Aspies and school shootings. [*fiction*]

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27 Mar 2008, 7:35 pm

MikeH106 wrote:
How many of you know how it feels to want to commit suicide? It's an awful feeling.


Suicide is competely different from committing cold calculated mass murder. :evil:



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27 Mar 2008, 7:36 pm

MikeH106 wrote:

How many of you know how it feels to want to commit suicide? It's an awful feeling.


I know how it feels to find your best friend has successfully committed suicide.



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27 Mar 2008, 7:58 pm

I don't want to shock too many of you, but lately I've been feeling that way. What upsets me is that although doing so would crush my family, I've remained unhappy.

I've been hearing these stupid voices in my head that do nothing but call me names. They have absolutely no influence on my moral values or attitude toward the world, and serve only to distract me. Yet I hear them. They're like little bullies who follow me around and tease me during my normal daily activities. Can you imagine how that must feel? To be completely sane and yet hear namecalling in your head every day?



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28 Mar 2008, 8:37 am

MikeH106 wrote:
I don't want to shock too many of you, but lately I've been feeling that way. What upsets me is that although doing so would crush my family, I've remained unhappy.

I've been hearing these stupid voices in my head that do nothing but call me names. They have absolutely no influence on my moral values or attitude toward the world, and serve only to distract me. Yet I hear them. They're like little bullies who follow me around and tease me during my normal daily activities. Can you imagine how that must feel? To be completely sane and yet hear namecalling in your head every day?


I have those same little cretins living in my head. I like it better when there are tens of thousands of them and all I can hear is the murmur of the crowd, rather than the individual voices.

I don't know if this thought will have any affect for you, but I've found that good sleep helps and best of all, if I can get myself into doing something that I'm really interested in, the voices are easier to ignore because I'm too occupied to hear them.

I think that my desires to shoot up the world, so to speak, have successfully been countered by a stronger sense of self preservation. Not that I would care if I ended up dead so much, but more the thought, I'm such a screw up regularly, what if I ended up maimed and disfigured by acting on that, shot up and brain damaged and in jail, rather than just free and crazed. So... I've never done anything.

I have to admit though, that as I've gotten older, the constant riddling thought that I'm a screwup has been replaced as I've learned and mastered different competencies. The better I become as a person, the less that overriding thought of lack of value can exist.



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28 Mar 2008, 9:46 am

I judge if I had access to weapon in time when I was attending my primary school, probability of massacre taking place there one day would be about 10%-15% and I'm not telling this to shock anyone but to objectively judge possibility of such an event occuring. I often spinned such a fantasy in my head but only in "what if" scenario form. I'm glad I'll never meet some people from my primary school.


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26 Jan 2010, 5:39 pm

I could see a school shooter who is holding the school hostage and the only person brave enough to fight back is the Aspie, and he fights back by taking out the shooter with a car. After he does that everybody calls him a hero and likes and respects the Aspie.


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26 Jan 2010, 5:48 pm

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There actually is a way to write a book with a similar premise without evoking as much controversy.

Rather then the character diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome being the shooter, why not make him a hero?

He is teased and ridiculed by his peers at school and when he overhears the shooter discussing his plans, no one believes him. However, when the shooting actually happens he finds himself hiding just a few feet behind the shooter and instead of freezing up he lunges for the shooter and wrestles him to the ground unarmed saving many lives. His peers who once teased and ridiculed him now consider him the greatest hero ever to have come to the school. Perhaps he is even awarded a local scholarship that normally goes to the star of the football team (who ironically happens to be the person who ridicules him the most).

Your original premise portrays Asperger's Syndrome in a negative light. If you really want to write a book that will help people with Asperger's Syndrome, something closer to my premises would work out much better.


This is an excellent idea.



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27 Jan 2010, 4:40 am

If my parents wouldn't have taken me out of public school to homeschool me when they did, I probably would have been the real life version of your character so I can relate. My stupid phytrast at the time wrote about the bullying in her notes and "desires for revenge were clearly expressed" but she like everyone else continued to blame me for it. If I would have stayed in public school, I would probably have brought worldwide attention to our tiny Ohio town by going on a rampage and seeking out spefic teachers and kids, shooting them and then shooting myself. Yes PLEASE continue with it. Hopefully it will get the message out to the public. I'd continue with making him the shooter, somethimes tragety is the only way to get people's attention.


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27 Jan 2010, 9:12 pm

PunkyKat wrote:
If my parents wouldn't have taken me out of public school to homeschool me when they did, I probably would have been the real life version of your character so I can relate. My stupid phytrast at the time wrote about the bullying in her notes and "desires for revenge were clearly expressed" but she like everyone else continued to blame me for it. If I would have stayed in public school, I would probably have brought worldwide attention to our tiny Ohio town by going on a rampage and seeking out spefic teachers and kids, shooting them and then shooting myself. Yes PLEASE continue with it. Hopefully it will get the message out to the public. I'd continue with making him the shooter, somethimes tragety is the only way to get people's attention.


