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Most women also didn’t work back then so there were lots more job options for men. I could have worked in a factory. Todsy over half the jobs are taken by women and factory jobs have all moved to China. There isn’t enjoy well paid jobs for every single man and woman in America, so any job a woman holds is one less for men. Which is good but bad if women expect a man who has a good job. Will they give up theirs so their bf can have a good joB? Why for the past 1,000 plus years had men been fine with a woman not working at all or working a less paid job but most women can’t imagine being with a man who makes less then them? Doesn’t make any sense , certainly is equality. Women should treat men like men treat women that’s equality. Men don’t give two cents about a woman’s job or income, why can’t most women not care about a mans?

I’d been way better off in the 1930s I’d work a dead end factory job doing the same task 8 hours a day for life and women would swooned over me. It sucked for women but it was good times for men, times changed, men changed with them, why have most women adapted to the new times? Do yo honestly think in a world and economy where’s there’s not enough jobs for everyone, certainly not enough well paid jobs for everyone, that it’s logical for most women to demand a man who’s well off? Purely on math basis there isn’t enough well off men for every single woman in the USA. There just isn’t. It’s mathematically impossible. Men are often more unemployed then women, they often work lower paid jobs then women, they go to and graduate college less then women. It’s only getting wors. Year after year the ratio keeps moving in women’s favors with college and post college jobs. So say 1/2 of men don’t go to college and are either unemployed or working. Min wage jobs. That leaves half of women with no options for well off men to date. Women in the 1930s would been super happy to have a guy who worked at a grocery store. Now such men were worthrless losers who are deemed undateable. A large amount if men are deemed not relationship material and called mean names to imply they just use women for money, but no one ever called house wives those things.
Society expects men to be the breed winner and if they aren’t society harshly judges them. There’s tons of videos and books by women and men putting such men down.
“I don’t care what the situation is a man never accepts money from his woman, men give money to their woman not the other way around”

Most women’s mindsets need to adapt and change to modern times where most men can’t and won’t be well off. Middle class is shrinking fast. Most people are poor. We have tons of unemployed men.

I’m expected to spend 50-100 dollars on a date. That’s my whole months food budget. And she probably won’t go on a second date. So then I starve for a month so some woman can get a free meal and activity , while she moves on to the next guy for another free meal. In a equal world can’t she pay for her own meal or cup of coffee?
Lady at worked bragged about how she was using a guy who likes her but she doesn’t like to go do activities she could t afford. The other woman she was telling thought it was great. Imagine if I went to work and bragged about using a woman who likes me but I don’t like her for sex. Sure that’d go over great.

And I could have provided for a whole family back then. There were a lot more low skill labor jobs back then. Now to make the same money you need a 4-8 year college degree and the right connections.

Also the drinks at Starbucks is at least $10 is that cheap to you? It’s not cheap for poor people.

I'm sure there are women who expect a guy to spend that much on a first date. Avoid them. I'm pretty sure that most people aren't going on dates that cost that much.

First dates shouldn't even be meals in my opinion. Just tea or coffee or a drink somewhere. Fancy places with $20+ meals are for special occasions and foodies.



We don't live in an equal world. Should a woman pay for her own meal or cup of coffee? I don't have a problem with it, but chances are, if a guy asks me out, he is going to want to pay. Even if women never had a problem with paying, there are still guys who are going to insist on paying because he's trying to impress her.



Yeah you've already told us about that and we've already replied to it.



Nobody likes users or their male or female. You would be viewed just as deplorably as most people would your coworker. You may, however, be disciplined because you are talking about sex in the workplace whereas she was not talking about sex.



Maybe maybe not. Most of those low-skilled jobs are very labor-intensive and you've communicated to us that you have disabilities. Most of those jobs are also full-time jobs, and some of them were an excess of full-time jobs.



Prices of cafe latte around the world.



Photos of actual Starbucks menus from the pacific north west.







There does not to appear to be a drink on the Starbucks menu that costs $10 or more. One can get a drink at Starbucks that costs $10 or more, however those are custom drinks, the ingredients of which and the quantity of ingredients of which exceed that of a normal drink.

I'm fairly certain most people are not ordering these and are ordering normal menu items instead.

A ex friend who was also an ex bully. Paid $300 for his first dates.
I spent $50 on one first date(vegan restaurant), $40 on another(bowling and mini golf)

Why can’t they just be a walk?

