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20 Aug 2022, 5:35 am

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The problem with such relationship is the woman falls in love with a man's money, not with the man himself. She eventually can and probably will fall in love with the man, but thats only because of the money initially, otherwise it would never happen.


This is rubbish.

I'm intimidated by men with money. I'd never want to marry a rich man. In fact, my partner is quite wealthy and it's one of the reasons I don't want to get married.

Why do you insist women are attracted to money, and especially that autistic women like men's money?


Also why would she eventually fall in love with a guy she's using? This sounds like the rich guy's fantasy. If a man creates an abusive relationship with a woman, controlling her actions, way of dressing, and friendships, he isn't going to suddenly trust and fall in love with her. Real people don't work this way.

And...has any man in history genuinely thought women are going to like him for his money? This seems like what men think when they're rejected for who they are. Then they become more entrenched in their shallowness, "figuring out" what women want.



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20 Aug 2022, 6:30 am

Some women are attracted to riches……just like some men are attracted to riches.

Some people are just materialistic.



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20 Aug 2022, 8:44 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
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The problem with such relationship is the woman falls in love with a man's money, not with the man himself. She eventually can and probably will fall in love with the man, but thats only because of the money initially, otherwise it would never happen.


This is rubbish.

I'm intimidated by men with money. I'd never want to marry a rich man. In fact, my partner is quite wealthy and it's one of the reasons I don't want to get married.

Why do you insist women are attracted to money, and especially that autistic women like men's money?

If you disagree thats your choice, I'm doing nothing more but sharing my personal opinion based on past experiences and as well as relationships with women, as well as watching relationships of my friends with other women and what they told me themselves, and so on. Its based on quite a few reliable things I've encountered / heard, so I dont think I'm just talking "rubbish", as you call it, but let's just say, you can disagree and thats fine, but I think, whether the woman is autistic or not is irrelevant. If she is an adult(18+) she knows a thing or two about money and the huge impact a man's income can have on things when it comes to marriage, children, house, car, and so on... but whats unfair here is the wrong treatment of men by women as a walking money machine... we dont pick up the money from anywhere, it doesnt grow on trees... I for example work very hard for my monthly income and its not even that high at all to be honest. If a woman asks me financial questions, especially at the beginning of a relationship(on first date for example), I'd stay away from that woman unless I am confident she didnt mean to be a gold digger. Also not just by financial questions, but by the way she acts in regards to paying for things... if she expect me to pay all the time and she almost never pays, its a bad sign, its not a relationship I'd want to get into with somebody. Love is supposed to be based on attraction to each other, trusting each other and so on... not about how rich or poor the man, or woman, is. Its always welcomed to have more money so you can afford the basic needs of forming a family, marriage, children and so on...but thats not what relationships are supposed to be about. You love someone for who he/she is, the money is only a secondary thing. There are rich men out there who dont mind dating gold diggers or even marrying gold diggers, but thats their choice, it doesnt necessarily mean they've made the right choice.


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20 Aug 2022, 9:22 am

I'm not going to read 6 pages of replies so I'll try to stick to the original post.

I think some of this here in the US has to do with the different gender rolls & employment situation. Women tend to earn less money than men & lots of employers do not provide paid family & medical leave. Sometimes women risk losing their jobs for missing work for an extended period for things like pregnancy. Lots of people have their health insurance through their employers & if the employees lose their jobs they also lose their health insurance. Plus some employers have hour requirements for employees to keep their health insurance so sometimes when women miss a lot of work for reasons like pregnancy & maternity leave, they risk losing their health insurance even if they are technically still employed & working some. Also lots of women are raised with the expectation that a woman's primary job should be taking care of the household & the kids, aka domestic responsibilities. Considering these things it makes sense to me that women would be concerned about their partner's finachial situation. It would majorly s#ck for the family if a woman were to lose her job & health insurance due to her getting pregnant when she was the primary or equal finachial provider for the household :(

I have no experience dating gold diggers due to me being born with various disabilities. When I was working I was making just over federal minimum-wage & I was EXTREMELY LUCKY to get hired for those jobs. I've been told that lots of employers for those types of jobs get hundreds of apps & don't have time to go through them all. I do have disability benefits but the only benefits I ever had were SSI & Medicaid & nowadays I have Social Security Disability, Medicare, & Medicaid. Inflation always rapidly increases while various gov benefits & minimum-wage barely rise if at all. I MAJORLY struggled to get relationships as a result of being disabled. If I had come into a lot of money when I was single(like if my parents won the Powerball jackpot lottery) I'm sure I woulda had a much easier time getting a girlfriend/wife. I coulda afforded my own place & she would not of had to worry about needing to be employed nor dealing with gov benefits & paperwork & the stress of what we will do when the people in power abolish the Social Security system :pale:

My current girlfriend has various disabilities & has various gov benefits including housing & she never expected a relationship partner to provide for her financial needs. She believes she's very lucky to have someone to relates to her, understands her, & tries his best to be supportive. I want to provide more financially because it would be good for our mental health not to stress about money as much. Maybe I'll start looking for a part time job after Halloween. Cass is dealing with some health issues right now that would hopefully be better & we have travel plans to visit my parents at the end of next month.


