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15 Dec 2018, 5:45 am

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What would you tell a physical disabled man or a man with severe mental condition? Cause that’s the same advice yiu should give me I’m permanently disabled I can’t work a good job.

What I'd tell a physically or mentally disabled person who was unable to attract a partner due to their disability is to try to meet people in similar situations to their own. It doesn't have to be the exact same disability but something that impairs their attractiveness and what they can do with their lives in similar enough ways.
A partner living in a similarly restricted way to their own wouldn't need to give up on anything to be with them.


If I could find a nice lady with depression and social anxiety I would happily give her a chance. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety groups seem to be filled with men. Every I go it's always god damn men. I'm sick to death of men. Life shouldn't be one big sausage fest.

Well unfortunately, other men have as much right to be depressed or anxious as you or me. I know what you mean though, it's hard to know where to meet women, and such a significant amount of women that one might actually be interested.



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15 Dec 2018, 5:46 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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What would you tell a physical disabled man or a man with severe mental condition? Cause that’s the same advice yiu should give me I’m permanently disabled I can’t work a good job.

What I'd tell a physically or mentally disabled person who was unable to attract a partner due to their disability is to try to meet people in similar situations to their own. It doesn't have to be the exact same disability but something that impairs their attractiveness and what they can do with their lives in similar enough ways.
A partner living in a similarly restricted way to their own wouldn't need to give up on anything to be with them.


If I could find a nice lady with depression and social anxiety I would happily give her a chance. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety groups seem to be filled with men. Every I go it's always god damn men. I'm sick to death of men. Life shouldn't be one big sausage fest.


Life is a dick.

That must be why it's so hard



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15 Dec 2018, 5:50 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
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What would you tell a physical disabled man or a man with severe mental condition? Cause that’s the same advice yiu should give me I’m permanently disabled I can’t work a good job.

What I'd tell a physically or mentally disabled person who was unable to attract a partner due to their disability is to try to meet people in similar situations to their own. It doesn't have to be the exact same disability but something that impairs their attractiveness and what they can do with their lives in similar enough ways.
A partner living in a similarly restricted way to their own wouldn't need to give up on anything to be with them.


If I could find a nice lady with depression and social anxiety I would happily give her a chance. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety groups seem to be filled with men. Every I go it's always god damn men. I'm sick to death of men. Life shouldn't be one big sausage fest.

Well unfortunately, other men have as much right to be depressed or anxious as you or me. I know what you mean though, it's hard to know where to meet women, and such a significant amount of women that one might actually be interested.


No kidding. People like AngelRho say "expand your friends circle to include lots of women". I'd do that if I knew where to find all these women to make friends with. I've seen hiking groups and stuff that are fairly mixed, but they only do events once a month or so. How the hell do you make friends when you will only see the same people once a month at best? That's not enough time to bond at all.



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15 Dec 2018, 5:54 am

I love how you are coloring your posts, Grand inquistor, you inspired me, I am thinking to adopt this color as my own trademark from now on.
Beautiful and comfty, isn’t it?



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15 Dec 2018, 5:59 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
NorthWind wrote:
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What would you tell a physical disabled man or a man with severe mental condition? Cause that’s the same advice yiu should give me I’m permanently disabled I can’t work a good job.

What I'd tell a physically or mentally disabled person who was unable to attract a partner due to their disability is to try to meet people in similar situations to their own. It doesn't have to be the exact same disability but something that impairs their attractiveness and what they can do with their lives in similar enough ways.
A partner living in a similarly restricted way to their own wouldn't need to give up on anything to be with them.


If I could find a nice lady with depression and social anxiety I would happily give her a chance. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety groups seem to be filled with men. Every I go it's always god damn men. I'm sick to death of men. Life shouldn't be one big sausage fest.

Well unfortunately, other men have as much right to be depressed or anxious as you or me. I know what you mean though, it's hard to know where to meet women, and such a significant amount of women that one might actually be interested.


No kidding. People like AngelRho say "expand your friends circle to include lots of women". I'd do that if I knew where to find all these women to make friends with. I've seen hiking groups and stuff that are fairly mixed, but they only do events once a month or so. How the hell do you make friends when you will only see the same people once a month at best? That's not enough time to bond at all.

I know they're pretty overdone, but I was considering making a thread asking where to meet women, with a few caveats and limitations. Seeing as it may end up helping others as well, I'll probably do it pretty soon.