Shouldn’t we strive for equality for everyone not just women?
I don’t want to pay. Maybe I’d pay for some future dates, if a woman went in few dates with me I’d feel mor up to digging into my savings to pay for dates. Being as I’ve never had a second date I tired of paying for first dates and getting nothing other then feeling used. I even bring a single pink rose which is $1-5 though that was when I had a car, it’d be hard to do it now. Unless we went to the park by the flower shop.

I dont know seems some people like users. I’ve seen lots of men cheered in for using women for sex. Whole notches on their bed thing.
I’m pretty sure did he hated and called an insults. When people use others it tends to be :Men use women for sex and women use men for favors. So I used it as the example.
I’d never use women or anyone. Nor do I talk to people at work much. I act professional at work. I don’t goof around even. Most everyone else does.

I liked assembly and packaging work. I put music on and worked my shift doing the same task hundreds or thousands of times each day. Such jobs don’t exist here. I did it at an evaluation place where they use low paid disabled workers to cut cost. I packed science rock kits, relabeled drinks for shipping, helped in the mixing room. I’d be good on an assembly line or doing quality control inspections. But those jobs are all in China now. Sadly there’s very few small businesses that need such workers in my area. We mostly have office workers. Sony was here but closed back in the 1990s.
There some bakeries but they’d competitive jobs and I have no experience or contacts.
I can’t do construction or other similar fast pace labor jobs.

I’d be buying two drinks, hence the $10. Most drinks are $4+ even at Dutch brothers, which I’d rather go to since I don’t drink coffee but they sell creamosas. They a stand though.
All doesn’t matter I don’t ger messages non less first dates. Every attempt at work to ask women out hasn’t been them rejecting me for being ugly and not good enough, then they go to date other guys at work. Make out and cuddle on the work couch in front of me. Work sucks.

No, hmmm look listen....women of WP, take notes: when guys insist to pay it's not a matter of 'trying to impress you ' ok? The only reason why men do this because it's the safest way- because they can't tell whether the woman has an old-fashion prejudice (those will judge the man as stingy or no longer consider the date as date) on this or not from the first day - so if you want to pay just say that you do think of this date as a date even if you split the bill and there's no prejudice .

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Then stop paying for dates sly!! !

Jesus christ.

Interesting workplace....

You're right, he isn't always "trying to impress" us. In some situations he is trying to avoid looking bad in a less than egalitarian society. But there's more to it than either of those. The fact that he is competing with other men for her.

Most people don't spend that much on first dates...or second dates or third dates.



What's this obsession with walks?



There is no equality in dating and mating for men or women. If a man thinks paying for a date is going to give him a better chance with the ladies, there is a man out there who will do it.



Yeah, I gathered. If you don't want to pay for a first date then don't pay. I don't like makeup so I don't wear makeup. Does it make me less fit as far as attracting mates goes? Yes it sure does. But I choose not wearing makeup over attracting more potential mates because that is how much I hate makeup.



Fair enough.



You don't need to get a $4+ drink if it's really that much of an issue, but I don't think that's really the issue.

Aren't they both competing? Maybe he would reject her for her traditional views.

I am with you on this but reckon it must be cultural. I am half Swedish and I would never let people pay for me when we went out. I didn't really do 'dating' though, like things were never explicit like that, I would have seen it as a way for them to get ideas of romance whereas I preferred to view people as friends or people I was getting to know. I have only let two people in my life ever call me their girlfriend and one of them is my husband. Everyone else was in some form of grey zone. So whilst some of the people I met and hung out with did turn into sexual partners that never shifted who paid for stuff. I get the feeling things are different in America.

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Ps. Walking is by far the best form of socialising! You are alongside each other so you don't have to fret about eye contact. You get movement and energy out so less restless energy and lining up sugar packets in a cafe etc. etc. and no annoying lighting to cause sensory issues. I so rate walking.

Ps2. One guy once asked me to Paris for an oyster party for our first date. He bought the flights. I went (I shouldn't have, this was not a good experience!) but as he had booked the tickets I paid for stuff once we were out there. He seemed surprised by this but I would not have enjoyed being paid for for the whole trip. But then this is maybe Swedish thinking, in Sweden men never seem to hold doors open for women or pay for things. I think there is almost something offensive to it - like a suggestion that women can't take care of themselves.

Did you desire to have sex with that guy too or are you that naive?

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Of course I did. But if I didn't I would not have - had sex with him that is. I do like oysters though.

But if you didn't desire him, would you have accepted the travel-date still?

Walks in the park are romantic sometimes.