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10 Dec 2011, 4:37 pm

To me personality is another word for spirit or thoughts/behavior and includes both strengths and weaknesses and each personality can be appreciated by certain people with certain other personalities. What you (MR20) said about lacking stuff that would draw people in: NOT TRUE!



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10 Dec 2011, 4:39 pm

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Why do a lot of people strive for big money in a partner? I mean all that proves is that to get a person, you will need wages of top footballers.
What is wrong with just trying to build a relationship without going to extreme spending? Is it not the norm anymore?


A lot of people SAY they want that, but it's usually just a fantasy. I mean, would you NOT date someone because they had too much money?


For having too much money, no. For spending too much money, yes.

Females aren't all the same, just as males aren't all the same. Truthfully, someone buying me stuff constantly is a way to push me away, not draw me closer. This has actually hurt my relationship with my parents because I've gotten upset enough at my dad buying me things that I don't need.

Can we stop with the generalizations being used to describe everyone in a group? About females, about males, about aspies, about NTs, about people as a whole.



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10 Dec 2011, 4:44 pm

Also it is wrong to prejudge as my first post and title did not say rich men and women that grab money, I was making it as unisex as possible. It turned out the way it did and not due to my unisex based posts, well the first few but still did not say that it is just one way.
P.S. Fnord started it being one way. I'm not the fallguy in this one.



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10 Dec 2011, 4:49 pm

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Men with little money get women all the time. Not all of us require lavish gifts and a fat wallet from a man.
'Seriously. It makes me feel horrible for being a woman when I read a bunch of these threads, "you have tits therefore you're a money grubbing whore." :/

Eris, I never said that. What I will say is this: For anybody, if there is only one feature that people find attractive, then those people will leave once that feature is gone. It could be money, it could be looks, it could be popularity itself; but unless a person develops a multifaceted personality, then he or she will wake up one day and realize that everyone has left them because that one thing they used to rely on has deteriorated beyond attractiveness.

Ask any former cheerleader after she's had three or more children by two or more husbands. Ask any former stockbroker who lost everything to bankruptcy. Ask any singer who has lost the use of her voice to cancer. Ask any skier who has become paralyzed after on the slopes. Ask any former "sex symbol" who lost a breast or other body part to cancer.

Unfortunately, the most attractive thing any person can have is a sexy body.

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Men, on average, tend to be attracted by women who are shorter than they are, have a youthful appearance and exhibit features such as a symmetrical face, full breasts, full lips, and a low waist-hip ratio. Women, on average, tend to be more attracted to men who are taller than they are, display a high-degree of facial symmetry, masculine facial dimorphism, and who have broad shoulders, a relatively narrow waist and V-shaped torso.


As for money-grubbing, it happens. People will barter their good looks for a relationship with another person's money, and people will barter their money for a relationship with another person's good looks. This goes on all of the time. Soem call it money-grubbing. Some call it prostitution. Some call it good common sense.

I call it "Life".



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10 Dec 2011, 4:57 pm

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To me personality is another word for spirit or thoughts/behavior and includes both strengths and weaknesses and each personality can be appreciated by certain people with certain other personalities. What you (MR20) said about lacking stuff that would draw people in: NOT TRUE!


Bwhahah please. I'll give an example that everyone's probably heard before; You just exited a long-term relationship and/or you've been a bit lonely. You friend notices this and tries to fix you up with someone. (a friend or a friend of a friend, etc) You reluctantly agree, then you starting asking your friend about this particular person, and all he/she has to say is that the person "has a good personality".

You immediately lose interest, because everyone knows "good personality" is code for being unattractive and having no worthwhile qualities whatsoever.


WTF does it mean to have good personality anyway. Being a nice guy? That arguement has been beaten to death on this site



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10 Dec 2011, 5:00 pm

:( Am I wrong or are you saying you've had experience with this? If so, or actually either way, hopefully you realize there are people out there who take the weaknesses with the strengths and in fact see the strengths in the weaknesses. Who are not just fair-weather friends.



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10 Dec 2011, 5:05 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Men with little money get women all the time. Not all of us require lavish gifts and a fat wallet from a man.
'Seriously. It makes me feel horrible for being a woman when I read a bunch of these threads, "you have tits therefore you're a money grubbing whore." :/

Eris, I never said that. What I will say is this: For anybody, if there is only one feature that people find attractive, then those people will leave once that feature is gone. It could be money, it could be looks, it could be popularity itself; but unless a person develops a multifaceted personality, then he or she will wake up one day and realize that everyone has left them because that one thing they used to rely on has deteriorated beyond attractiveness.

