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07 Apr 2013, 7:06 pm

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That's illogical though as I will be with a man so he's had the same opportunity as me!


Not necessarily. From the statistical point of view, it means that the average 'opportunity' is the same for men a women, but it doesn't mean that they're similar distributions.

To make an example: if, instead of relationships, we'd be talking about money, men and women would be as two countries equally rich both of them, but while 'women country' would have a wide middle class, 'men country' would have bigger rich and poor classes. Average is the same, but living there would be not.


I think gender is irrelevant - it's far more to do with strategy and approach

with all the scorn I get off the average person, if I can get partners, anyone should be able to!


Nope, Nessa. I'm afraid it is not. Just check how many 'will I always be single?' threads started by man in their 30s are here, and how many ones started by women.


That proves nothing except that the men here are more likely to post about being single.


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07 Apr 2013, 7:11 pm

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That's illogical though as I will be with a man so he's had the same opportunity as me!


Not necessarily. From the statistical point of view, it means that the average 'opportunity' is the same for men a women, but it doesn't mean that they're similar distributions.

To make an example: if, instead of relationships, we'd be talking about money, men and women would be as two countries equally rich both of them, but while 'women country' would have a wide middle class, 'men country' would have bigger rich and poor classes. Average is the same, but living there would be not.


I think gender is irrelevant - it's far more to do with strategy and approach

with all the scorn I get off the average person, if I can get partners, anyone should be able to!


Nope, Nessa. I'm afraid it is not. Just check how many 'will I always be single?' threads started by man in their 30s are here, and how many ones started by women.


That proves nothing except that the men here are more likely to post about being single.


Yes I agree

Are you classed as single if you talk to someone online and see them for sex every so often?

I go back and forth between doing that and not doing it as the person angers me too much



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proves AS men are as picky as they come - hence their lack of success with women!


Picky no, why would we be picky?


I opened a profile on the GeektoGeek dating site last month, thinking these people see themselves as 'geeks', which could well mean at least some of them have Aspergers. I thought I would be on 'home territory' and more likely to find someone like-minded.

I put a photo taken last year on ie my most up to date one and I was honest in the weight section and put I was overweight

And do you know what happened?

I didn't get one single response!

This was a first for me as I'm used to getting a number of responses

So if there were more people than average with an ASD on that site it explains a lot!

Far from being desperate for a partner, any partner, in my opinion geeky types/people with Aspergers are MORE picky than average, not less and this is why they don't find partners ie because they think they deserve Princess Leia!

Watching all these films and playing video games instead of mixing more in the real world where real women don't look so perfect has warped their aesthetics. This is my theory and my experience seems to support it.


Absolutely! I also think some aspergermen have seem weird fixations/obsessions when it comes to dating. I know a guy with asperger syndrome for example, he only dates women that wear no make-up at all. And yes, he asks them about it before he dates them. I mean, come on. Another aspieguy I know only dates women with freckles. Utterly dumb if you ask me.
No wonder they're single.



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08 Apr 2013, 4:12 am

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proves AS men are as picky as they come - hence their lack of success with women!


Picky no, why would we be picky?


I opened a profile on the GeektoGeek dating site last month, thinking these people see themselves as 'geeks', which could well mean at least some of them have Aspergers. I thought I would be on 'home territory' and more likely to find someone like-minded.

I put a photo taken last year on ie my most up to date one and I was honest in the weight section and put I was overweight

And do you know what happened?

I didn't get one single response!

This was a first for me as I'm used to getting a number of responses

So if there were more people than average with an ASD on that site it explains a lot!

Far from being desperate for a partner, any partner, in my opinion geeky types/people with Aspergers are MORE picky than average, not less and this is why they don't find partners ie because they think they deserve Princess Leia!

Watching all these films and playing video games instead of mixing more in the real world where real women don't look so perfect has warped their aesthetics. This is my theory and my experience seems to support it.


