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01 Jan 2012, 7:12 am

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For me personally going to a bar brought out every negative or what was perceived as negative attribute that I had.


I agree, I don't think nightclubs or bars are the best place for people on the spectrum in general, I find that community classes or parks tend to be the best types of places to meet someone and they are free too. Also I don't drink or smoke so there would be a conflict of interests because I don't go out to clubs, I don't think I could go out with someone who drinks or goes to clubs or bars on a regular basis.

There are also other issues for people on the spectrum when it comes to clubs such as sensory overload or not being able to process everything, perhaps some people on spectrum can tolerate clubs or even enjoy it after they have lowered their inhibitions but it's not something I would reccomend for everyone on the spectrum, if it works for some, that's good but personally I'm not into the clubbing scene.



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01 Jan 2012, 2:43 pm

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I agree, I don't think nightclubs or bars are the best place for people on the spectrum in general


I gather that nightclubs are hellish places for people with ASDs. The rowdier, noisier pubs won't be much better either. However, they aren't all like that. If you have an interest in good beer and you can find a very geeky real ale pub a lot of your problems will fade away in that sense. No two pubs are the same.

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Also I don't drink or smoke so there would be a conflict of interests because I don't go out to clubs, I don't think I could go out with someone who drinks or goes to clubs or bars on a regular basis.


I drink but it is almost always at home these days.

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There are also other issues for people on the spectrum when it comes to clubs such as sensory overload or not being able to process everything, perhaps some people on spectrum can tolerate clubs or even enjoy it after they have lowered their inhibitions but it's not something I would reccomend for everyone on the spectrum, if it works for some, that's good but personally I'm not into the clubbing scene.


No, I agree. I almost certainly think I wouldn't be either.



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01 Jan 2012, 3:18 pm

I have been lucky that I have some good mates you know 'how to work a nightclub/bar' and will look out for me if ever I did get into any trouble. But yes I can understand that most nightclubs are not a good place for us aspies to be going to, due to the loud music, lights and (Drunk/Drugged up) people around, and that a lot of them are very crowded and not much room to move. Also I don't really like dancing so normally end up on the sides.

One thing I dislike is that some clubs you have to pay extra to go outside for a smoke (I don't smoke but like to go outside for fresh air) and you only have a time limit to spend outside.

I do find pubs better places to be, normally because you can sit down and relax in a pub



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03 Jan 2012, 12:04 am

Thanks for the tips but not sure clubbing is the right environment.



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03 Jan 2012, 12:14 am

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One thing I dislike is that some clubs you have to pay extra to go outside for a smoke (I don't smoke but like to go outside for fresh air) and you only have a time limit to spend outside.


I've heard of so many stories of nightclubs treating their punters like crap in that sense - like cattle and not like people - that I really have to wonder why a lot of people bother with them. There are better places to spend one's money.

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I do find pubs better places to be, normally because you can sit down and relax in a pub


Yes; a quiet English pub and a rowdy American bar are not the same thing.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:11 am

1) Don't go to them.

It's served me very well, that rule.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:13 am

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I've heard of so many stories of nightclubs treating their punters like crap in that sense - like cattle and not like people - that I really have to wonder why a lot of people bother with them. There are better places to spend one's money.


Charlie Brooker is right on the ball with this point...

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I'm convinced no one actually likes clubs. It's a conspiracy. We've been told they're cool and fun; that only "saddoes" dislike them. And no one in our pathetic little pre-apocalyptic timebubble wants to be labelled "sad" - it's like being officially declared worthless by the state. So we muster a grin and go out on the town in our millions.

Clubs are despicable. Cramped, overpriced furnaces with sticky walls and the latest idiot theme tunes thumping through the humid air so loud you can't hold a conversation, just bellow inanities at megaphone-level. And since the smoking ban, the masking aroma of cigarette smoke has been replaced by the overbearing stench of crotch sweat and hair wax.

Clubs are such insufferable dungeons of misery, the inmates have to take mood-altering substances to make their ordeal seem halfway tolerable. This leads them to believe they "enjoy" clubbing. They don't. No one does. They just enjoy drugs.

Drugs render location meaningless. Neck enough ketamine and you could have the best night of your life squatting in a shed rolling corks across the floor. And no one's going to search you on the way in. Why bother with clubs?

