Women Are Rarely Direct With You About Not Being Interested

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I reacted well. "I'm so sorry," and she accepted my apology, and I thought I handled things about as well as I could, like you said not my fault, not knowing. Then as I was leaving her story--trying to complete my getaway from the "scene of the crime" she calls out: "Sir, you forgot your package!"

Oh yeah, that was my pretext for coming in the shop, wasn't it? I was glad to get the package though. It was my consolation prize.

As for women making out well in divorce -- Well, of course. And yes, people divorce pretty casually for whatever reasons- adultery being common, and the instigating factor in my marriage, and I was not at fault. Even in states that even care about adultery anymore, even there you have to prove it, I guess with semen stains on a bedsheet or hidden camera video?

The person that gets the raw end of the stick is the one that earned the most income. I don't know how often that is the woman or whether courts actually are impartial as to gender. It seems to me the woman will always be favored in court in any case unless there are truly egregious circumstances. We live in an anti-man society now.

Very interesting. I also heard that in Iran, education is considered very important for women and most people can speak english. It's nice to see another Middle eastern person here btw.

I may be wrong but I think it's just for friendzoning more guys because they are measuring their own attractivity on that and may be their social state. Not even few women like to rely on other people for their own advantages even if they don't consider them for mating. They can't keep a guy around them once they are rejecting him pretty harsh. If they are really disliking a guy then most women are pretty direct. In the end it's up to the guys to make themself their toys until they find someone really hot. Right?

I think this is interesting. Men in my experience are also not direct. For example, if you only want to have sex, why not say so? Why pretend there is an interest in me? Just be direct. Out of 100 hundred women, at least one will just want to have sex. I do not like games in order to determine interest. Men find my directness uncomfortable, as I say upfront I don't have sex with people I don't love or that I need for things to move slowly. I am also honest that we either connect or we don't, so for me, I just prefer to hang out as friends and see if there is anything there without the pressure of anything. I think being indirect and using manipulation as a means to access sex or intimacy or attention or whatever is not something that is sex-based. You are either honest and direct or not. Men or women engage in this.

Because saying, "Hey, y'wanna f███?" is just plain rude, and "Shall we engage in mutual coital activity?" seems too damned formal, even for me.

The English speaking world as a whole is by & large rubbish at innuendo. We've been very poorly equipped linguistically.

If she never makes an effort to get back to you that's being direct, she's not interested.

That means a lot of us are more direct than we're ever given credit for!

If you are on tinder it's easy to say, I am just looking to hook up or friends with benefits. Short and simple! Don't manipulate to get into anyone's pants.

I do not personally know any straight guys that are only interested in sex and do not want a relationship. Granted, I don't know many people that well. I read that all the time on women's profiles and it seems to be this stereotype that women have about men.

I know about three straight guys well. Me, my brother, and boss. So that's the world as I am aware of it. All of us are relationship-oriented, even my brother that never married. He has been with a woman that is about twenty years older for the last 5 years or so.

What I suspect happens is that guys are willing to date and spend time with women they don't actually like and are not even that much attracted to, in order to have sex, because they find that exciting.

That seems risky / unfair to me though, and at any rate I get attached to people and really feel bad about cutting things off.

I met a woman two months ago that I was not attracted to. For one thing, she opened up a bottle of liquor 5 minutes into the date. Anyone that knows of me on this forum knows how I feel about drinking. That, to me, was a deal-breaker. I don't know of anything else that could trigger me so fast as that. I mean, 5 minutes into the first date.

However, I felt bad about telling her no more dates and cutting things off, because in other ways she seemed nice, and also, she has a pretty good body.

I am now slowly getting involved on a friendship level with a woman I am not attracted to, but I have kept that as clear as I can and have not led her on or played any games. I simply feel the need for a friend. I've always been honest I think, including in my profiles.

I am a man who can only make love with a woman with whom I have a high regard.

Hi, I don't mean to imply that men are like this, I mean that people are like this in general for lots of things, sex, money, attention, intimacy, and so on. They are just not direct. It's to me not about sex, it's about the person. I have experienced this and because I am so honest and direct it is really painful when someone is pushing you into something through manipulation regardless of what it is. I also don't like drinking, dishonest too is a major turn-off overtly or covertly. I realize that in general I more direct than most people anyway, so I might prefer this more than other people. My BF I think appreciates it. If I am being honest I think everyone that loves me does and may love me for this reason.

I'm sure he appreciates it; he's your boyfriend

For now haha at least

I've known some women to be very direct with guys that they're not interested in.

Oh yah people do seem to be great manipulators although they sometimes succeed in deceiving also themselves along with their prey. It is the way to success as a liar, to actually believe in the lie, and at the point it has a certain amount of truth in it. The line gets blurry...

I have also noticed that women work in a metaphorical wedding ring into conversation early on. "Wedding ring" is just symbolic shorthand for "I am taken," not necessarily legal marriage. For instance the above, "My BF I think appreciates it." I often find that women I am talking to will mention their husband pretty early in any conversation with me. What are the odds, you think, that this is a coincidence?