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25 Sep 2016, 8:09 pm

I know "mentally disabled" people who are in relationships too (though i hesitate to use that term. ND is what I'd call them).

You never know who you'll meet. Aunt blabby keeps saying this, but it's true. The compatible people are more difficult to meet, but they are out there. It's just meeting them that's the really difficult part.

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25 Sep 2016, 8:16 pm

Peacesells wrote:

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Americas future?
Not enough "good " men for women. I see women all the time complain about the lack of men to date or marry. But there's tons of men they just don't meet the standards of good middle class man

Most people, rich or poor, have relationships.

Not where I live they dont
Women here won't date someone that doesn't have a good job, car and own place.

Even IF what you said were true, it doesn't give you the right to talk about America in general. If we talk about America in general (which you were) my statement is still correct. You can look at statistics if you don't believe me.
So yeah you can stick to talking about your weird city if anything.

America in general is very materialistic and getting worse. It's causing huge amounts of government and civilian debt that is unsustainable. Our societies collapse isn't a matter of if but when.
People here care too much about objects and looks and what's the new rage and not enough about people. The supposed shortage of men is nation wide and there's various studies and articles about it

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25 Sep 2016, 8:20 pm

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Sorry I simply don't see it, sure some do but not most. If it was most then wtf is so f****d yo about me and why should I keep living if every single poor or disabled perso. Can find love but I can't. But wp is proof that many if not most aspie men don't find love it's filled with lonely men complaining and looking. For love.

I'd used the r word. It's how I feel.

I've seen and met lots of compatible people but I'm not a real man so no matter how well we get along or how much w had in common it doesn't make up for my income and lack of car

Aunt blabby Is much stronger person
Amit no way I'm living that long single. If I don't have anyone in 2-3 years I plan to end it. Life for me is living hell and there's only so much more I can take. I'd give up everything I own and all my hobbies to have a gf. Non of it means s**t without someone to share it with. And the good years are almost gone I wouldn't want a relationship when I'm 35 or 70. Itd be too late by then

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25 Sep 2016, 8:30 pm

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Then you won't have trouble showing me a study or some statistics saying that poor men can't get into relationships nowadays, right?

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25 Sep 2016, 8:55 pm

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Then you won't have trouble showing me a study or some statistics saying that poor men can't get into relationships nowadays, right?

Google it.
Never said never . Nothing's impossible just highly improbable. Bet no one saw trump getting this close but they'd said it was highly improbable.

edit to go with short version

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25 Sep 2016, 9:10 pm

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Then you won't have trouble showing me a study or some statistics saying that poor men can't get into relationships nowadays, right?

Facts don't matter. He just says the same things over and over again no matter what anyone says to him or what evidence they show him to contradict what he believes. He's too committed to self-pity.

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25 Sep 2016, 9:20 pm

Same to you^
No ones every showed any evidence otherwise except hersay

I wish someone would help me without ignoring reality . Even women here said they won't date a guy unless he makes a certain amount so i don't get how you can inform reality and try to live in make believe word where everyone is treated kindly and money doesn't matter

This threads made me feel suicidal so I'm going try to ignore it.

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25 Sep 2016, 9:37 pm

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Lots of kind people here have tried to help you, but you don't want help, you just want negative attention. If you actually truly wanted help you would have let the people who care about you help you, but instead you ignore whatever they say or tell them that by expressing a desire to help you because they care about you they are personally attacking you and then you threaten suicide. It's the same thing over and over again. People who threaten suicide to emotionally manipulate others are abusive--lots of emotionally abusive people will do this when someone is trying to end their relationship, to make them stay out of guilt. It's very low and it makes people who have suicidal depression who don't use it as a weapon against others look bad by association. There are lots of people here who struggle with depression who don't need more stigma, so stop being the sort of person who adds to that stigma against the depressed and the suicidal by wielding your emotional problems as a weapon against others who try to help you.

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25 Sep 2016, 9:57 pm

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Google it.
Never said never . Nothing's impossible just highly improbable. Bet no one saw trump getting this close but they'd said it was highly improbable.

I couldn't find statistics about relationship status and money earned actually. You talked about these studies, can you show them?
Or can someone else find something on this topic?

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25 Sep 2016, 10:27 pm

My boyfriend has never had a job and is on SSI. I'm the one with the job. Again, I'm happy with this guy because he and I are incredibly compatible emotionally. So yes, it is possible for poor guys to end up in relationships.