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15 Dec 2018, 6:02 am

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I love how you are coloring your posts, Grand inquistor, you inspired me, I am thinking to adopt this color as my own trademark from now on.
Beautiful and comfty, isn’t it?


You're not allowed to post in my threads any more.



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15 Dec 2018, 6:02 am

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I love how you are coloring your posts, Grand inquistor, you inspired me, I am thinking to adopt this color as my own trademark from now on.
Beautiful and comfty, isn’t it?

Haha yeah I saw others do it here and decided it was time for me to get my own trademark colour. Helps you stand out and it's just a bit more fun I guess. Now when people see red text they'll probably start to link that to me, unless of course others end up adopting it.



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15 Dec 2018, 6:06 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I love how you are coloring your posts, Grand inquistor, you inspired me, I am thinking to adopt this color as my own trademark from now on.
Beautiful and comfty, isn’t it?


You're not allowed to post in my threads any more.

Is it the specific colour he's using that you object to, the coloured text in general, or the fact that his post was off-topic?



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15 Dec 2018, 6:13 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
NorthWind wrote:
sly279 wrote:
What would you tell a physical disabled man or a man with severe mental condition? Cause that’s the same advice yiu should give me I’m permanently disabled I can’t work a good job.

What I'd tell a physically or mentally disabled person who was unable to attract a partner due to their disability is to try to meet people in similar situations to their own. It doesn't have to be the exact same disability but something that impairs their attractiveness and what they can do with their lives in similar enough ways.
A partner living in a similarly restricted way to their own wouldn't need to give up on anything to be with them.


If I could find a nice lady with depression and social anxiety I would happily give her a chance. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety groups seem to be filled with men. Every I go it's always god damn men. I'm sick to death of men. Life shouldn't be one big sausage fest.

Well unfortunately, other men have as much right to be depressed or anxious as you or me. I know what you mean though, it's hard to know where to meet women, and such a significant amount of women that one might actually be interested.


Actually I went through a phase where I was sick of women and needed some male company. So I get where he's coming from too.



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15 Dec 2018, 6:16 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I love how you are coloring your posts, Grand inquistor, you inspired me, I am thinking to adopt this color as my own trademark from now on.
Beautiful and comfty, isn’t it?


You're not allowed to post in my threads any more.

Is it the specific colour he's using that you object to, the coloured text in general, or the fact that his post was off-topic?



I take it that my beautiful neon color isn’t much loved. ;_;



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15 Dec 2018, 6:17 am

hurtloam wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
NorthWind wrote:
sly279 wrote:
What would you tell a physical disabled man or a man with severe mental condition? Cause that’s the same advice yiu should give me I’m permanently disabled I can’t work a good job.

What I'd tell a physically or mentally disabled person who was unable to attract a partner due to their disability is to try to meet people in similar situations to their own. It doesn't have to be the exact same disability but something that impairs their attractiveness and what they can do with their lives in similar enough ways.
A partner living in a similarly restricted way to their own wouldn't need to give up on anything to be with them.


If I could find a nice lady with depression and social anxiety I would happily give her a chance. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety groups seem to be filled with men. Every I go it's always god damn men. I'm sick to death of men. Life shouldn't be one big sausage fest.

Well unfortunately, other men have as much right to be depressed or anxious as you or me. I know what you mean though, it's hard to know where to meet women, and such a significant amount of women that one might actually be interested.


Actually I went through a phase where I was sick of women and needed some male company. So I get where he's coming from too.

Yeah I don't even hang out with my friends much anymore. It's not that I can't, it's that I don't see the point. I would much prefer to make female friends at this stage but like Sabreclaw rightly pointed out, seems like everywhere's a sausage fest.



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15 Dec 2018, 6:19 am

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You're forgetting I had a look at the job boards in Oregon and there are loads of jobs to apply for. You wouldnt work in lumber anyway so why quote the decreasing jobs available in trades you won't do?

Women did adapt. They got jobs.

Bus drivers and shop workers and cleaners have wives.

Ok, you've actually hit the nail in the head. The elephant in the room. The problem for some guys here is that they are not intelligent. They look weird. They don't even know how to dress normally or get a good haircut, how can they manage to deal with a household budget? Is the impression they give.

