Didn’t come as a surprise that he was a virgin!

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07 Jul 2022, 9:12 pm

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I'm pretty "beta."

Not many women have found me "repulsive."
I don't know what material you've read, or what lies you've told, but I must give credit where it's due: I wish I knew before age 18 what you knew. Or maybe you looked simply plain, rather than disgustingly hideous like I did.

Back at age 21, I clearly remember going to a plastic surgery consultation. I liked how my new face looked on the computer simulation the doctor showed me. But with the $10,000 cost and the 6-week aftercare, having it done was just plain unaffordable. (Plus, I lived with my parents back then, so I'd have a hard time explaining THAT hospital stay to them.)



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07 Jul 2022, 9:14 pm

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What kind of nonsense is this?

How can “not disclosing one’s virginity” be “rape by deception”?

I challenge anyone to provide justification for this supposition; otherwise, I would believe someone making that association is some sort of troll.

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Autisitcs who are afraid of lying about being autistic for fear of being charged with rape by deception are called "Not sneaky enough" by the legal system.

Response to both of you:

No trolling intended. There are no virgin alpha males over 18, if not 15, plain and simple. The "deception" comes from a beta male misrepresenting himself as an alpha male. It's comparable, although not identical, to learning the Red Pill. After all, alpha males are lustfully desired; beta males are found repulsive. Also, women want natural-born alphas, not betas who read certain websites. No woman these days knowingly has sex with a beta male unless it's absolutely necessary.



I prefer betas, not that I really believe in the concept of alphas and betas to begin with.

You are doing nothing but making sweeping generalizations which aren’t always true (or probably even usually true).



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07 Jul 2022, 9:17 pm

Rather than making long posts about theories, it might be a good idea to go out and try meeting people. You might even meet a woman who thinks all of this nonsense is nonsense, and you could have a chance with her, as long as you don’t start giving long monologues about what women “actually” want.



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07 Jul 2022, 9:35 pm

Well as for the notion of alpha and beta types, I hear that alpha males do not like alpha females generally, and so maybe beta males might do better with alpha females perhaps therefore?



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07 Jul 2022, 9:38 pm

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Well as for the notion of alpha and beta types, I hear that alpha males do not like alpha females generally…


Where did you hear this? Is it based on valid research?

People are way more complicated than that. There are too many variables involved to categorize people and to know who they will or won’t be attracted to.

One needs to get out there and meet people and stop worrying about this nonsense which only brings with it a defeatist attitude.



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07 Jul 2022, 9:41 pm

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Well as for the notion of alpha and beta types, I hear that alpha males do not like alpha females generally, and so maybe beta males might do better with alpha females perhaps therefore?
No, you're mistaken. There's no genetic alpha/beta divide among women. All women are people in their own right, regardless of their genetic makeup. (Wow! That's more woke than toppling statues was in 2020!)



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07 Jul 2022, 9:46 pm

Oh I just heard it from guys when they say they have had trouble in dating, because the woman was too much of an 'alpha female' or so some guys have used that term.



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07 Jul 2022, 9:48 pm

ironpony wrote:
Oh I just heard it from guys when they say they have had trouble in dating, because the woman was too much of an 'alpha female' or so some guys have used that term.


This is code for: they were dumped but are putting their own spin on it to save face around other guys.



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07 Jul 2022, 9:49 pm

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Oh I just heard it from guys when they say they have had trouble in dating, because the woman was too much of an 'alpha female' or so some guys have used that term.


In those contexts they're using it to refer to 'dominant personalities' instead of how red pill ideology co-opted the term.

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This is code for: they were dumped but are putting their own spin on it to save face around other guys.


Also, this.


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07 Jul 2022, 9:52 pm

Oh yes, those points make sense. Thanks.



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07 Jul 2022, 9:54 pm

ironpony wrote:
Oh I just heard it from guys when they say they have had trouble in dating, because the woman was too much of an 'alpha female' or so some guys have used that term.
The terms "alpha" and "beta" are used for women, but they're personality descriptors, not genetic identifiers like for men.

For instance, the sleeve-tattooed woman I met on a cruise 3 years ago was very much "alpha", but she treated me with respect and deference, despite bantering with me a little. Ditto for the woman I French-kissed at a QAnon party 2 years ago. At the same time, my current female friends are largely "beta", as I can't maintain a sassy persona with "alpha" women long-term.



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07 Jul 2022, 10:08 pm

Are guys who go from bad boys to dads ending their alpha testing stage and advancing to beta testing? :nerdy:


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07 Jul 2022, 10:15 pm

If all this was genetic, I would have been an “alpha” man. Both my father and brother would have been “Chads” according to the Incel ideology.



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07 Jul 2022, 10:17 pm

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If all this was genetic, I would have been an “alpha” man. Both my father and brother would have been “Chads” according to the Incel ideology.


I’m usually a beta, but I’m more of an alpha online, so I’m an alphabet(a).



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07 Jul 2022, 10:20 pm

I don't have a letter because I'm an illiterate barbarian. :jocolor:


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07 Jul 2022, 10:30 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I've known many "experienced" people who were really not all that proficient in sexual matters; and I've known relatively inexperienced people who were quite proficient.

I'm sure those people exist, but that doesn't change the fact that inexperienced people are generally going to need time and experience before they reach the level of sexual proficiency that is expected from the average experienced person.

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Rather than making long posts about theories, it might be a good idea to go out and try meeting people. You might even meet a woman who thinks all of this nonsense is nonsense, and you could have a chance with her, as long as you don’t start giving long monologues about what women “actually” want.

If it was that easy for us guys on the spectrum to meet someone and make that connection, we probably wouldn't be posting here about virginity and struggles finding a partner.

There don't seem to be a lot of viable avenues for finding romantic partners in this day and age, and us guys on the spectrum face additional challenges with the onus being placed on men to initiate courtship and correctly read whether the woman is interested or not. Skills that are of course often deficient in autistic individuals.

I wish it really was as easy as just going outside and being fortunate enough to meet someone.