Ask any former cheerleader after she's had three or more children by two or more husbands. Ask any former stockbroker who lost everything to bankruptcy. Ask any singer who has lost the use of her voice to cancer. Ask any skier who has become paralyzed after on the slopes. Ask any former "sex symbol" who lost a breast or other body part to cancer.

Unfortunately, the most attractive thing any person can have is a sexy body.

Wikipedia wrote:
Men, on average, tend to be attracted by women who are shorter than they are, have a youthful appearance and exhibit features such as a symmetrical face, full breasts, full lips, and a low waist-hip ratio. Women, on average, tend to be more attracted to men who are taller than they are, display a high-degree of facial symmetry, masculine facial dimorphism, and who have broad shoulders, a relatively narrow waist and V-shaped torso.


As for money-grubbing, it happens. People will barter their good looks for a relationship with another person's money, and people will barter their money for a relationship with another person's good looks. This goes on all of the time. Soem call it money-grubbing. Some call it prostitution. Some call it good common sense.

I call it "Life".


I would disagree there. The most attractive thing a person can have is a sense of humor. Physical traits are temporary, humor and personality are much longer lasting. It's such a sad way to look at the world in terms of just bartering. I'm with my bf because I love him for his endearing personality and willingness to go out of his way to help me, his friends and family. He does make decent money doing what he loves and I asked if we could keep the spending between us equal. I would pay for one meal, he'd pay the next and so forth...although my mother has told me that he's supposed to pay for everything but I don't want to take advantage of him for his money so I'm keeping it as equal as possible. :)



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10 Dec 2011, 5:06 pm

i'm not rich and i get all the p**** i want



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10 Dec 2011, 5:12 pm

purchase wrote:
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I doubt if i was rich i could get women.


You could get women if all you owned was an outfit made from this here plant.

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And I can tell you from personal experience how wrong you are about that.


You've tried the rhubarb leaf method. I wasn't anticipating that.

no leaf, but a thong.

PF- No, nobody has tken notice of my existance ever. be it if i had something to give or not. That wouldnt change with money



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10 Dec 2011, 5:13 pm

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To me personality is another word for spirit or thoughts/behavior and includes both strengths and weaknesses and each personality can be appreciated by certain people with certain other personalities. What you (MR20) said about lacking stuff that would draw people in: NOT TRUE!


Bwhahah please. I'll give an example that everyone's probably heard before; You just exited a long-term relationship and/or you've been a bit lonely. You friend notices this and tries to fix you up with someone. (a friend or a friend of a friend, etc) You reluctantly agree, then you starting asking your friend about this particular person, and all he/she has to say is that the person "has a good personality".

You immediately lose interest, because everyone knows "good personality" is code for being unattractive and having no worthwhile qualities whatsoever.


WTF does it mean to have good personality anyway. Being a nice guy? That arguement has been beaten to death on this site


No one has "no worthwhile qualities whatsoever." Worthwhile is completely a matter of taste. This goes for physical attractiveness too. The average/mean of a group sampled may favor certain traits but there are people who are not in this mean/average group.

If someone told me someone had a good personality, I would trust it meant they really liked their personality. If it turned out to be some kind of code I would realize that this person was not equipped with the capacities to appreciate person-in-question. That's about it.

There is no one "good personality." I don't hear people using the phrase personally. They all have their strengths and weaknesses that are ultimately the same thing, is my take. Anyway.



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10 Dec 2011, 5:14 pm

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i'm not rich and i get all the p**** i want


Like this guy:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hit9QXbc7yc[/youtube]

"I'm a motherf**king player with no money in the bank" :P



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10 Dec 2011, 5:19 pm

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:( Am I wrong or are you saying you've had experience with this? If so, or actually either way, hopefully you realize there are people out there who take the weaknesses with the strengths and in fact see the strengths in the weaknesses. Who are not just fair-weather friends.


Just curious, was this post directed at me? I got kinda confused.



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10 Dec 2011, 5:21 pm

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:( Am I wrong or are you saying you've had experience with this? If so, or actually either way, hopefully you realize there are people out there who take the weaknesses with the strengths and in fact see the strengths in the weaknesses. Who are not just fair-weather friends.


Just curious, was this post directed at me? I got kinda confused.


Oh sorry. It was an answer to Fnord, I hadn't seen your post at that point.



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10 Dec 2011, 5:24 pm

I wish I had money so I could afford to travel overseas & try the mail-order bride route


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10 Dec 2011, 6:01 pm

purchase - so are my tastes too high of a standard that I should distribute it with no preference?
My taste has given me no luck.



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10 Dec 2011, 6:06 pm

Okay, then ... it seems we all have different opinions on what makes a person "attractive". Of course, I expect some differences based on gender, age, cultural identity, et cetera.

Time for another poll...