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07 Jan 2016, 2:46 pm

Sabreclaw wrote:
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Okcuoid has data to show on average women receive tons of messages.

Anyways as a poor ugly guy I am really limited in women I am allowed to message.

Even the ones who liked me via the quick match function don't reply which just seems to further point to them all being mistake likes.

It's really annoying as they keep emailing me matches. On a personality, common interests and feelings on issues and morality I match up to a lot of women. But those things don't matter as much it seems.

You are not ugly! You are a handsome guy!!



Telling someone who believes they're ugly that they're not doesn't really change their perception. Trust me, I know.


I know too. I was trying to help.
My male friend thought he was ugly, I kept telling him he's cute, much later, he got a girlfriend.



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07 Jan 2016, 3:11 pm

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I joined OKCupid last night & since then I got 11 message. I'm talking to 4 men this morning.


...And people say women don't really have it easier. I wish people didn't have this ingrained "women get chased by men" program, it seems like it would be just as annoying for both sexes and causes a lot of anguish. Women get unwanted attention, or worse, and men have to be aggressive and fight for a relationship and constantly put themselves out there chasing after women who already have a wall up.

Plenty of men may try and fail attempting this. At the very least have to do something other than "just be yourself"...

A fairly basic part of my personality is that I need to be asked/invited/counted in. Thus I have about as much ability to follow this "chaser" kind of role as I do to fly without the aid of an aircraft.

I could could probably handle the "chased" role reasonably well. But in the society I live in that kind of "role reversal" isn't likely to happen. (There is not even any obvious social or political movement advocating it.)



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07 Jan 2016, 3:26 pm

Kitty4670 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Kitty4670 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Okcuoid has data to show on average women receive tons of messages.

Anyways as a poor ugly guy I am really limited in women I am allowed to message.

Even the ones who liked me via the quick match function don't reply which just seems to further point to them all being mistake likes.

It's really annoying as they keep emailing me matches. On a personality, common interests and feelings on issues and morality I match up to a lot of women. But those things don't matter as much it seems.

You are not ugly! You are a handsome guy!!



Telling someone who believes they're ugly that they're not doesn't really change their perception. Trust me, I know.


I know too. I was trying to help.
My male friend thought he was ugly, I kept telling him he's cute, much later, he got a girlfriend.


Who wants to be cute? Men want to be big and strong and charming and intimidating. Cute feels like a failure. At least as far as I'm concerned.

Regardless, I'm not discounting you for trying to help. But there is definitely a disconnect if people you're not trying to date tell you you're not ugly and yet the people you want to date seem to be avoiding you. Maybe he's the most dashing lad around, but if he's having no luck with dating he's gonna get negative thoughts. It takes a lot of work to build up self-esteem when your life seems like a long string of failures.



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07 Jan 2016, 5:12 pm

Sabreclaw wrote:
Kitty4670 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Kitty4670 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Okcuoid has data to show on average women receive tons of messages.

Anyways as a poor ugly guy I am really limited in women I am allowed to message.

Even the ones who liked me via the quick match function don't reply which just seems to further point to them all being mistake likes.

It's really annoying as they keep emailing me matches. On a personality, common interests and feelings on issues and morality I match up to a lot of women. But those things don't matter as much it seems.

You are not ugly! You are a handsome guy!!


Telling someone who believes they're ugly that they're not doesn't really change their perception. Trust me, I know.


I know too. I was trying to help.
My male friend thought he was ugly, I kept telling him he's cute, much later, he got a girlfriend.


Who wants to be cute? Men want to be big and strong and charming and intimidating. Cute feels like a failure. At least as far as I'm concerned.

Regardless, I'm not discounting you for trying to help. But there is definitely a disconnect if people you're not trying to date tell you you're not ugly and yet the people you want to date seem to be avoiding you. Maybe he's the most dashing lad around, but if he's having no luck with dating he's gonna get negative thoughts. It takes a lot of work to build up self-esteem when your life seems like a long string of failures.