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25 Sep 2016, 10:34 pm

In response to Peacesells, wilburforce and Sly:

The U.S. birth rate is at an all time low: http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/arti ... -than-ever

The U.S. single rate and single households now outnumber married households and is at an all time high:

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09-14/s ... good-thing

I'm not going to blame men or women for this, and there's a variety of factors and reasons, but I will point out statistically that more women attend and graduate university than men:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/d ... university

^This article in particular pi55e5 me off, because the women in the article are hypergamous and all complain they can't find men who are university graduates and even seem to believe men who aren't graduates are 'less intelligent' men.

It is in my anecdotal experiences most people, male and female, want someone at an equal 'level' as them economically, educationally, career-wise, success-wise, etc.

This of course leaves most aspie men in the dust.

The amount of young people attending and graduating university is on the rise, at least in the UK: https://fullfact.org/education/are-ther ... niversity/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10 ... 49313.html

Many aspie men and women can't live up to the expectations of SOME middle class N.T.'s who want someone at an EQUAL level of 'success' as they are, e.g. university graduates want other university graduates, those that can drive, live alone, work a job, etc. demand the same in a partner.

There's some evidence to the hypothesis that SOME men may be slightly more forgiving to SOME women than vice-versa, and in my anecdotal experiences this has been true.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/201 ... te-me.html

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Men seem to be more forgiving of the living arrangements. Nearly 40% of women say they wouldn’t date someone who lived with their parents compared to just 18% of men. This was true across the board, despite age, the survey shows

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25 Sep 2016, 11:04 pm

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Nice, but Sly was saying that poor men can't get into relationships in America nowadays. I coulnd't find any statistics about this. I think it's because most people actually get into relationships.

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25 Sep 2016, 11:06 pm

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It's also possible to win the lottery or be struck by lightning. All are improbable.
You're a rare woman and all those like you end up in relationships quickly and tend to stay happily in them. Leaving us men left with the superficial materialistic women who are upset they can't find men they deem good enough.

I read so many profiles where I have so much in common with them and it seems we'd be a good match but then they like you must have good job, car and own place etc. I'll be dead in few years like lots of men who kill themselves. Those women will have to live sad empty long lives because they couldn't see what could possible bee the best thing to happen to them right in front of them. People aren't objects we aren't all made perfect. The economy is crap. Middle class is shrinking every day and the gap between the poor and the rich have is growing. More and more people are becoming poor. Degrees and college education don't mean s**t or I and millions others would have well paid jobs. The whole society we live in is a big giant lie bubble waiting to pop.

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25 Sep 2016, 11:09 pm

I'm not going to talk to people who put words in my mouth that I never said. What I write is what I write any meaning you all believe you see is just in your head.

Poor men getting relationships is extremely improbable in this society where they are deemed as losers.

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25 Sep 2016, 11:34 pm

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When did I put words into your mouth?

Btw when I was working in a factory all of my young coworkers (we used to have 1-2 months contracts and for some months they don't even call you, surely not the best financial condition) had wifes/gfs or were at least getting hookups without a problem. I was the only one who couldn't get a gf to save his life.

Have you considered that it might be more about being weird in a way that drives away women?

Besides I didn't find these statistics about the enternally single, but if we look at virgin statistics (assuming that in most cases people in relationships have sex) the number is more or less even between men and women, it seems.

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26 Sep 2016, 12:02 am

In never said poor men can't get relationships and you said I did.
It's simply improbable, highly unlikely. Women today in us society would rather have a man who makes good money and can provide for them and their kids when they have some. Why i dont know since they claim to be independent and don't need A man. See no reason two people working min wage couldn't be together or why a woman making 30 an hour couldn't have a guy making min wage, heck for last thousand s of years guys worked while their SO Didn't ,so if they could doe it,so can modern independent women. But that's not even what's being asked no , just that women accept and love men who work but make less or even as much as they do make. The horror. Another excuses is that men won't be ok with their SO making more, bull s**t I wouldn't care more would lot of ,en, and if he does then dump him.

No cause when women give me a chance we get along good. And I never meet 90% of the women who reject me. They list on their FBI, cl, dating profiles they won't date men unless they have a good job, car and own place. I.e. Have their life together. So no it has nothing to do with me being wierd, I blend in as normal but shy.

Most males are virgins because they have no other choice, women tend to be because they want to wait for right guy or marriage.

There's a big problem in the USA with people being and staying single and it's worse in educated women , it that's just the tip, as they're not much way to track it in working class and min wage. Most if not all the women at my work are in relationships with guys who make more, while a lot of the guys are single. Why is it min wage women can find love easier then min wage men? The only difference is their gender and what society deems is required for said genders to be idea little cogs in the machine.

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