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14 Jul 2016, 4:11 am

OP, I guess from an evolutionary standpoint we aren't needed in this high volume but then neither are the women. There's over 7 billion people in the world and increasing at tremendous pace. But in this modern world it doesn't matter as much. Plenty of what you would describe as "betas" making lots of beta children together in monumental bliss :P

Geography can screw with your chances, though. You might have to look further afield much like I'm doing.
And add to that, different people have different wants - when you fulfil those then you are good for a number of things.


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14 Jul 2016, 4:16 am

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As the OP of the other thread, I feel really bad to cause conflicts. I didn't think women would take it that seriously.

Anyway plz forgive me, I'm gonna run away from here for a while...I'm kinda too scared to face whatever upcoming.

And plz dudes....don't waste your energy here. I wish you dudes the best of the bests.


ShesGone is now HesGone.



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14 Jul 2016, 4:17 am

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If you locked The Thread That Shall Not Be Named, then you gotta lock this one too. Otherwise, you're being prejudiced, biased, and discriminatory.

Oh, wait. Only denigrating women is bad. Denigrating men is OK. Never mind. Carry on.


I would like to remind people that this thread was not started by a woman as an attack on men, but was started by a man who was wondering why, from an evolutionary standpoint, does there need to be so many men, and who was reflecting on his sentiments that he is not a desirable mate.

Doesn't matter. It could still offend.
Also, there have been many female contributors here, which is just as bad as opening the thread.



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14 Jul 2016, 4:19 am

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Just join the revolution. :ninja:

Vive la RRRRRRévolution!

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Which revolution?


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14 Jul 2016, 4:19 am

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OP, I guess from an evolutionary standpoint we aren't needed in this high volume but then neither are the women. There's over 7 billion people in the world and increasing at tremendous pace. But in this modern world it doesn't matter as much. Plenty of what you would describe as "betas" making lots of beta children together in monumental bliss :P

Geography can screw with your chances, though. You might have to look further afield much like I'm doing.
And add to that, different people have different wants - when you fulfil those then you are good for a number of things.


It makes absolutely no sense from an evolutionary standpoint that people should seek partners far away, especially when this is not needed for any good reason like inbreeding avoidance. Thus, the natural behavior of humans (both NTs and NDs), is to select a partner within a relatively small pool of people. NDs might need a slightly larger pool because of their lower prevalence around 15%, but we definitely don't need thousands of people to select from. All my partners and crushes lived close to me.



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14 Jul 2016, 4:22 am

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Just join the revolution. :ninja:

Vive la RRRRRRévolution!

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Which revolution?

Getting this thread locked.



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14 Jul 2016, 4:22 am

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It makes absolutely no sense from an evolutionary standpoint that people should seek partners far away, especially when this is not needed for any good reason like inbreeding avoidance. Thus, the natural behavior of humans (both NTs and NDs), is to select a partner within a relatively small pool of people. NDs might need a slightly larger pool because of their lower prevalence around 15%, but we definitely don't need thousands of people to select from. All my partners and crushes lived close to me.

doesn't matter how many there are, it only matters how many you interact with


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14 Jul 2016, 4:24 am

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I would like to remind people that this thread was not started by a woman as an attack on men, but was started by a man who was wondering why, from an evolutionary standpoint, does there need to be so many men, and who was reflecting on his sentiments that he is not a desirable mate.
Started by a man who seemed to have issues with low self-esteem and self-loathing. I should know because I'm expert on low self-esteem and self-loathing.

On the other hand, the OPs question is quite interesting. Seeing as how the testes can easily produce enough sperm to impregnate several different women per day, but the uterus can only carry one, two or very rarely more babies to term every nine months, that makes the uterus and it's owner the woman, inherently more valuable, or so it seems.

To quote Second Officer Lightoller, Women and children first!

Even the name woman is a portmanteau of womb & man. This organ is apparently considered so valuable as to be the defining trait of women, at least according to the lexicographers.

Giving all this, it's no wonder that men are valued for their achievements and women are valued for being women.

However, this attitude is patronising and hurtful to women, so to rectify this problem, women should also be valued only for their achievement. Thereby, equality between the sexes shall be achieved.


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14 Jul 2016, 4:27 am

Sperm isn't much good.
It's sticky and smells weird and practically 100% of it is wasted.


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14 Jul 2016, 4:32 am

HCHCHC wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Just join the revolution. :ninja:

Vive la RRRRRRévolution!

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Which revolution?
Getting this thread locked.
At last equality is achieved!

Liberté, égalité, fraternité!

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14 Jul 2016, 4:37 am

i have a compulsion of following any thread i post on, and this one is definitely not going to end by itself anytime soon, so, yes, please, someone lock it down :)


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14 Jul 2016, 4:53 am

in my decades of taking up space down here on earth, I have met prime examples of both noble and ignoble people of both genders. asking "what good are men?" or "what good are women?" is like asking "what good are atoms?"



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14 Jul 2016, 4:56 am

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It makes absolutely no sense from an evolutionary standpoint that people should seek partners far away, especially when this is not needed for any good reason like inbreeding avoidance. Thus, the natural behavior of humans (both NTs and NDs), is to select a partner within a relatively small pool of people. NDs might need a slightly larger pool because of their lower prevalence around 15%, but we definitely don't need thousands of people to select from. All my partners and crushes lived close to me.

doesn't matter how many there are, it only matters how many you interact with


That's somewhat true, and you cannot interact with 1,000s of people, so therefore, it makes no sense that online dating makes thousands or even millions of potential partners available to you. You cannot interact with all of them anyway, and you cannot even write targeted messages to many of them (unless you are a spammer).



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14 Jul 2016, 4:58 am

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asking "what good are men?" or "what good are women?" is like asking "what good are atoms?"

case closed


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14 Jul 2016, 5:02 am

rdos wrote:
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It makes absolutely no sense from an evolutionary standpoint that people should seek partners far away, especially when this is not needed for any good reason like inbreeding avoidance. Thus, the natural behavior of humans (both NTs and NDs), is to select a partner within a relatively small pool of people. NDs might need a slightly larger pool because of their lower prevalence around 15%, but we definitely don't need thousands of people to select from. All my partners and crushes lived close to me.
doesn't matter how many there are, it only matters how many you interact with
That's somewhat true, and you cannot interact with 1,000s of people, so therefore, it makes no sense that online dating makes thousands or even millions of potential partners available to you. You cannot interact with all of them anyway, and you cannot even write targeted messages to many of them (unless you are a spammer).
You can meet thousands of people in real life or you can message thousands of people on a dating site. The difference is, on a dating site you know they're single and seeking a partner. In real life you don't have that knowledge.


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14 Jul 2016, 5:03 am

Men are good at posting pointless posts?


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