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WantToHaveALife
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30 Oct 2012, 4:22 pm

MXH wrote:

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as ive told both of you. Its not the topic of the conversation, rather how interesting the conversation.

i hate women, even my own mom

then why do you bother looking for tips to get one?

don't know

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30 Oct 2012, 7:25 pm

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Hey billiscool, sorry if you have already explained this but there's a lot to read in this and other posts. I get the impression that when you talk to a woman about Adam Sandler or other "random" topics, you use this as an opening line and skip part the usual "pleasantries" in the beginning such as "how are you?", talking about things related to the situation, etc, am I correct?

Well I wanted to point out that asking seemingly random questions like that is not common practice, and even if the woman you are talking to is laid back, relaxed, open, etc., it still doesn't mean she will respond positively to these sorts of abrupt questions so early in a conversation. Because it is rather an unusual thing to do, she is likely to be cautious about you and what sort of personality/mentality you have.

We live in a world where there are some people who are okay with asking random questions, but hardly anyone actually ever does it, because "nobody else does", so those who do come across as "strange" even if the recipient would actually prefer that people could behave this way. It sucks but that's the way it is.

Ok the next time I see a lady I will say this: ''hey honey ever seen a real man. check out these biceps. How about these abs.
yeah, you like that, I got a bed lets use it'' Ok Im just kidding about that, take care (ps Im not really going to say that to a woman)

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30 Oct 2012, 7:35 pm

well, I guess should drop talking about adam sandler in begining of a conversation.
Sure I could do that. But dang it how come these ladies can act dumb and say stupid thing
and still get men to date them . oh well. Im talking about ladies who get drunk and act like idiots.
( girls at parties type)

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30 Oct 2012, 7:37 pm

billiscool wrote:

for the same reason most men that get women can say stupid things and have women all over them.

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30 Oct 2012, 8:00 pm

In other words, other factors are at play.

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07 Nov 2012, 11:47 pm

you have 2 options with that. Deal with it or give up with women

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12 Nov 2012, 6:22 pm

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you have 2 options with that. Deal with it or give up with women

and i don't get why do people see, view as that we men should enjoy pursuing, chasing

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12 Nov 2012, 7:01 pm

WantToHaveALife wrote:

MXH wrote:

you have 2 options with that. Deal with it or give up with women

and i don't get why do people see, view as that we men should enjoy pursuing, chasing

Thats not what i said. I dont enjoy the prsuing part. But I know if I dont pursue things arent going to just fall on my lap naked. No ammount of bitching and bitterness will fix that.

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12 Nov 2012, 8:03 pm

@MXH
I just joined here, and the things listed in the original post are incredible.

Ive been on dating sites for years. in the end i have 0 resulting relationships, met about 6 in person, chatted with a few long distance. but overall you can see its rather bad. i have AS, but only a little bit. Im not unattractive and quite interesting in person. the catch is getting from profile to a date with someone i have an interest in. I actually only found out about AS a year ago, and the past 2-3 months are my first time trying to online date while aware of who i am in great detail. so i know my biggest flaw right now is probably my pictures. i only have 3 up and 2 are with family and one is just me. none are socializing with friends and i dont have a very good camera smile. my natural smile is more like a laugh and im too un-photogenic to really want to put up alot of me being dumb.

so thats me (btw im not manic, it was a false diagnosis from when i was a teen and i just kept it)

for your guide i have a suggestion:
Get a female opinion where possible. Things like hair or style of clothing or to review profile photos. Simple options would be sister or a cousin or a friend's girlfriend. The only rules would be they should be your peer (unlike your mother) and have a sense of style themselves. Other than that, pick someone you trust and who knows you.

I cant think of anything else to cover. the only way to really get in more detail is to probably split it off for what a guy is looking for (like long term or pickups or handling personality types) so your original post is a great start that i think all should read. and if they dont understand something, then they are probably not ready.

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12 Nov 2012, 9:02 pm

Paying a sex worker is the admission of defeat and is far from a rewarding and enjoyable experience. Only see a sex worker if you are really desperate. If you have any dignity and self respect avoid them.
Males should not go and see a sex worker. The experience of using a sex worker is just expensive mutually assisted masturbation. Condoms are not enough to prevent all STIs.

Instead put in the time and effort into improving yourself to make yourself more attractive. It may take time and you should not expect instant results. Gym membership, better clothes, a hair cut and going out more may help you meet new people.

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13 Nov 2012, 12:04 am

Sex worker:
* Guaranteed sex
* Risk of really bad STI
* Don't care for you - risk of emotional trauma (and broken people)

Partner:
* Gym membership
* Better clothes
* Hair cut
* Gifts
* Time!

When you look at the last list you may realize it does cost. So love isn't free! it's just choices and opportunities.

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14 Nov 2012, 11:16 am

ManicDan wrote:

The reason i try to avoid the asking female opinion part is because women dont really share an opinion. And even less on the area of looks. That said if you feel better knowing one girl approves then go for it. Were a group where for a vast majority lack certain key features that make dating painless. Let alone selfimage. So for this i think you should keep it to a personal choice.

I agree on the not ready part, its something very common around these parts.

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14 Nov 2012, 11:32 am

MXH wrote:

its helped me alot. when i grew my hair out for a few years i had no idea what women thought. my sister said it was bad, then i asked a few female friends and they all said i was better with short, so i cut it. alot of times someone may not mention if its bad because they dont want to hurt your feelings. you also dont have to take their opinion to heart, but knowing a different or multiple perspectives can give a great indicator of the general idea.

for clothing theres alot of science behind it and plenty of logic if we go over specific details. so i think its very possible to be trained on what looks good. for me i am narrow framed and on the short side. i use to wear a medium but now i get shirts that are tighter around my chest and shoulders to show me as being muscular instead of just skinny and swimming in clothes

for most of my life the attempt to figure out style is simply put as copying someone else. find a movie star whos built similar to you and look at how clothes fit them.

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14 Nov 2012, 11:58 am

Something id like to point out that i just found today.

yep, you got that right. Depending on the site a lot of profiles could be just bots. Heres an easy way to tell. If the profile is copypasted, as in 15 other girls have it down to the same typos. BOT. If they message you being way too forward. 90% chance of bot. If every time you look at her profile shes been online recently, and especially at weird times of day and night, chances are you can start looking for something about her profile to show shes a bot. And more recently bots are using pictures of average girls to blend in better, so they arent as easy to pick out anymore. these are just some of the things ive noticed in the past day from a new swarm of them. Heres a couple of the profiles.
"N0 n0nsense w0man l00king f0r s0me0ne wh0 will enj0y her as she is. See.. yes I'm a n0 n0nsense type 0f w0man but I d0 l0ve t0 have a really wild time."
"... talk to you soon!"
"Well...... N0t sure where t0 start here... Well ab0ut myself.. I'm a g00d hearted pers0n.. a great friend.. enj0y g0ing 0ut with the girls & having a few drinks.. reading a g00d b00k.. seeing a g00d m0vie 0r just sitting at h0me!! I enj0y sp0rts mainly f00tball & baseball. anything else ??"

Now, why should you care about bots? Well for starters theyre going to waste your time, and most likely offer something that involves paying. And another chance is they tell you to meet somewhere, that somewhere in reality has a gang of men about to rob you, and possibly murder you. and any other thing in between.

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19 Nov 2012, 1:20 am

everything is a man's responsibility, chore, in life

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19 Nov 2012, 2:10 am

WantToHaveALife wrote:

everything is a man's responsibility, chore, in life

like ive said, sadly no ammount of simple bitching is going to cure that. so why bother with it?

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