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20 Aug 2022, 2:59 pm

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I'm not going to read 6 pages of replies so I'll try to stick to the original post.

I think some of this here in the US has to do with the different gender rolls & employment situation. Women tend to earn less money than men & lots of employers do not provide paid family & medical leave. Sometimes women risk losing their jobs for missing work for an extended period for things like pregnancy. Lots of people have their health insurance through their employers & if the employees lose their jobs they also lose their health insurance. Plus some employers have hour requirements for employees to keep their health insurance so sometimes when women miss a lot of work for reasons like pregnancy & maternity leave, they risk losing their health insurance even if they are technically still employed & working some. Also lots of women are raised with the expectation that a woman's primary job should be taking care of the household & the kids, aka domestic responsibilities. Considering these things it makes sense to me that women would be concerned about their partner's finachial situation. It would majorly s#ck for the family if a woman were to lose her job & health insurance due to her getting pregnant when she was the primary or equal finachial provider for the household :(

I have no experience dating gold diggers due to me being born with various disabilities. When I was working I was making just over federal minimum-wage & I was EXTREMELY LUCKY to get hired for those jobs. I've been told that lots of employers for those types of jobs get hundreds of apps & don't have time to go through them all. I do have disability benefits but the only benefits I ever had were SSI & Medicaid & nowadays I have Social Security Disability, Medicare, & Medicaid. Inflation always rapidly increases while various gov benefits & minimum-wage barely rise if at all. I MAJORLY struggled to get relationships as a result of being disabled. If I had come into a lot of money when I was single(like if my parents won the Powerball jackpot lottery) I'm sure I woulda had a much easier time getting a girlfriend/wife. I coulda afforded my own place & she would not of had to worry about needing to be employed nor dealing with gov benefits & paperwork & the stress of what we will do when the people in power abolish the Social Security system :pale:

My current girlfriend has various disabilities & has various gov benefits including housing & she never expected a relationship partner to provide for her financial needs. She believes she's very lucky to have someone to relates to her, understands her, & tries his best to be supportive. I want to provide more financially because it would be good for our mental health not to stress about money as much. Maybe I'll start looking for a part time job after Halloween. Cass is dealing with some health issues right now that would hopefully be better & we have travel plans to visit my parents at the end of next month.

To be honest, I disagree with the "women make less money than men" concept. Maybe in your country things can be different, but its not a fair situation where the man makes more and that automatically means the woman can sit at home all day and enjoy being the gold digger who only does some basic home chores and thats it. I dont like that, its not a fair situation to be in for a man. There are probably couples who are fine with that but its probably rare. Its not desirable and is a bad habit, women need to work and earn money, not wait for the man to get back home every evening and bring the food to the table, thats great of course, but the woman needs to work too, she doesnt HAVE to be making the same amount as the man does but she still needs to go to work anyways. Say whatever you want in this thread everyone, but I think, a relationship in which the man goes to work and the woman remains unemployed is a terrible relationship, its unfair for the man and the only men who are okay with being in this type of relationship/situation are just idiots who fail to understand the unfairness of the situation they are in. Women need to work too, end of story.


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20 Aug 2022, 3:10 pm

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Some women are attracted to riches……just like some men are attracted to riches.

Some people are just materialistic.

They're some of the most unhealthy individuals I know.

There's nothing healthy about those relationships.


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20 Aug 2022, 3:17 pm

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To be honest, I disagree with the "women make less money than men" concept. Maybe in your country things can be different, but its not a fair situation where the man makes more and that automatically means the woman can sit at home all day and enjoy being the gold digger who only does some basic home chores and thats it. I dont like that, its not a fair situation to be in for a man. There are probably couples who are fine with that but its probably rare. Its not desirable and is a bad habit, women need to work and earn money, not wait for the man to get back home every evening and bring the food to the table, thats great of course, but the woman needs to work too, she doesnt HAVE to be making the same amount as the man does but she still needs to go to work anyways. Say whatever you want in this thread everyone, but I think, a relationship in which the man goes to work and the woman remains unemployed is a terrible relationship, its unfair for the man and the only men who are okay with being in this type of relationship/situation are just idiots who fail to understand the unfairness of the situation they are in. Women need to work too, end of story.

