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24 Mar 2014, 10:31 am

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I am falling in love with Wind


Oh no, not another one... :lol: :P


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24 Mar 2014, 10:36 am

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I don't think it's hate, it's that's many of them want a partner to just magically appear without any effort on their part.


This, a thousand times. Some people have serous, deep-seated issues. Not willing or can't learn about and acquire the traits that make it possible to be in a relationship with another human being.

I've lived a long time and I've learned that men who hate, dislike, have a bad attitude about or are hostile towards women make terrible partners. Ladies, they will abuse you and unleash their rage onto you. Run, ladies, run.


Yeah, pretty much this. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people in the spectrum are functional enough to be aware of where they should be as an adult, but also unaware of how to go about doing it. Take two or three decades of that, and something's got to give.



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24 Mar 2014, 2:24 pm

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To that lil' local group of aspie PUA wannabees that decided to dehumanize me & make me into a game piece this past Summer. Well, thanks for that.. Rolling Eyes I had more than enough of my own problems @ that time. I didn't need anymore. Mad (& I really Don't like men in their 20's. 'Never have, never will. Not even when I was in my teens & 20's.) I was never condescending or rude to you. Maybe you respect mean people more?
To the Leader of the pack -Yup, I really did like you until you became a major part of the problem & you know what they say. "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." I don't know what the 'rules' where in that game. All I know is: Rebels aren't pawns. If you want to Pizz Off a rebel, just try & play them. Maybe Confused you did actually like me @ one time, but after all that weirdness, & creepiness, it doesn't count for much. I now know that you enjoy manipulating & hurting people & that's about all I will ever know about you. It's not a nice remembrance.


Did you want to make a thread just so you could write about this?

[i] No. It's a combo of reading very upsetting things here & putting this info together with what happened. Some guys want to have dates & relationships, but they can't for what ever reasons. We see that here @ WP all the time. So, let's kick someone's a$$, (But make sure they are not a town big shot or related to a cop.) It's called bullying in the real world. Here it an excuse for rotten behaviour. I have depression issues. does this give me license to dehumanize others? No! But if I'm on the [i]spectrum, I can get a free pass to be a jerk, hate women, & do s**t that NT people could not get away with. It's called 'using a health problem as an excuse to be a spoiled A:hole. [/i][/i]

DRAMA LLAMA. :lol: Why didn't you talk to these people in a personal message? They would probably feel bad and respect you more for messaging them about it, rather than whining in a thread.

WTF Wind! I know that they show up this board, stay for a few weeks, & get another identity & start posting as someone else. I know nothing about them really. You can't nail down a ghost, & that's their strategy. Being jerks & taking no responsibility for it.
Drama Lllama yourself, Wind. If it happened to you, you would be pretty upset about it!


It's Love and Dating, full of a lot of ASD's that don't see what they're doing wrong, so saying this isn't really helping.

Who's to say? Maybe it's helping me. A lot of things get said here that are decided Unhelpful to anybody, not even the poster.

There's always going to be men who hate women here, and women who hate men. It's not even strictly an ASD/Love and Dating thing. I see lots of my NT male friends not liking girls because they've just fallen for the wrong girls, and are now 'damaged goods'.


[i][i][i] And that can't happen to NT women I guess, cuz we are so all powerful & cause all the problems? B.S.! ! 8O
Reading this board @ times is like inhaling toxic fumes.
I've gone through a period of stalking & following. Is it over? Who knows? It's NOT RIGHT! Do you even Get That? Cuz some self entitled *ricks decided that they needed something other than their computer games & porn to fill their mostly empty, partially employed days & evenings. I am not a hobby for the bored!

I was just saying that between this board & that nasty experience I'm pretty damaged right now. Do you get that? It's not very pleasant to be picked out as a victim, cuz they know that no one will defend you, help you, or ask them to back off. After being physically grabbed, & followed home by these jerks, NO! I'm not going to appeal to their sense of guilt. They don't have any. They are IMHO, guys that have had bad experiences with women & decided to get back @ somebody & that somebody was me. I didn't know any of them personally & didn't want to. I avoid them as best I can, but that's getting ridiculous.[/i][/i][/i]



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24 Mar 2014, 3:14 pm

I posted earlier that I hadn't come across any men that hate woman on here... I take that back. I just saw the "am I attractive" thread... jeez! I see what you mean!

I wouldn't want to have that vitriol directed at me, and though I'd brush it off, I can see how it would affect some girls/women. You have my genuine sympathy.

I would just like to defend Wind though.. maybe I'm seeing this a bit more dispassionately, but from the posts I've read, she shows a lot of the straight-talking yet compassionate qualities I admire so much in my god-daughter. ( sorry if this embarrasses you Wind!)


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24 Mar 2014, 3:15 pm

You are only making yourself a victim on this board by making replies like this. Please, try to think before posting, because you're posting when angry, and it's not looking good on your part, hence you are 'victimised'.

