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30 Nov 2012, 5:16 pm

^^*hugs*


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30 Nov 2012, 5:18 pm

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^^*hugs*


You've hugged me twice now.

**BIG HUGS!!** :D



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30 Nov 2012, 5:33 pm

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AspieOtaku wrote:
^^*hugs*


You've hugged me twice now.

**BIG HUGS!!** :D
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30 Nov 2012, 5:58 pm

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^Unfortunately, Esther, some of us can know all the right things to say and do and STILL end up being screwed with the opposite sex.

Yeah I'm not 30 years old yet but I'm calling it quits, mainly because nothing I try or do or say is ever good enough. It's worked so far though, so I'll keep doing what I'm doing, and just focus on gaming and work.
all due respect ive seen yousay a lot off cute girls liked you marfans and all lol.


Only 3 or 4 and they are in relationships or I can't/won't date them for some other reason (usually dealbreakers like a crappy personality). So they don't exist as potential dates at all. The tables are never in my favor where I can meet someone who isn't in a relationship, who I might like, and who might like me back. I know somebody will see this and say "well one of those girls might break up with their boyfriends or something!" but my life doesn't work that way, I'm afraid. It never has and never will. The one girl who has been showing interest apparently tried to kill herself when her boyfriend broke up with her, and now they're back together. So imagine what would happen if I ended up with her somehow. Not only would work be awkward (her and her b/f work at the same place I do) but I don't wanna be responsible for drama either.

I've literally tried everything too. Online dating, just randomly going somewhere, meetings, groups for my hobbies, and nothing has turned up. That's a sign for me to bury the hatchet and forget about it.


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30 Nov 2012, 6:23 pm

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I would say it is not true that women will invest no effort. What I would argue is that women don't want to be in a caregiver relationship.

I don't think it's impossible to give up on women. Sometimes though, you have to step back and examine your efforts. What can be done differently?
Yep, women invest alot of effort into relationships. And yes, we don't want to be the "caregivers." It's not 1950 any more. We expect men to be capable of taking care of themselves.


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30 Nov 2012, 10:16 pm

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I don't know what else to do. I don't really want to give up on women, but I see little other option, being 30 and clueless with women; never had any kind of relationship (not for lack of wanting one). Let's be realistic, no one is going to give a guy in some of our positions here, a chance. Coping with forced celibacy in my 30s will be far worse than it ever was in my twenties. It was hard watching everyone else couple up then, but at least I had some hope I'd meet someone eventually. It's only downhill from here on in. Now everyone's going to be pairing up seriously, and getting married, and having kids around me. I am not sure how much longer I can hold it together.

I don't think you can completely give up. It's hardwired. The desire for closeness and intimacy. Even if your brain is telling you no, your heart is telling you yes. I've felt suicidal at times because of my total failure with women, and my inability to get any kind of closeness.

Anyone else flirted with the notion of giving up entirely?

Im in the same situation only instead of it being women, its men for me.


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30 Nov 2012, 10:53 pm

DialAForAwesome wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
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^Unfortunately, Esther, some of us can know all the right things to say and do and STILL end up being screwed with the opposite sex.

Yeah I'm not 30 years old yet but I'm calling it quits, mainly because nothing I try or do or say is ever good enough. It's worked so far though, so I'll keep doing what I'm doing, and just focus on gaming and work.
all due respect ive seen yousay a lot off cute girls liked you marfans and all lol.


Only 3 or 4 and they are in relationships or I can't/won't date them for some other reason (usually dealbreakers like a crappy personality). So they don't exist as potential dates at all. The tables are never in my favor where I can meet someone who isn't in a relationship, who I might like, and who might like me back. I know somebody will see this and say "well one of those girls might break up with their boyfriends or something!" but my life doesn't work that way, I'm afraid. It never has and never will. The one girl who has been showing interest apparently tried to kill herself when her boyfriend broke up with her, and now they're back together. So imagine what would happen if I ended up with her somehow. Not only would work be awkward (her and her b/f work at the same place I do) but I don't wanna be responsible for drama either.

I've literally tried everything too. Online dating, just randomly going somewhere, meetings, groups for my hobbies, and nothing has turned up. That's a sign for me to bury the hatchet and forget about it.
you should f**k the ones with a bad personality.


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06 Dec 2012, 7:09 pm

apparently it seems so



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06 Dec 2012, 7:51 pm

Why not try to have a relationship in order for you to know if you love having it in your life.



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07 Dec 2012, 2:49 am

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Why not try to have a relationship in order for you to know if you love having it in your life.


