My mother having a low opinion of men!

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Uh, no.

Like I said before, most men don't differ that much from one another.
Height, weight, a bit of hair that ends up being grey.

I'm not criticising men.
I like men.
It's just that very few stand out as being physically attractive.
Even fewer when you consider their personality which always stands out more.
Then you also need to feel chemistry.
Chemistry isn't automatic if a man is nice looking.

Attractive / unique looks + Personality + Chemistry = Very rare.

I'd say I notice an "attractive man" maybe two or three times a year, in real life.
There are a few more online or on TV, but that doesn't count.

I don't even consider myself demisexual.

Brad Pitt ---- Ewwwwwww .... He's a pretty boy.

Leonardo DiCaprio --- I had to Google ... The Titanic boy? .... Ewwwww .... Not my type (and too young.)

Sting --- That's a joke, right? Narcissists don't do it for me.

George Clooney -- Yes, I'll admit I think he's handsome but I'm not in the fan club group or anything.
I liked his character on the show ER where he was a paediatrician. He really cared about children and he bucked the system to do what was right. Bonus points in my book. But, that was a character. In real life he seems to be a decent person but I don't know anything about him, except that he's rich and a bit philanthropic.

Robin Thick -- Never heard of him. Don't want to google because I don't like the name.

Why?

That's a bit harsh, don't you think?

Should I call you gay, because you post about other men's looks all the time?

Talking about their own looks, ad nauseam
Talking about other men's looks, ad nauseam
Wanting reassurance about their own looks, ad nauseam
Judging other people as gay for talking about other people's looks

Objectifying people by looks
Hypocrisy
Using double standards
Comparing their partner to others
Bigotry
Racism
Sexism
Homophobia
Transphobia
Ageism
Ableism
Being cruel to animals

Having a lot of money
Flashing their money
Going to gyms
Driving stupidly expensive cars

Gambling
Criminal activity
Untreated addictions (porn, chemical dependency)

Talking about American politics

Cheating on partners
Having no integrity
Being narcissistic or abusive

Liking bright fluorescent light
Talking too much
Wearing cologne
Telling me what to wear or think
Not supporting their own children

Listening to music I can't stand
Needing background noise all day (TV, radio)
Painting walls white



I think that sums it up.

What do women find unattractive in men?

Women aren’t all that different from men. Maybe think about the things that you wouldn’t like and go from there.

I don’t like it when guys act like women do nothing but obsess about them all day long. Hint: we don’t. Y’all fellow humans aren’t that interesting, not more so than women anyway. When I’m out and about, I’m usually thinking about something diverting and am not noticing guys particularly unless they are doing something that makes me uncomfortable like trying to flirt with me or invading my personal space.

Great answer.

I don't even do eye contact or look at people's face.
When I do see a face, I don't remember it (face blind).

If someone attracts me, it's usually because of a vibe I feel.
I will like a person's energy long before I know their face.
Energy always wins, because it doesn't change over time.

I like relaxed, down-to-earth, chill vibes.

^
I try to avoid eye contact because I usually want to be left alone, and I think that will make me less approachable.

I can relate to sensing vibes. With me, I think I’m recognizing body language. I’m often on high alert when I’m in public and pick up on subtle things.

i like relaxed and chill, too.

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It's quite common for us (heterosexual) women to look at other women, scrutinize even. But not for the same reasons heterosexual guys do.

Men are more likely to express attraction to a girl more than women are with men. Sometimes I may lear at a man who has his shirt off in the summer, but it doesn't make my day (well, maybe it used to when I was single). But I think two heterosexual guys together are more likely to say "whoa, look at that sexy girl" to each other than go "I like what that guy's wearing/I like that guy's figure/is that guy as pretty as me/etc?"

My mom has a crush on the New Orleans musician, Trombone Shorty. Mom's VERY obvious about it & talks about him with/to my dad & her family & friends. My parents went together to Shorty's performances at Jazz Fest at least a few times. My parents have a bit of Jazz Fest posters hanging around the house & they have one or two of Shorty hung up. Dad doesn't seem to really be bothered by mom's crush. My mom doesn't really talk about other guys thou. I wonder if this kinda thing is related to the delusional disorder erotomania & could possibly have a genetic link cuz it would help explain my crush obsession on the iCarly actress, Miranda Cosgrove that's been going on for aLONG time now I haven't talked about Miranda much in a long time thou. My girlfriend brings Miranda up more than me in conversation. Cass is pansexual & talks about attractive women & guys with me & she asks me about the attractiveness of different women while we're watching TV together. Very luckily I don't really get jealous.

Reading threads like this about the horrible behavior of abusive men is a major reason I'm a male feminist & tend to have a lower opinion of men in general.

The double standard about guys not being able to be feminine is one of the reasons I've majorly questioned my sexuality & gender orientation in the past. Women saw me as a gay friend they could talk to whereas guys saw me as someone they could pick on.

That's really sad, as is everything related to male gender identity and social pressure.

Regarding the crushes you described, yup .... I have celebrity crushes too. One of the main reasons is that I'm face blind, so in real life I won't remember what anyone looks like even if they're nice looking. When it's a celeb I can look at photos to get a better feel of their appearance or to figure out why I like them in the first place. That's hard to do irl because I can't go around staring at people or asking if I can take their picture so I won't forget them lol.

I have about three or four main celebrity crushes. Again it's not just their looks but also a vibe or a perceived chemistry. My partner knows and of course it's not a big deal since they're celebrities. He has a crush on a celebrity woman as well and it doesn't threaten me at all. Keeping crushes at an arm's length is always safer than falling for friends from your daily life.

My crush developed when I was a little depressed & very lonely due to being single at the time. I'm kinda face blind as well but I fell for her because of her personality. There's not many celebs I can respect & it's very hard for me to notice a good role model. It's kinda ironic cuz Miranda is kinda opposite of the women I tend to be most attracted to. Miranda is mature, responsible, wholesome, & very independent for her age at the time. Plus funny & sweet on top of that. Maybe the funny & sweet is most important & I can be attracted to women who are very different from each other if they have funny & sweet in common, IDK

I am often compared to keanu reeves.

What do you think of his looks?

I dont know where you see "having a low opinion of men" in that.

She is saying that "its not her place to comment upon a guy's looks". Or thats my understanding.

Women do tend to be aware of what other women do ...with clothes, hair, and cosmetics.

I don't know who he is but I'll google.

....

Found him.
Don't recognise him.

He's OK. I like the longish dark hair.

Very average face.

He's a bit on the thin side for me.

I think a lot of woman like him being he's an incredibly nice guy.

Here's a guy from the undatables https://youtu.be/e8FqG5DBM_o


Isablle- Would you say he's exceptionally good looking for a man?

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