If you ignore these people, don't acknowledge them, they'll move on.

I was bullied throughout my school life, you're not the only person that's been bullied. I'd say 99% of this forum have been bullied, because we're 'different'.

I still get bullied and trolled online now, it's just what happens, and there's nothing you can do except ignore them. I've been stalked online, called out in random threads when I've not posted for ages and targeted for my mental health, you name it.
If they are bullying you online, report it to the moderators. Don't engage or acknowledge these people publicly.


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24 Mar 2014, 3:16 pm

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I posted earlier that I hadn't come across any men that hate woman on here... I take that back. I just saw the "am I attractive" thread... jeez! I see what you mean!

I wouldn't want to have that vitriol directed at me, and though I'd brush it off, I can see how it would affect some girls/women. You have my genuine sympathy.

I would just like to defend Wind though.. maybe I'm seeing this a bit more dispassionately, but from the posts I've read, she shows a lot of the straight-talking yet compassionate qualities I admire so much in my god-daughter. ( sorry if this embarrasses you Wind!)


No, that's a nice compliment, thanks :D I'm told a lot I don't beat around the bush haha.


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24 Mar 2014, 3:56 pm

We live in a sexist society, even after the feminist movement of the 60s and 70s. People have a very strange ideas about what woman are like. The media doesn't help. We aren't all the same we're individuals.,



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24 Mar 2014, 4:16 pm

NinsMom wrote:
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To that lil' local group of aspie PUA wannabees that decided to dehumanize me & make me into a game piece this past Summer. Well, thanks for that.. Rolling Eyes I had more than enough of my own problems @ that time. I didn't need anymore. Mad (& I really Don't like men in their 20's. 'Never have, never will. Not even when I was in my teens & 20's.) I was never condescending or rude to you. Maybe you respect mean people more?
To the Leader of the pack -Yup, I really did like you until you became a major part of the problem & you know what they say. "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." I don't know what the 'rules' where in that game. All I know is: Rebels aren't pawns. If you want to Pizz Off a rebel, just try & play them. Maybe Confused you did actually like me @ one time, but after all that weirdness, & creepiness, it doesn't count for much. I now know that you enjoy manipulating & hurting people & that's about all I will ever know about you. It's not a nice remembrance.


Did you want to make a thread just so you could write about this?

[i] No. It's a combo of reading very upsetting things here & putting this info together with what happened. Some guys want to have dates & relationships, but they can't for what ever reasons. We see that here @ WP all the time. So, let's kick someone's a$$, (But make sure they are not a town big shot or related to a cop.) It's called bullying in the real world. Here it an excuse for rotten behaviour. I have depression issues. does this give me license to dehumanize others? No! But if I'm on the [i]spectrum, I can get a free pass to be a jerk, hate women, & do sh** that NT people could not get away with. It's called 'using a health problem as an excuse to be a spoiled A:hole. [/i][/i]

DRAMA LLAMA. :lol: Why didn't you talk to these people in a personal message? They would probably feel bad and respect you more for messaging them about it, rather than whining in a thread.

WTF Wind! I know that they show up this board, stay for a few weeks, & get another identity & start posting as someone else. I know nothing about them really. You can't nail down a ghost, & that's their strategy. Being jerks & taking no responsibility for it.
Drama Lllama yourself, Wind. If it happened to you, you would be pretty upset about it!


It's Love and Dating, full of a lot of ASD's that don't see what they're doing wrong, so saying this isn't really helping.

Who's to say? Maybe it's helping me. A lot of things get said here that are decided Unhelpful to anybody, not even the poster.

There's always going to be men who hate women here, and women who hate men. It's not even strictly an ASD/Love and Dating thing. I see lots of my NT male friends not liking girls because they've just fallen for the wrong girls, and are now 'damaged goods'.


[i][i][i] And that can't happen to NT women I guess, cuz we are so all powerful & cause all the problems? B.S.! ! 8O
Reading this board @ times is like inhaling toxic fumes.
I've gone through a period of stalking & following. Is it over? Who knows? It's NOT RIGHT! Do you even Get That? Cuz some self entitled *ricks decided that they needed something other than their computer games & porn to fill their mostly empty, partially employed days & evenings. I am not a hobby for the bored!

I was just saying that between this board & that nasty experience I'm pretty damaged right now. Do you get that? It's not very pleasant to be picked out as a victim, cuz they know that no one will defend you, help you, or ask them to back off. After being physically grabbed, & followed home by these jerks, NO! I'm not going to appeal to their sense of guilt. They don't have any. They are IMHO, guys that have had bad experiences with women & decided to get back @ somebody & that somebody was me. I didn't know any of them personally & didn't want to. I avoid them as best I can, but that's getting ridiculous.[/i][/i][/i]


Are these jerks members here? I am totally confused. If yes, why don't you report them to the mods so they can escalate it to legal actions? I dunno, like maybe identifying them and sending info to the police....