Maybe the phytrast was an idiot. Schools don't really care about bullying even after school shootings.


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27 Jan 2010, 9:59 pm

PunkyKat wrote:
If my parents wouldn't have taken me out of public school to homeschool me when they did, I probably would have been the real life version of your character so I can relate. My stupid phytrast at the time wrote about the bullying in her notes and "desires for revenge were clearly expressed" but she like everyone else continued to blame me for it. If I would have stayed in public school, I would probably have brought worldwide attention to our tiny Ohio town by going on a rampage and seeking out spefic teachers and kids, shooting them and then shooting myself. Yes PLEASE continue with it. Hopefully it will get the message out to the public. I'd continue with making him the shooter, somethimes tragety is the only way to get people's attention.


I think that putting the antagonist as having AS does more damage than good; it also doesn't seem to have a place in the motion of your story.

PunkyKat... while I understand that you have undergone trauma in your life, that doesn't exempt you from being responsible for your actions. If you had chosen to take your revenge on others, it would not be their fault - it would be your responsibility.


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28 Jan 2010, 8:12 pm

greengeek wrote:
PunkyKat wrote:
If my parents wouldn't have taken me out of public school to homeschool me when they did, I probably would have been the real life version of your character so I can relate. My stupid phytrast at the time wrote about the bullying in her notes and "desires for revenge were clearly expressed" but she like everyone else continued to blame me for it. If I would have stayed in public school, I would probably have brought worldwide attention to our tiny Ohio town by going on a rampage and seeking out spefic teachers and kids, shooting them and then shooting myself. Yes PLEASE continue with it. Hopefully it will get the message out to the public. I'd continue with making him the shooter, somethimes tragety is the only way to get people's attention.


Maybe the phytrast was an idiot. Schools don't really care about bullying even after school shootings.


Looking back, she was. A big one.

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PunkyKat wrote:
If my parents wouldn't have taken me out of public school to homeschool me when they did, I probably would have been the real life version of your character so I can relate. My stupid phytrast at the time wrote about the bullying in her notes and "desires for revenge were clearly expressed" but she like everyone else continued to blame me for it. If I would have stayed in public school, I would probably have brought worldwide attention to our tiny Ohio town by going on a rampage and seeking out spefic teachers and kids, shooting them and then shooting myself. Yes PLEASE continue with it. Hopefully it will get the message out to the public. I'd continue with making him the shooter, somethimes tragety is the only way to get people's attention.


I think that putting the antagonist as having AS does more damage than good; it also doesn't seem to have a place in the motion of your story.

PunkyKat... while I understand that you have undergone trauma in your life, that doesn't exempt you from being responsible for your actions. If you had chosen to take your revenge on others, it would not be their fault - it would be your responsibility.


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I still think you should go with your original ideas. I fail to see how it would have been my fault or responsibility, they were the ones that drove me too it. Thankfully I was taken out before anything could get worse but I'm still screwed up in the head because of it.


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29 Jan 2010, 6:13 pm

I'd love to read the story with the original ending. I wouldn't tone anything down to appease the masses. School shootings are already portrayed in a negative manner. People blame music, video games, etc. The least you can do is explain the psyche of a school shooter in a fiction novel. I don't think the main character being AS would put AS in a negative spotlight considering how diverse the community is. It's fiction after all. Chuck Palahniuk wrote a book that was Columbine inspired. Are all NT's school shooters? Let your creativity flow to the extreme and be as controversial as possible. You're bound for a cult hit this way.



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30 Jan 2010, 1:55 am

TheHaywire wrote:
I'd love to read the story with the original ending. I wouldn't tone anything down to appease the masses. School shootings are already portrayed in a negative manner. People blame music, video games, etc. The least you can do is explain the psyche of a school shooter in a fiction novel. I don't think the main character being AS would put AS in a negative spotlight considering how diverse the community is. It's fiction after all. Chuck Palahniuk wrote a book that was Columbine inspired. Are all NT's school shooters? Let your creativity flow to the extreme and be as controversial as possible. You're bound for a cult hit this way.


What he said.


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30 Jan 2010, 7:46 pm

Because, PunkyKat, their actions do not absolve you for responsibility for your own. If someone attacks you, there is nothing that mandates that you attack back - that is your own choice.


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15 Feb 2010, 4:14 pm

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If you would ever bother to be less self-centered and look beyond English language, your statement would be without of any factual weight.... ;-)) I am not trying to offend you - just comment!