going to be forced into them in the future, for whatever reason. I get terrified of that thought.


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19 Jul 2019, 2:14 pm

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Please ..from now on...NEVER mention Stephen King in the same breath as nonfiction about the Holocaust


All right, jeez! :oops: :roll:


Just in case you didn't know , we do have Jewish members Joe.


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19 Jul 2019, 4:59 pm

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Please ..from now on...NEVER mention Stephen King in the same breath as nonfiction about the Holocaust


All right, jeez! :oops: :roll:


Just in case you didn't know , we do have Jewish members Joe.


I did know, or at least assumed. I wasn't offending, I was just talking about books and authors, not exactly what they're about. I just meant that Stephen King got famous by writing gory horror stories for people who seek that sort of genre, and so there are also people out there who seek disturbing non-fiction history like the Holocaust and will buy books that are based solely on that. I was not comparing Stephen King stories to factual history.


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19 Jul 2019, 5:21 pm

Joe90 wrote:
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Please ..from now on...NEVER mention Stephen King in the same breath as nonfiction about the Holocaust


All right, jeez! :oops: :roll:


Just in case you didn't know , we do have Jewish members Joe.


I did know, or at least assumed. I wasn't offending, I was just talking about books and authors, not exactly what they're about. I just meant that Stephen King got famous by writing gory horror stories for people who seek that sort of genre, and so there are also people out there who seek disturbing non-fiction history like the Holocaust and will buy books that are based solely on that. I was not comparing Stephen King stories to factual history.


I had no problem with what you said Joe.

Stephen King has used the history of the Holocaust in one of his novella's - Apt Pupil.

'The Holocaust' is a trigger for a lot of people so miscommunications can happen if you are not perfectly clear what you are talking about..


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19 Jul 2019, 7:06 pm

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I'd like to write a story about the Nazi camps in WW2, like through a child's eyes, about a Jewish boy and his family being lured to the concentration camps believing it is going to be a life of luxury then finding out how it really is, and putting lots of emphasis into the story about how bad it was. But I have very little knowledge on what actually happened; how all the thousands of Jews got there and what they did once they were there and how long they were there for before they died or the end of the war.

I have looked up information on Google but it's still too complicated for me to take in, also I find it hard to focus on reading. I have lots of questions that I want answered specifically but simply.

Does anyone here, maybe with a special interest in this sort of thing, perhaps know bits of information that I can write a story with?

In the beginning of the story, I want the reader to be as none the wiser as the characters as what's going on. The reader gets misled into thinking that the characters are off on holiday or something, then start to realise throughout the story that it is obviously no holiday.
So I want the story to start off as a normal Jewish family living their normal lives until they receive...whatever lured them all to the concentration camps.

Was it a false advertising campaign where Jews received a brochure fooling them into joining some sort of luxury adventure club or exotic holiday?
I know lots of people were packed on trains, but when they first arrived to the Nazi camps were they tortured straight away, if not, how long did it take for them to realise how horrific it was?
What did the Nazi soldiers do to the children? Were they separated from their parents?
What sort of work did all the prisoners (children and adults), do each day?

I'm not sure whether to have the main characters escape at some point and go on to live their lives. But I just need some information on how the camps were, then we'll worry about the escape part later.

Thank you for your input.


By far the most unbiased, accurate, and detailed account on film that I've ever seen is here:

- thegreateststorynevertold.tv

Unfortunately, there is too much subjective info about that period of history, that's why it's challenging to research overall.

However, that documentary collected what is authentic and presents an open minded view for truthful conclusions.


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19 Jul 2019, 7:22 pm

Oh Great! Look what you've done now Joe , you've brought a holocaust denier to the forum , or you've made a member here create a sock puppet :roll:


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19 Jul 2019, 9:00 pm

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Oh Great! Look what you've done now Joe , you've brought a holocaust denier to the forum , or you've made a member here create a sock puppet :roll:


Huh? :?


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19 Jul 2019, 9:45 pm

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Oh Great! Look what you've done now Joe , you've brought a holocaust denier to the forum , or you've made a member here create a sock puppet :roll:


Self righteous indignation and assumption of facts not in evidence is one approach, but that's your choice of course :jester:

As we're all free to share our points of view :idea:


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19 Jul 2019, 9:52 pm

Joe90 wrote:
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Oh Great! Look what you've done now Joe , you've brought a holocaust denier to the forum , or you've made a member here create a sock puppet :roll:


Huh? :?


Nothing to worry about, this type of reaction and behavior is common for the subject whenever open minded dialog is even suggested.

Let alone offered and alternatives considered, because having any deviation from the script is forbidden apparently :!:


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19 Jul 2019, 11:10 pm

TheStigOnline wrote:
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Oh Great! Look what you've done now Joe , you've brought a holocaust denier to the forum , or you've made a member here create a sock puppet :roll:


Self righteous indignation and assumption of facts not in evidence is one approach, but that's your choice of course :jester:

As we're all free to share our points of view :idea:


I know this is going to derail the thread, but please explain what you meant by, "assumption of facts not in evidence?" Is that to mean the Holocaust doesn't have facts backing it up?


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