And if they're not members here then why are you linking those jerks to the guys here ?



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24 Mar 2014, 4:46 pm

Guys, and gals... having had a private discussion with OP in the past, I can assure you all that these bullies are people that aren't on this website (to the best of my knowledge, or perhaps they came on this site later on).

And yes, there is some pretty toxic stuff on this forum as well. Not sure where I fit in on that, but I am aware of it.

We have threads in here constantly about how guys think girls have it easier. Then later on, we have another poster criticizing us guys and having others girls join in telling us what guys really mean when we say certain things. Quite frankly, I don't care who started it. It's an ongoing battle between men and women about who said what and who meant what. And where is the humility?

Just face it... people on this website absolutely suck for interpreting the opposite sex. Yet, for some reason, instead of acknowledging that so many men and women out there regardless of a disorder have problems understanding eachother, for some reason we "Aspies" believe we are the only ones with communication and understanding problems.


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24 Mar 2014, 5:06 pm

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Guys, and gals... having had a private discussion with OP in the past, I can assure you all that these bullies are people that aren't on this website (to the best of my knowledge, or perhaps they came on this site later on).

And yes, there is some pretty toxic stuff on this forum as well. Not sure where I fit in on that, but I am aware of it.

We have threads in here constantly about how guys think girls have it easier. Then later on, we have another poster criticizing us guys and having others girls join in telling us what guys really mean when we say certain things. Quite frankly, I don't care who started it. It's an ongoing battle between men and women about who said what and who meant what. And where is the humility?

Just face it... people on this website absolutely suck for interpreting the opposite sex. Yet, for some reason, instead of acknowledging that so many men and women out there regardless of a disorder have problems understanding eachother, for some reason we "Aspies" believe we are the only ones with communication and understanding problems.


People in general absolutely suck for interpreting the opposite sex, not just on this site but maybe most NTs learn to just stop interpreting anything and go with the flow :lol:.

Neurotically speaking, the differences in brain structure between men and women are probably even greater and more obvious than the brain differences between NTs and ASs of the same gender.

In general, men have 6 times the amount of gray matter related to general intelligence than women, and women have about 10 times the amount of white matter related to intelligence than men. Gray matter represents information processing centers in the brain, and white matter represents the connection between these processing centers.

So genders are probably more syndromes to each other than AS to NT.



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24 Mar 2014, 5:12 pm

I agree with you Boo that the difference between man and women is probably more defined that AS-NT. Reason being because most people not diagnosed with an ASD won't care all that much.

So what you are saying is the gray matter relates more to the practical side? White the emotional processing? Is that what you are getting at? That's how I'm interpreting it.


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24 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm

aspiemike wrote:
Guys, and gals... having had a private discussion with OP in the past, I can assure you all that these bullies are people that aren't on this website (to the best of my knowledge, or perhaps they came on this site later on).

And yes, there is some pretty toxic stuff on this forum as well. Not sure where I fit in on that, but I am aware of it.

We have threads in here constantly about how guys think girls have it easier. Then later on, we have another poster criticizing us guys and having others girls join in telling us what guys really mean when we say certain things. Quite frankly, I don't care who started it. It's an ongoing battle between men and women about who said what and who meant what. And where is the humility?

Just face it... people on this website absolutely suck for interpreting the opposite sex. Yet, for some reason, instead of acknowledging that so many men and women out there regardless of a disorder have problems understanding eachother, for some reason we "Aspies" believe we are the only ones with communication and understanding problems.


So then why is OP seemingly so mad at WP members, or threads?


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24 Mar 2014, 5:24 pm

Go and read the content of some of these threads that are posted in this subforum and some of the answers some women are getting from the Aspie men when they come in here wanting good advice. Mind you, we still have some people that want to enable bad behaviour among their bad boyfriends, but the honest ones that come here resent us, and rightfully so.


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24 Mar 2014, 8:43 pm

Wind wrote:
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I am falling in love with Wind


Oh no, not another one... :lol: :P


On the bright side, you get to have the pick of the litter. 8)



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24 Mar 2014, 10:56 pm

aspiemike wrote:
Go and read the content of some of these threads that are posted in this subforum and some of the answers some women are getting from the Aspie men when they come in here wanting good advice. Mind you, we still have some people that want to enable bad behaviour among their bad boyfriends, but the honest ones that come here resent us, and rightfully so.


Yeah, there are only about three members here who consistently post sexist crap (though who knows if they're aware enough to know they're doing it). Everyone else is either trying to be as supportive as they can, or lamenting their own horrible lives.



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25 Mar 2014, 12:38 am

hugs NinsMom

I don't hate women, I love them. I do get frustrated some times and depressed, then bounce back try again repeat. I don't generally hate anyone, even when mad I try not to say hurtful things cause I worry too much about hurting people. It can lead to it all being keep inside to maybe explode later, but cross that bridge when it comes lol .