"Because you might get a shag," is the usual response. Really? If that's the only way you can find a partner - preening and jigging about like a desperate animal - you shouldn't be attempting to breed in the first place. What's your next trick? Inventing fire? People like you are going to spin civilisation into reverse. You're a moron, and so is that haircut you're trying to impress. Any offspring you eventually blast out should be drowned in a pan before they can do any harm. Or open any more nightclubs.

Even if you somehow avoid reproducing, isn't it a lot of hard work for very little reward? Seven hours hopping about in a hellish, reverberating bunker in exchange for sharing 64 febrile, panting pelvic thrusts with someone who'll snore and dribble into your pillow till 11 o'clock in the morning, before waking up beside you with their hair in a mess, blinking like a dizzy cat and smelling vaguely like a ham baguette? Really, why bother? Why not just stay at home punching yourself in the face? Invite a few friends round and make a night of it. It'll be more fun than a club.


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03 Jan 2012, 6:13 am

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I agree, overpriced, waste of money and cramped, based on presentation and dancing, the last place for someone like me. I can't dance, I can't read body language well at all, I don't enjoy drinking, I don't have a good fashion sense and I hate crowds. Perhaps nightclubs are alright for some people on the spectrum but I personally don't find them appealing.



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03 Jan 2012, 12:10 pm

If you are carrying around a glass of coke with ice in it, nobody is going to know it's just a coke and not a bourbon and coke, or rum and coke.

It doesn't have to be a beer.


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03 Jan 2012, 12:16 pm

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If you are carrying around a glass of coke with ice in it, nobody is going to know it's just a coke and not a bourbon and coke, or rum and coke.


They will if they smell your breath or smell the drink.



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03 Jan 2012, 1:43 pm

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Here are my opinions and observations. Other members of this community are encouraged to post their rules, tips, advice, opinions, etc about how to correctly go to clubs and bars to meet people from the opposite sex.

I am a guy, so I cannot speak for women, so I will speak from a male perspective.

1. Dress well, depending on the place. Wear something that is mature, but not preppy or overdoing it. Ideally, a button-down casual shirt (perhaps plaid, with undershirt and/or no "popped collars", jeans, clean casual shoes, combed hair, groomed, wearing a little bit of cologne, and perhaps a good watch. No outerwear, things will get too sweaty.


Dress well at a bar, club or party?..........i thought those where occasions to dress more extreme lol. Then again I probably cannot afford to go to any bars/clubs that would require nice dress and I don't really know any upper class people who would invite me to a party so I think my typical attire or whatever I feel like wearing would suffice.


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03 Jan 2012, 2:45 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
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I agree, overpriced, waste of money and cramped, based on presentation and dancing, the last place for someone like me. I can't dance, I can't read body language well at all, I don't enjoy drinking, I don't have a good fashion sense and I hate crowds. Perhaps nightclubs are alright for some people on the spectrum but I personally don't find them appealing.
Same with me .I can't dance and don't drink.I have a hard time deciphering body language.I have a hard enough time trying to figure out if a woman is interested in me under the best circumstances[just the two of you talking in a quiet environment] let alone in a crowded bar with strangers with loud music.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:33 pm

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Dress well at a bar, club or party?..........i thought those where occasions to dress more extreme lol. Then again I probably cannot afford to go to any bars/clubs that would require nice dress and I don't really know any upper class people who would invite me to a party so I think my typical attire or whatever I feel like wearing would suffice.


Depends on what part of the world you're in, in the United Kingdom, the apparel tends to be shirt, shoes and trousers and most places will turn you down if you aren't wearing shoes.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:40 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
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Dress well at a bar, club or party?..........i thought those where occasions to dress more extreme lol. Then again I probably cannot afford to go to any bars/clubs that would require nice dress and I don't really know any upper class people who would invite me to a party so I think my typical attire or whatever I feel like wearing would suffice.


Depends on what part of the world you're in, in the United Kingdom, the apparel tends to be shirt, shoes and trousers and most places will turn you down if you aren't wearing shoes.


Well that is rather vauge that sounds like typical attire of most people in the U.S as well.


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03 Jan 2012, 5:01 pm

I don't like that some clubs/bars you have to dress like your going to a wedding, I am not a big fan of wearing shoes unless it's for something special, I prefer my trainers. Also anyone noticed over the last couple of year the 'sailor look' that people are starting to go for?



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03 Jan 2012, 5:05 pm

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Well that is rather vauge that sounds like typical attire of most people in the U.S as well.


I can think of a few more - no jeans and often no football colours either, especially on match days, in major cities and particularly in Scotland and much of Northern Ireland.