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DanielW
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09 Jul 2023, 11:49 am

Plenty of short men don't have any problems dating. You know what is unattractive about short men? their insecurity - especially when they lie about their height.



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09 Jul 2023, 12:06 pm

DanielW wrote:
Plenty of short men don't have any problems dating. You know what is unattractive about short men? their insecurity - especially when they lie about their height.



These days I am always honest about my height compared to 17 years ago when I would claim 6ft :lol:



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10 Jul 2023, 1:33 pm

It is incontrovertible that shorter men have a harder time attracting women than tall men do.



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10 Jul 2023, 2:55 pm

rse92 wrote:
It is incontrovertible that shorter men have a harder time attracting women than tall men do.



Don’t women also want there partner to see their children grow up (tall men die on average younger than shorter guys). Kind of makes me wonder why women see it is an evolutionary advantage to select tall men when actually short stature is correlated with longevity.

I used to know this 6ft5 man who died back in 2004 of sudden death syndrome and left behind his wife and 2 children.



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10 Jul 2023, 4:35 pm

Then don't approach women at bars or clubs.

Bars and clubs tend to be heavily looks oriented. For one thing, people usually don't go there to find a long term partner; they go there to get laid and to hookup. And in any short term type of relationship, there is a greater emphasis on looks.


If you want to meet a woman, you should be playing to your strengths. If you're ugly or look like a nerd, then maybe bars arne't your best bet. Instead, join social circles that are related to your interests and you'd probably have better results.



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10 Jul 2023, 4:40 pm

DanielW wrote:
Plenty of short men don't have any problems dating.



The short men who are successful play to their strengths and have positive qualities about themselves that offset their short height.

Someone who is 5 ft 6 but facially attractive, has a decent body, and very good social intelligence, will likely still have a relatively easy time finding a girlfriend. He may not be picking up girls at bars but he has the required social competence to meet a woman at a local kickball league as an example.


The short men who struggle typically have other negative qualities about themselves which also compounds on their height disadvantage. If you're 5 ft 6, but also ugly, shy, and introverted, you're going to have a hard time.



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10 Jul 2023, 4:42 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
Then don't approach women at bars or clubs.

Bars and clubs tend to be heavily looks oriented. For one thing, people usually don't go there to find a long term partner; they go there to get laid and to hookup. And in any short term type of relationship, there is a greater emphasis on looks.


If you want to meet a woman, you should be playing to your strengths. If you're ugly or look like a nerd, then maybe bars arne't your best bet. Instead, join social circles that are related to your interests and you'd probably have better results.




What about ‘pubs’ though do you think there good places to find a partner?



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10 Jul 2023, 4:47 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
DanielW wrote:
Plenty of short men don't have any problems dating.



The short men who are successful play to their strengths and have positive qualities about themselves that offset their short height.

Someone who is 5 ft 6 but facially attractive, has a decent body, and very good social intelligence, will likely still have a relatively easy time finding a girlfriend. He may not be picking up girls at bars but he has the required social competence to meet a woman at a local kickball league as an example.


The short men who struggle typically have other negative qualities about themselves which also compounds on their height disadvantage. If you're 5 ft 6, but also ugly, shy, and introverted, you're going to have a hard time.




I was under the impression that short men like 5’6 can’t have aesthetically pleasing bodies compared to tall guys like 6’1.



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10 Jul 2023, 4:59 pm

The best place to find a partner depends on your overall personality, strengths, and challenges.


Write down a list of qualities about yourself including your age, physical appearance, interests, and values. And then look in places where women are more likely to find these qualities attractive.

For example, let's say you're a 25 year old devout Christian man. Your best bet for meeting a woman would be at a church. This is because you're more likely to meet women with your shared values and the type of women who find christian men appealable would likely be at a church.


If you're a 20 year old who's extroverted and likes to drink beer and watch sports, then join a fraternity or meet women at bars because women who share these similar values are more likely to frequent these places hence they are more of a compatible match.



Figure out the kind of person you are and then look in places where women might find your type attractive.



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10 Jul 2023, 5:02 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
The best place to find a partner depends on your overall personality, strengths, and challenges.


Write down a list of qualities about yourself including your age, physical appearance, interests, and values. And then look in places where women are more likely to find these qualities attractive.

For example, let's say you're a 25 year old devout Christian man. Your best bet for meeting a woman would be at a church. This is because you're more likely to meet women with your shared values and the type of women who find christian men appealable would likely be at a church.


If you're a 20 year old who's extroverted and likes to drink beer and watch sports, then join a fraternity or meet women at bars because women who share these similar values are more likely to frequent these places hence they are more of a compatible match.



Figure out the kind of person you are and then look in places where women might find your type attractive.




Surely women under average height don’t stand out much in nightclubs either when surrounded by taller women?



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10 Jul 2023, 5:36 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
Figure out the kind of person you are and then look in places where women might find your type attractive.
Hmm . . . unemployed, lives with parents, obsessed with physical appearances, heavy drinker, and an Aspie . . .

A bar/pub is as good a place as any.



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10 Jul 2023, 11:40 pm

Fnord wrote:
Muse933277 wrote:
Figure out the kind of person you are and then look in places where women might find your type attractive.
Hmm . . . unemployed, lives with parents, obsessed with physical appearances, heavy drinker, and an Aspie . . .

A bar/pub is as good a place as any.



So drinking beer once or twice a week counts as a heavy drinker?



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11 Jul 2023, 4:58 am

Jamesy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Muse933277 wrote:
Figure out the kind of person you are and then look in places where women might find your type attractive.
Hmm . . . unemployed, lives with parents, obsessed with physical appearances, heavy drinker, and an Aspie . . .

A bar/pub is as good a place as any.



So drinking beer once or twice a week counts as a heavy drinker?


Depends on how much you drink on those days.

But since most of your posts seem to deal with your misadventures at the pub, I can understand why Fnord would have gotten that impression.


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11 Jul 2023, 5:21 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Muse933277 wrote:
Figure out the kind of person you are and then look in places where women might find your type attractive.
Hmm . . . unemployed, lives with parents, obsessed with physical appearances, heavy drinker, and an Aspie . . .

A bar/pub is as good a place as any.



So drinking beer once or twice a week counts as a heavy drinker?


Depends on how much you drink on those days.

But since most of your posts seem to deal with your misadventures at the pub, I can understand why Fnord would have gotten that impression.




I do tend to have one too many beers on the one day I do go out. I usually drink 3.5 percent lager (bud light) and occasionally stronger beers.



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11 Jul 2023, 5:56 am

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. . . since most of your posts seem to deal with your misadventures at the pub, I can understand why Fnord would have gotten that impression.
I am glad someone understands.

It is one thing to stop by the pub to "have one with the boys" and socialize.

It is quite another to "have one too many" and make a nuisance of one's self.

Some of Jamesy's posts seem to have implied more of the latter than the former.



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11 Jul 2023, 6:08 am

Fnord wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
. . . since most of your posts seem to deal with your misadventures at the pub, I can understand why Fnord would have gotten that impression.
I am glad someone understands.

It is one thing to stop by the pub to "have one with the boys" and socialize.

It is quite another to "have one too many" and make a nuisance of one's self.

Some of Jamesy's posts seem to imply more of the latter than the former.



You like to insult me don't you fnord?