C'mon. I just checked guys in their 40s in UK. I picked a big random city, as Manchester (no idea which is yours). And there was 44 guys, TOTAL. But profiles keep being in online dating when people goes, so how many people are currently dating there in an average important city in UK? Five, ten?

GeekOnGeek in UK is empty for a dating site. It's the typical dating site with no mouvement, what did you expect?


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08 Apr 2013, 6:03 am

Greb wrote:
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proves AS men are as picky as they come - hence their lack of success with women!


Picky no, why would we be picky?


I opened a profile on the GeektoGeek dating site last month, thinking these people see themselves as 'geeks', which could well mean at least some of them have Aspergers. I thought I would be on 'home territory' and more likely to find someone like-minded.

I put a photo taken last year on ie my most up to date one and I was honest in the weight section and put I was overweight

And do you know what happened?

I didn't get one single response!

This was a first for me as I'm used to getting a number of responses

So if there were more people than average with an ASD on that site it explains a lot!

Far from being desperate for a partner, any partner, in my opinion geeky types/people with Aspergers are MORE picky than average, not less and this is why they don't find partners ie because they think they deserve Princess Leia!

Watching all these films and playing video games instead of mixing more in the real world where real women don't look so perfect has warped their aesthetics. This is my theory and my experience seems to support it.


C'mon. I just checked guys in their 40s in UK. I picked a big random city, as Manchester (no idea which is yours). And there was 44 guys, TOTAL. But profiles keep being in online dating when people goes, so how many people are currently dating there in an average important city in UK? Five, ten?

GeekOnGeek in UK is empty for a dating site. It's the typical dating site with no mouvement, what did you expect?


I expected at least one reply!

It's the first dating site I've been on with no reply and it made me think it's all over for me!

I'll have to stick to my FWB

anyway I've gone past the stage where I'm prepared to do the standard relationship stuff ie going out to pubs, meals etc
so I've got nothing to offer the standard person

I need another person who doesn't like going out basically



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08 Apr 2013, 6:41 am

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Are you being sarcastic because you have stated a very specific preference there ie you were being picky


NO. I would go out with any woman my age, as most women my age are pretty hot. Seriously, I listed something random. Like a Tall sensitive serbian woman looking for a hair salon. Random, not specific or picky. I am not picky at all.



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08 Apr 2013, 8:04 am

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The odds are on the females favour when it comes to online dating for a simple reason: there are too many males online/not enough females.

However is anyone forcing you to limit yourself to online dating?

There are plenty of "female" activities where a man would be more than welcome and be the one with odds in his favour.
Most dancing clubs/courses/whatever need males...


I don't understand your comment. I never said that I was limitting myself, I used online dating as an example. I don't understand why you suggest that having dated online imply that you were not doing it in other ways. That assumption seems slightly neurotypical in my opinion. Could you explain it?


You cant talk about a males experience when it comes to dating and focus only on online dating because while its a perfect example of how the odds are stack against males in some occasions it isnt the whole picture.

Its like you are doing a study on wild animals worldwide and because you live in the US you forget to mention anything about africa´s wildwife when its much bigger.

There are plenty of things that dont involve online dating and can help you find someone



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08 Apr 2013, 8:09 am

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I expected at least one reply!

It's the first dating site I've been on with no reply and it made me think it's all over for me!

I'll have to stick to my FWB

anyway I've gone past the stage where I'm prepared to do the standard relationship stuff ie going out to pubs, meals etc
so I've got nothing to offer the standard person

I need another person who doesn't like going out basically


C'mon, nessa, this is the first site you didn't get an answer and you make a mountain out of a molehill!! !!


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08 Apr 2013, 10:18 am

Greb wrote:
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I expected at least one reply!

It's the first dating site I've been on with no reply and it made me think it's all over for me!

I'll have to stick to my FWB

anyway I've gone past the stage where I'm prepared to do the standard relationship stuff ie going out to pubs, meals etc
so I've got nothing to offer the standard person

I need another person who doesn't like going out basically


C'mon, nessa, this is the first site you didn't get an answer and you make a mountain out of a molehill!! !!