An intelligent woman wants someone on her wavelength. Someone she can talk to who can respond on her level. Its not satisfying to be carrying the burden for someone emotionally and intellectually. Even a woman of average intelligence wants a man of average intelligence, not below average.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't want to be someone's carer. I can get by on my own. I don't want to carry someone when I've got a good life on my own. So do most other women. We don't need someone to provide for us, so we are better off choosing a partner who is our intellectual equal.

I'd consider a guy who can't work full time due to a physical disability, but not a mental one. I need intellectual stimulation. I already have a mother with mental health issues to deal with. I don't need a husband who can't look after himself.

Even the shallow women want an intelligent man, I mean of average intelligence. Below average partner intelligence wise means you have to run round after them like a Mom. Work is an indicator of intelligence. Its not always about the money.



Are you equating intelligence level to the ability of holding a job?
Because someone who works as a cleaner his whole life for instance is unlikely to be smart.

IQ is something mostly inborn, that’s why brilliant students were often brilliant since first day of school, It is mostly genetic.


Well, one of the most intelligent men I know is a cleaner. He's self employed and enjoyed the freedom it gives him.

But I think women on dating sites will look at job at face value and think, hmmm, probably not intelligent.

That's why I don't like dating sites. You see a load of other things before you see the real person underneath.

But, erm, yeah. If you're not intelligent you're not gonna be able to do certain kinds of work. So in general, not always, but in general, you can tell some things about a person by what job they do.

You know. I got a lot of stigma from other women for being a web dev. They'd recoil in horror and say, "wow, you must be clever." Sometimes I wondered if it put men off me too.



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15 Dec 2018, 6:28 am

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Sigh. I wish dating sites hadn't been invented. Its just so much shallowness.

People choose from lists and photos and don't actually get to know the real people behind that.

We can't evaluate ourselves based on dating sites. Its not good for the self esteem.

We are all more than lists of traits and demands on a dating site profile of an attractive looking match.



Do you think dating was less shallow in the Victorian times? lol

Dating sites just reflect the realities of human instincts, what’s so wrong in dating sites tho is the imbalanced sex ratio.


Ooh. Good question.

I think the class restrictions were more obvious. People who worked in cotton mills married other mill workers.

People who owned factories married other factory workers daughters.

I am a huge fan of Elizabeth Gaskell. She wrote books about factory workers. In Mary Barton she is a seamstress who married a mill worker. She's a mill worker's daughter. Her dad gets hooked on opium. Its a dark tale.

In North and South there's a factory worker strike and people starve. The female protagonist is a vicar's daughter who thinks a factory owner is beneath her, but he wins her over.

In the upper classes I think it was the same as now. But amongst the common folks they just married each other.



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15 Dec 2018, 11:06 am

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I'm a social butterfly who can't spread his wings due to crippling depression and social anxiety. I don't even need a girlfriend that desperately, it just makes my heart throb when sweat women smile with me.


Yeah. I know that feeling.

I'm just suck of getting hopes up and then getting hurt. Nothing ever goes anywhere.

You can tell when someone is into you, but nothing ever happens and it's always me organising everything and then there's the landing with a thud when they start going out with someone else or they indirectly tell you they're not interested in taking things further.

That's why I'm done. I can't bear the pain anymore.



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15 Dec 2018, 12:16 pm

hurtloam wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
I'm a social butterfly who can't spread his wings due to crippling depression and social anxiety. I don't even need a girlfriend that desperately, it just makes my heart throb when sweat women smile with me.


Yeah. I know that feeling.

I'm just suck of getting hopes up and then getting hurt. Nothing ever goes anywhere.

You can tell when someone is into you, but nothing ever happens and it's always me organising everything and then there's the landing with a thud when they start going out with someone else or they indirectly tell you they're not interested in taking things further.

That's why I'm done. I can't bear the pain anymore.



Aww hurt hurtloam....



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15 Dec 2018, 1:28 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
I'm a social butterfly who can't spread his wings due to crippling depression and social anxiety. I don't even need a girlfriend that desperately, it just makes my heart throb when sweat women smile with me.


Yeah. I know that feeling.

I'm just suck of getting hopes up and then getting hurt. Nothing ever goes anywhere.

You can tell when someone is into you, but nothing ever happens and it's always me organising everything and then there's the landing with a thud when they start going out with someone else or they indirectly tell you they're not interested in taking things further.

That's why I'm done. I can't bear the pain anymore.



Aww hurt hurtloam....



Yes. That is me :(

I really hope I can manage not to get my hopes up again.