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The way their muscles are structured - isn't it awful? This guy looks like he can't walk properly, can't use his arms for much more than weight lifting, and could be defeated by a middle school kid in a fight. He's probably the male version of a woman with severe anorexia - unhealthy, hardly attractive but convincted that what he's doing is cool.

I know, getting a body like Katy Perry or Adriana is just a matter of losing body fat, whereas Cena is a matter of low body fat in addition to putting on slabs of muscle mass. You could probably get a body like the two women (as a woman) in about 6 months to a year provided you aren't too high on the body fat, whereas Cena's would require the same diet as for the females, plus 200+g of protein per day, 3 - 5 days of weight training, plus what is likely going to be a "shedload" of winstrol or dbol.

It was kind of a snide jokey comment though.

Steroids shmeroids, in reasonable doses and supported by an MD its not a problem. But then, what Coleman does is the equivalent of taking 2 bottles of aspirin for a headache.

This thread must've been troll bait just for our resident militant feministas.

You might have better results spreading your "message" if you weren't snarling and frothing at the mouth while doing so.

lol. well said. feminism is turning more and more into misandry (manhate). Though i love how she puts it in quote marks to make it sound like a fallacy when most of her posts are promoting that idea

Pro bodybuilders today generally never go off-cycle; they're always using something, allthough they vary their supplements throughout the year.

Generally speaking, even if you do not want to look like Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler, getting an impressive physique still takes a lot of dedication. Hugh Jackman spent 15 months of very dedicated weighlifting to get his Wolverine-physique (8% bodyfat and a BMI of 25); he's a mesomorph with an excellent set of genetics and was in a pretty good shape even before he prepared for this role.



Quite frankly, I don't think it's a snide jokey comment. You never see men complaining about the much more demanding physical standards that are presented to us, but you often see women complaining that it's "so hard" to reach a body fat level between 20-23% and a mediocre level of muscle mass.

Most types of steroids (eg. Dianabol) aren't meant to be taken more than 2 x 6 weeks a year. Many wrestlers do steroids all the year, as they're expected to maintain their physiques pretty much all the time. This is why many wrestlers (eg. Jeep Swenson or Eddie Guerrero) meet an early death. For comparison, many of the 60's and 70's bodybuilding legends (Frank Zane, Sergio Oliva, Bill Pearl, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Dave Draper, to mention a few) are still alive and in good physical condition.

A supervised, controlled dosage of Dianabol, will at the most give you 10-12 lbs of raw muscle. It doesn't perform any miracles, but it's a tempting shortcut.

I suppose the complaining by the women comes from them feeling like the standards are enforced harder on them. IE they are expected to look like Katy Perry while men can look pretty much how they want. Perhaps women are judged harder and suffer harsher consequences for not adhering to the "Katy Perry" standard, or perhaps they merely perceive it this way.

Male standards by for instance underwear models who tend to be sub 7% bf, with in some cases substantial amounts of muscle mass is a much harder goal to reach. Currently, I should lean out (10 - 12% BF) at around 90kgs if the measurements are correct, which means that with my frame-size I need to put on about another 10 - 15 lbs of muscle to hit 210 lbs which is roughly where I want to be.

Currently I'm doing between 45 and 90 minutes of steady state cardio per day, plus 4 days of weight training, with an additional 5th day some weeks.
I agree, a cycle here and there is tempting just because the time it takes to gain 10 - 12 lbs of muscle is cut by so much due to both faster recovery times and higher protein synthesis. On a sidenote, Zane had probably what I'd consider as the "perfect" physique in terms of proportions and appearance.

I don't think any sane person would say that this is harder to accomplish



Than this

also need to be fair that the reason women have such high beauty standards is because of their passive role in dating and the way of making sch a thing work is to fight against each other for attention (peacock style)

The question though, who enforces them, it seems like this is an "arms race" of sorts between women.