It was a major blow to my ego

not that it doesn't get regular blows all the time anyway

I have a need to feel at least one person in the whole world finds me attractive at any one time



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08 Apr 2013, 11:41 am

they did say one thing that was true: date girls in your league. they basically told you "we are not what you are looking for and you not us, so find someone you gel with and stop chasing us." outside of that, dont listen to those idiots, dude. the women who say that are usually the ones who have the most issues in their life and they need to bring every1 else down to make their lives look pleasant. i had a girl tell me the same thing and that i didnt have adult-like feelings. basically, she called me a child. yet, she was the one living at home with her mom, still didnt have a bachelor's degree and had a lame-paying job. you lucked out with those girls man and you dont need to hear that s**t from anyone.

and there are cute girls in our league that arent obese/fat or ugly nor ostentatious and gamorous, it's just that those girls are few and far between. the world seems to be on opposite spectrums, where there are either Kim Kardashians or Mo'Niques and not enough Michelle Obamas, but i am still hunting myself dude so dont give up! 8)



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08 Apr 2013, 11:47 am

nessa238 wrote:
Greb wrote:
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I expected at least one reply!

It's the first dating site I've been on with no reply and it made me think it's all over for me!

I'll have to stick to my FWB

anyway I've gone past the stage where I'm prepared to do the standard relationship stuff ie going out to pubs, meals etc
so I've got nothing to offer the standard person

I need another person who doesn't like going out basically


C'mon, nessa, this is the first site you didn't get an answer and you make a mountain out of a molehill!! !!


It was a major blow to my ego

not that it doesn't get regular blows all the time anyway

I have a need to feel at least one person in the whole world finds me attractive at any one time


Well, nessa, I would like to tell you "don't worry", but I'm not good at lying. What you're finding right is called REJECTION, with bold and caps letters. Some men could know it their whole life. Women (usually) only know it from 45 on. So I'm afraid it's not going better. I'm sorry. Men use to prefer younger women.

What you're starting to experience is what some men here have lived their whole live: rejection. So imagine how it feels, for those men, to be a witness of other people having love, when you only had this kind of rejection, since you remember. And imagine how it feels, when men that have never knew otherwise in their whole life listen to any woman saying 'hey, it's the samen for men and women'.

In general the love market is quite savage for men, And women don't use to have much empathy or consideration towards men that don't reach the 'standard'. So in general, from 40s on, men that have lived it their whole life, use to be as icy as women when choosing a partner. For many of them, if you're not young enough, you don't reach the standard, so you're dismissed. No pity or consideration. Usually men become very cynic when they have spent many years in the love market witnessing how women develop their 'staff selection' (that uses to be mercilessly).

And now a piece of advice I hope it's useful. Remember that men, we have more experience with this kind of things.

Don't focus on it. You're gonna get mad, and frustrated, and the day you'll have a chance, this day you'll be so upset that you will screw it up. So the best thing you can do right now is accepting you are not going as successful as you were, and this is going worse, but you still have a lot of things to do and live. And some moment in the future (no way to say when) a chance will appear, there is always a new chance, and the most important is not to be frustatred nor upset this moment, so you don't screw this chance.


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08 Apr 2013, 11:53 am

Greb wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Greb wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
I expected at least one reply!

It's the first dating site I've been on with no reply and it made me think it's all over for me!

I'll have to stick to my FWB

anyway I've gone past the stage where I'm prepared to do the standard relationship stuff ie going out to pubs, meals etc
so I've got nothing to offer the standard person

I need another person who doesn't like going out basically


C'mon, nessa, this is the first site you didn't get an answer and you make a mountain out of a molehill!! !!


It was a major blow to my ego

not that it doesn't get regular blows all the time anyway

I have a need to feel at least one person in the whole world finds me attractive at any one time


Well, nessa, I would like to tell you "don't worry", but I'm not good at lying. What you're finding right is called REJECTION, with bold and caps letters. Some men could know it their whole life. Women (usually) only know it from 45 on. So I'm afraid it's not going better. I'm sorry. Men use to prefer younger women.