Puppies are cute, men women want to date are handsome. Been told I'm cute in actions, and would make a great Fb yet none of them or any other women will date me :(

Women have flat out told me I'm unattractive, and people on Reddit am I ugly told me I'm ugly
Then there's the income and non manly problems. I'm not a real man and it seems no woman wants to date a sub human.

I'm not sure how to take being told I'm not ugly because so many say I'm ugly and few who said I wasn't later turned out to be lying. People often lie to try make people feel better so I'm not sure how to trust when people say good things.



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07 Jan 2016, 5:20 pm

Yeah cute = fail for men.
It's almost mockery.



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07 Jan 2016, 5:23 pm

Inb4 someone posts: "Cute men are awesome~~ :heart: !"...
No.
Cute AND handsome is okay. But just cute, no.



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07 Jan 2016, 5:25 pm

sly279 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Kitty4670 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Kitty4670 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Okcuoid has data to show on average women receive tons of messages.

Anyways as a poor ugly guy I am really limited in women I am allowed to message.

Even the ones who liked me via the quick match function don't reply which just seems to further point to them all being mistake likes.

It's really annoying as they keep emailing me matches. On a personality, common interests and feelings on issues and morality I match up to a lot of women. But those things don't matter as much it seems.

You are not ugly! You are a handsome guy!!


Telling someone who believes they're ugly that they're not doesn't really change their perception. Trust me, I know.


I know too. I was trying to help.
My male friend thought he was ugly, I kept telling him he's cute, much later, he got a girlfriend.


Who wants to be cute? Men want to be big and strong and charming and intimidating. Cute feels like a failure. At least as far as I'm concerned.

Regardless, I'm not discounting you for trying to help. But there is definitely a disconnect if people you're not trying to date tell you you're not ugly and yet the people you want to date seem to be avoiding you. Maybe he's the most dashing lad around, but if he's having no luck with dating he's gonna get negative thoughts. It takes a lot of work to build up self-esteem when your life seems like a long string of failures.



Puppies are cute, men women want to date are handsome. Been told I'm cute in actions, and would make a great Fb yet none of them or any other women will date me :(

Women have flat out told me I'm unattractive, and people on Reddit am I ugly told me I'm ugly
Then there's the income and non manly problems. I'm not a real man and it seems no woman wants to date a sub human.

I'm not sure how to take being told I'm not ugly because so many say I'm ugly and few who said I wasn't later turned out to be lying. People often lie to try make people feel better so I'm not sure how to trust when people say good things.



I firmly believe the best thing to do is to force your body to lose interest in romance. It's not easy, I've been trying for years to turn myself into an emotionless rock but I do have slip-ups where I start feeling alone and miserable for a few minutes before regaining my composure. But so long as I can keep myself busy I can be content with isolation. It's those nights where for whatever reason you're not tired so you lie awake in bed with too much time to think that things get troublesome.



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07 Jan 2016, 5:27 pm

Earthling wrote:
Yeah cute = fail for men.
It's almost mockery.


I've always wanted to be like a DBZ character. Shredded as all hell and having a crackling electric aura. :P



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07 Jan 2016, 6:47 pm

I'm f*****g cute.

I don't give a f**k about what any of you guys say.

:evil: Cuuuuute.



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07 Jan 2016, 7:31 pm

Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Kitty4670 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Kitty4670 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Okcuoid has data to show on average women receive tons of messages.

Anyways as a poor ugly guy I am really limited in women I am allowed to message.

Even the ones who liked me via the quick match function don't reply which just seems to further point to them all being mistake likes.

It's really annoying as they keep emailing me matches. On a personality, common interests and feelings on issues and morality I match up to a lot of women. But those things don't matter as much it seems.

You are not ugly! You are a handsome guy!!


Telling someone who believes they're ugly that they're not doesn't really change their perception. Trust me, I know.


I know too. I was trying to help.
My male friend thought he was ugly, I kept telling him he's cute, much later, he got a girlfriend.