BS. I know of many controlling men who are in this type of relationship because they want a slave.

Are you really that oblivious?


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20 Aug 2022, 3:27 pm

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Well, some women have a tendency to be gold diggers, even if they dont really mean to be always intentionally. They just like rich men who have alot of money, and if she asks alot of financial questions, its obviously the case.

Can you explain what you think about this subject generally, and if you have dated someone in the past, who was a gold digger? If yes, how did you find out she was a gold digger?

I dated someone like that myself in the past. I found out by the fact she asked alot of financial questions, including how much I earn per month/week, and so on. I didnt want to lie about it, so I told her the real amount and she dumped me on the same day. It wasnt a pleasant experience, for sure. I guess I dont need to tell the truth all the time.


I wouldn't call myself a gold digger as such but I see nothing wrong with allowing a man to take me out and pay for everything as part of a casual arrangement. Its fun and if it makes us both happy for a short while then why not.

In a long term relationship I like to earn my own money and contribute more equally but it is important to me that my partner is financially sound. But that's because I see it as a strength, not necessarily because I want a meal ticket.


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20 Aug 2022, 5:03 pm

I have visions of gold swirls of dust just reading the title of this thread. It's almost like Christmas.


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20 Aug 2022, 5:13 pm

Digging me would be like digging a septic field. :lol:



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20 Aug 2022, 5:28 pm

Digging me would be as frustrating as listening to nails on a chalkboard. :P



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20 Aug 2022, 8:11 pm

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I wouldn't call myself a gold digger as such but I see nothing wrong with allowing a man to take me out and pay for everything as part of a casual arrangement. Its fun and if it makes us both happy for a short while then why not.

In a long term relationship I like to earn my own money and contribute more equally but it is important to me that my partner is financially sound. But that's because I see it as a strength, not necessarily because I want a meal ticket.
If I was rich I would be OK with spending a bit of money on my partner because I want to take care of her & make her happy how I can.

My parents are lower middle class but they grew up poor & were very poor when they 1st got married & never forgot where they came from. Plus my dad was a self-employed construction worker which is a very physically demanding job & my parents wanted a lot of money saved up in case dad were to get hurt or there would be an extended period of very little work available, there were some stretches where work was slow when I was a kid. Most of my classmates had a lot more stuff than I did as a kid but I went to a private high-school cuz I had major problems with school due to learning disabilities & being bullied. My mom put me down a lot when I was not working as an adult till I moved out because she was worried about what would happen to me after her & dad would die. My best effort to find employment was not good enough & when I was employed I worked lots of overtime when I was allowed to & mom was still on my case about me not doing better than minimum-wage employment. My parents tried to get me various assistance & supports but things were very limited. We lived in a hard-core conservative area where any struggling individual needing assistance is thought to be a lazy leech sucking on the teats of the hard-working American taxpayer but it's unpatriotic not to help any big business that wants a bailout. I either did not have the right diagnoses for things or was not severely disabled enough in specific areas instead of my whole picture of various disabilities being looked at. My parents income & living situation was sometimes factored in as well, I didn't need help because I was not homeless.

As a result, I just never been a very materialistic person. I've always been a major homebody & my main interests have always been things that don't require a lot of money like spending time on computer, listening to music, watching TV, & playing video-games. The big expense for that is Xfinity/Comcast. Cant take it with you when you die as they say & I want to be able to have free time to enjoy myself at home & spend time with my partner instead of working 9+ hour days(not counting an hour lunch break) 6 days a week to still majorly struggle financially & hate myself for not measuring up to most others like when I was employed. If i were to suddenly come into a lot of money, I would want to take care of my partner & if I was single & came into a lot of money I woulda sought out a woman who was majorly struggling with life. I would NOT be trying to buy my partner's love or anything like that. I relate to struggling & I majorly want my partner to be better off with me in her life. Living a rich lifestyle does not appeal to me & someone who's used to being poor & struggling their whole life would be much more relatable & on my level.


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21 Aug 2022, 3:38 am

Personally I am not going to marry someone if she does not come from the 9.9 percent in family income and wealth like I do.I just want to marry someone who comes from a similar economic background to me.



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21 Aug 2022, 3:50 am

I honestly don't care about partner's net worth as long as they're responsible with what they're given and are not wasteful.

It usually comes from first-hand experience with how much effort it takes to earn. Partners who have never worked or live with their parents don't have a good appreciation of how much work something takes.



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21 Aug 2022, 5:52 am

I'd rather be a gold spreader than a gold digger. I like to spread the gold around Christmastime.


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