Is the Red Pill Really So Bad?

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Here a song about a hopeful future

Its posts like this that make me wish I knew where to for sure find women so I could relay that information. I mean my boyfriend found me on Okcupid, but I understand a lot of guys don't get a lot of success that way. Maybe they need to make a dating site geared specifically towards helping guys find relationships. IDK if that would be a good idea or totally backfire though.

Confessions of a proud beta male

That's a really nice post

I hate hearing these made up stories of random person bragging about their perfect lives. You were more than likely lying about ever being poor or you were born rich. There are no rags to riches success story, life is no Hollywood movie or Disney fairytale. Made up stories do not change anything in my life and make me more depressed.

Have you noticed that not a lot of people respond to your posts? It might be because you don't ever seem to quote the person you're talking to if you even are talking to anyone in a thread directly, all you do is make statements or accusations seemingly directed at no one here. It's not a very good way to either start a conversation with people or to insert yourself into an on-going conversation with others. You should try actually talking to the people in the threads you participate in by quoting people's specific posts you are commenting about, and asking a question or otherwise opening up an avenue of discussion rather than closing off further discussion by making an indirect accusatory statement at no one in particular.

We all have our own struggles here with communication. But there are tips you can learn to make communicating a little easier. Quoting the people you are talking to in your comments is a good place to start, so we know who you are addressing. Asking questions rather than just making statements is another one.

I haven’t been here in a while due to being extremely busy.
The red pill is in no way bad, all it’s really about is working hard at being the kind of man women are attracted to, and then you’re spoiled for choice as a man, due to the way attraction seems unevenly distributed between men.
In my experience, many people want to punch above their own weight, and this can be exploited once you start becoming succesful, like I’ve done, and have sex with as many as possible, because they hope to lock you down as a long term partner.

Instead of focusing on who you want to date, focus on who you want to be, and then you get to reap all the benefits of that.

Learning how to use an online forum (and whatever forum etiquette) doesn't make one knows how to converse in real life, it has nothing to do with it.

Otherwise, most of us here would be great conversationalists, based on what I people here talk about their social struggles I don't think it's the case at all.

We demand threads from you on that. Details....details.

Well, I have read enough from WP to pick up on some patterns.

1- sex and relationships are social divides and play a part in power dynamics over perceived value/ truth of posts.
In other words, people who are "incels" or have not had relationships and, therefore, question relationships related stuff more etc are considered to be bitter and held to lesser level of objectivity. The bitterness may be true but does not make their opinions any less likely to also be true. It may mean that these thoughts are more pronounced in their minds due to the need to 'figure' things out. That being said, just because a thought is a fixation does not mean it is not true or valid - it must be recognised as being unhealthy to the holder and discarded for its impracticality rather than objectivity.

2- gender divide. women posters are automatically thought of as feminists and expected to think/ see themselves in those terms despite the fact that no one here bothers to have a good healthy debate about feminism in the first place.

3- women posters often make comments about men that are "unfeminist" by most feminist standards of definitions. The more vulnerable men posters will point this out and get a scolding from the other men who consider themselves slightly more "alpha" thereby continuing very boring gender norms.

4- redpill "philosophy" (if you want to call it that) is extremely simplistic. just because a lot of people have relationships does not mean relationships will guarantee you happiness. If you want your life to be "standard" or a model for what society expects of you, then following the redpill philosophy may give you some *success* but not *meaning*.

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Most the women here say they are feminist.
We have most feminist here then in national population. Most women in the USA aren’t feminist.

Maybe I'm just missing all the debates. Personally, I am not a passionate feminist in the "logo" sense. I don't like the expectations that you need to be a feminist in the way public discourse interprets it to believe in equality of the sexes because a lot of these discourses are extremely essentialised and there is an "image" or group mentality that comes/ is assumed to come with it despite the fact that feminist literature is varied and often contradicting.

I don't see much feminist debates around here yet people jump on the bandwagon (for/ against) much like everywhere else on the Internet.

They happen in the politics section. It never ends well though.

ahah I'll go down there sometimes and investigate

Where do you get these stats from? I would think that most of the women in the US are feminists.

Why cause they’re women? Sorry but just cause you’re a woman doesn’t mean you hav to be feminist and support their ideologies. That’s a big reason a lot of women say they aren’t feminist

According to the survey, just 20 percent of Americans — including 23 percent of women and 16 percent of men — consider themselves feminists. Another 8 percent consider themselves anti-feminists, while 63 percent said they are neither.
From pro feminist and left leaning huftinpost
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/ ... 94917.html
You should become a equaltian it’s better for everyone, not just women.