Who wants to be cute? Men want to be big and strong and charming and intimidating. Cute feels like a failure. At least as far as I'm concerned.

Regardless, I'm not discounting you for trying to help. But there is definitely a disconnect if people you're not trying to date tell you you're not ugly and yet the people you want to date seem to be avoiding you. Maybe he's the most dashing lad around, but if he's having no luck with dating he's gonna get negative thoughts. It takes a lot of work to build up self-esteem when your life seems like a long string of failures.



Puppies are cute, men women want to date are handsome. Been told I'm cute in actions, and would make a great Fb yet none of them or any other women will date me :(

Women have flat out told me I'm unattractive, and people on Reddit am I ugly told me I'm ugly
Then there's the income and non manly problems. I'm not a real man and it seems no woman wants to date a sub human.

I'm not sure how to take being told I'm not ugly because so many say I'm ugly and few who said I wasn't later turned out to be lying. People often lie to try make people feel better so I'm not sure how to trust when people say good things.



I firmly believe the best thing to do is to force your body to lose interest in romance. It's not easy, I've been trying for years to turn myself into an emotionless rock but I do have slip-ups where I start feeling alone and miserable for a few minutes before regaining my composure. But so long as I can keep myself busy I can be content with isolation. It's those nights where for whatever reason you're not tired so you lie awake in bed with too much time to think that things get troublesome.


AKA every single night? And late afternoon?

Wish I had more things to occupy my time. I'm a recent high school graduate, job-seeking but not trying 'too hard' as my families moving within 6 months and don't want to get stuck here. I study no tertiary courses of any kind and other than chores/housework have nothing to consume my time with other than hobbies/interests, day-in, day-out.

I'm just lucky it's the school holidays so my younger siblings can stay up late and I can spend time with them on some nights...



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07 Jan 2016, 8:33 pm

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I'm f*****g cute.

I don't give a f**k about what any of you guys say.

:evil: Cuuuuute.

:thumright:



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07 Jan 2016, 8:37 pm

I've been called "cute" by some people. I don't mind...even if I'm a 55-year-old man.

It's better than being called an "old fart," that's for sure!



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07 Jan 2016, 9:20 pm

To me nothing is wrong with cute. My male friend was cute, he was just a friend.



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07 Jan 2016, 9:46 pm

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Inb4 someone posts: "Cute men are awesome~~ :heart: !"...
No.
Cute AND handsome is okay. But just cute, no.


Speaking as a female, cute is plenty great. Cute + butthead, no. Cute + compatible in other ways. Indeed.
Handsome? Meh. Not even sure what that is? But i think it's usually associated with 'you think you're more attractive than i do = super arrogance = no'

As for profiles and women having it easier, it goes both ways.

Women who don-t understand or play by the be coy, men chase rules, often lose. And how many hits a female gets - by a real person minus dickpics, also depends on **their picture**. Pretty girls? No doubt.. Studies show pretty people in general have everything easier...men and women. But women that don't look as the guy wanted or expected, or aren't good at being pretty/girly/feminine - but are straight..

No one (but pretties) has it easy in the land of dating..especially not anyone that is an outsider among outsiders. Male Or female.


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07 Jan 2016, 10:05 pm

People use the word cute for many things.
For example, when a girl's boyfriend brings her flowers as a surprise.
But then it's not meant as a description of physical features, it's meant to say "you are so thoughtful".
When it's used to describe a man's physical appearance, it can very well be an insult if the man is not extremely hot and it's completely obvious.

For physically unattractive males "cute" can be a trigger word.
Why?
Because "You're cute" said to a man by a woman generally means
1) "You're physically unattractive"
and/or
2) "You're friendship material"

It's similar to calling an overweight girl "fat".
Even if she's just a friend, you generally want to avoid calling her "fat" because it might trigger her to feel ugly.



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07 Jan 2016, 10:11 pm

One does not simply
call a grown man "cute"