What you're starting to experience is what some men here have lived their whole live: rejection. So imagine how it feels, for those men, to be a witness of other people having love, when you only had this kind of rejection, since you remember. And imagine how it feels, when men that have never knew otherwise in their whole life listen to any woman saying 'hey, it's the samen for men and women'.

In general the love market is quite savage for men, And women don't use to have much empathy or consideration towards men that don't reach the 'standard'. So in general, from 40s on, men that have lived it their whole life, use to be as icy as women when choosing a partner. For many of them, if you're not young enough, you don't reach the standard, so you're dismissed. No pity or consideration. Usually men become very cynic when they have spent many years in the love market witnessing how women develop their 'staff selection'.

And now and advice, since men, we have more experience with this kind of things: don't focus on it. You're gonna get mad, and frustrated, and the day you'll have a chance, this day you'll be so upset that you will screw it up. So the best thing you can do right now is accepting you are not going as successful as you were, and this is going worse, but you still have a lot of things to do and live. And some moment in the future (no way to say when) a chance will appear, there is always a new chance, and what you need is not to be frustatred and upset this moment.


I hate to burst your bubble but I had my 32 year old FWB over earlier today so you'll be pleased to learn I'm not going without

You're right in terms of some men always wanting a young woman but some young men prefer an older woman :wink:

and I know plenty about rejection, believe me; I knew abut it at 20 so it's certainly nothing new to me!



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08 Apr 2013, 11:54 am

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I hate to burst your bubble but I had my 32 year old FWB over earlier today so you'll be pleased to learn I'm not going without

You're right in terms of some men always wanting a young woman but some young men prefer an older woman :wink:

and I know plenty about rejection, believe me; I knew abut it at 20 so it's certainly nothing new to me!


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08 Apr 2013, 11:57 am

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I hate to burst your bubble but I had my 32 year old FWB over earlier today so you'll be pleased to learn I'm not going without

You're right in terms of some men always wanting a young woman but some young men prefer an older woman :wink:

and I know plenty about rejection, believe me; I knew about it at 20 so it's certainly nothing new to me!


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that's correct, I'm 47

your point being?



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Well, nessa, I would like to tell you "don't worry", but I'm not good at lying. What you're finding right is called REJECTION, with bold and caps letters. Some men could know it their whole life. Women (usually) only know it from 45 on. So I'm afraid it's not going better. I'm sorry. Men use to prefer younger women.

What you're starting to experience is what some men here have lived their whole live: rejection. So imagine how it feels, for those men, to be a witness of other people having love, when you only had this kind of rejection, since you remember. And imagine how it feels, when men that have never knew otherwise in their whole life listen to any woman saying 'hey, it's the samen for men and women'.

In general the love market is quite savage for men, And women don't use to have much empathy or consideration towards men that don't reach the 'standard'. So in general, from 40s on, men that have lived it their whole life, use to be as icy as women when choosing a partner. For many of them, if you're not young enough, you don't reach the standard, so you're dismissed. No pity or consideration. Usually men become very cynic when they have spent many years in the love market witnessing how women develop their 'staff selection' (that uses to be mercilessly).

And now a piece of advice I hope it's useful. Remember that men, we have more experience with this kind of things.

Don't focus on it. You're gonna get mad, and frustrated, and the day you'll have a chance, this day you'll be so upset that you will screw it up. So the best thing you can do right now is accepting you are not going as successful as you were, and this is going worse, but you still have a lot of things to do and live. And some moment in the future (no way to say when) a chance will appear, there is always a new chance, and what you need is not to be frustatred and upset this moment.


EXTREMELY good points!

Now of course, there's always a few exceptions to every rule... some gals have never been dated, some guys (like me) fared better when younger...
[shrug] Oh well. I yam wot I yam. :)



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08 Apr 2013, 12:02 pm

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that's correct, I'm 47

your point being?


I'm sorry. I'm confused. I think that you just said you were 32.


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