The only problem with that is that people like Adam and myself have to find a girl willing to be the other person in that relationship.


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07 Dec 2012, 8:03 pm

I think I've posted this before, but regardless of how much it hurts, I figure I can't give up. Our ancestors going back to the origin of life didn't struggle for survival and reproduction so that the likes of us could just give up.



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07 Dec 2012, 8:20 pm

I'm 20 and already want to throw in the towel. If I can't find anyone in college how am I expected to take on the real world.

It's not the women that are the problem, it's just the f****d up dating scene. People apparently have nothing better to do than to engage in dating drama, at least where I live anyway. Hopefully, we will find another planet with life on it and hopefully I can relate to them better.



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07 Dec 2012, 8:47 pm

DialAForAwesome wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
^Unfortunately, Esther, some of us can know all the right things to say and do and STILL end up being screwed with the opposite sex.

Yeah I'm not 30 years old yet but I'm calling it quits, mainly because nothing I try or do or say is ever good enough. It's worked so far though, so I'll keep doing what I'm doing, and just focus on gaming and work.
all due respect ive seen yousay a lot off cute girls liked you marfans and all lol.


Only 3 or 4 and they are in relationships or I can't/won't date them for some other reason (usually dealbreakers like a crappy personality). So they don't exist as potential dates at all. The tables are never in my favor where I can meet someone who isn't in a relationship, who I might like, and who might like me back. I know somebody will see this and say "well one of those girls might break up with their boyfriends or something!" but my life doesn't work that way, I'm afraid. It never has and never will. The one girl who has been showing interest apparently tried to kill herself when her boyfriend broke up with her, and now they're back together. So imagine what would happen if I ended up with her somehow. Not only would work be awkward (her and her b/f work at the same place I do) but I don't wanna be responsible for drama either.

I've literally tried everything too. Online dating, just randomly going somewhere, meetings, groups for my hobbies, and nothing has turned up. That's a sign for me to bury the hatchet and forget about it.


Crappy personality? Seems a bit unfair. Crappy how? Maybe you should give them a chance. After all, to the world, most of us have either crappy personalities or completely fake personalities or something in-between. As for that other girl, I've tried to kill myself before, too. That whole NT deal breaker/checklist concept is a load of NT horse s**t. I have been in relationships despite a crappy personality and a hideous voice. I ask myself two questions: am I attracted? Do I like her? Not "she doesn't fit item #5 on my list."

You have a job. That puts you in the top tier of aspie men, so you can worry less about the gender disparity and focus on aspie girls. But you might not be able to accept them. I think your problem is you expect people to accept you as you are, but then you don't extend the same courtesy to other people.



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07 Dec 2012, 10:12 pm

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....*hugs Ann2011 then runs away giggling and blushing!!*


*hugs you back* :wink:


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07 Dec 2012, 10:18 pm

Crappy personality as in mean, spiteful, will not accept me as I am, etc. Do you honestly expect me to accept people being mean to me? :lol: That makes no sense whatsoever.

I am nowhere near the top tier of aspie men. Plenty of aspie men can and have gotten jobs in their field/special interest. I can't do that because my special interest is really obscure. On top of that I work a dead end minimum wage job. That's worse than not having a job, I figure, but that's not a discussion to get into right now. With aspie girls you run the risk of getting ones who have touch aversion, aversion to affection, etc. which is why I don't seem to go for them that much (though I am not opposed to the idea at all otherwise and generally can't really tell an aspie girl from an NT girl anyway IRL).


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08 Dec 2012, 12:56 am

Dude... seriously? Giving up is never an option. I'm in the same boat as you, albeit 9 years younger, and I absolutely won't pretend to be any kind of expert on women... but one thing I have noticed is that even guys that have absolutely nothing going for them can get dates if they are confident in themselves. I know, I know, it's the hardest damn thing in the world to believe in yourself, I have my troubles with it too, every single day. But, I've noticed that a negative attitude is the biggest turn-off ever. And a positive one the biggest turn-on.

I have a good friend, and I'll just say that he is an incredibly strange guy. He's kind of weird-looking too. Yet, he rarely finds himself lonely, bored, frustrated, or any of the things we experience every day. The reason for this, as he'll tell you, and as I believe, is that this guy is consistently happy. Even if he's having the worst day ever by normal people's standards, this guy finds something to be happy about. Lately, I've been trying to go by his outlook on life, and I have actually seen some good results. It's been difficult, and I've for sure slipped back into the pessimistic way of thinking occasionally, especially with some things that have gone on in my life in the past week or so. But trust me, even if you don't see any results romantically, it will at least make you feel a LOT better.