Is really "attractive looking" an individualistic opinion?

Doos (box) can also mean vagina, and it can also mean "female person".
And Kattegat means Cat hole (or cat arse). It was named by medieval sailors so take your pick.
Those dirty old dutch sailors...


Doos (box) can also mean vagina, and it can also mean "female person".
And Kattegat means Cat hole (or cat arse). It was named by medieval sailors so take your pick.
Those dirty old dutch sailors...

I'm watching the tv series Vikings and they live in Kattegat (made up place, generic Scandinavia) named after the Kattegat straits, and I always laught when they say it.

You know cats are not shy to show you their arse if they are not facing you. Sadly, some humans are like that too, when I lived on campus one of our neighbours was a mooner.

You know cats are not shy to show you their arse if they are not facing you. Sadly, some humans are like that too, when I lived on campus one of our neighbours was a mooner.
yes I only accept that type of behaviour from cats.That is not the kind of neighbour I would like to have...
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It's the same with people applying for a job opening. They are looking for 1 person, 1000 people send in their resumees. First they ditch everyone without a university degree, then they ditch everyone with a postal code from a bad neighbourhood, then they ditch everyone over 40, then they ditch everyone with a foreign sounding name, then they ditch all women. At that point they are left with 10 people they are willing to invite for the job interview and the other 990 get a letter saying "thank you for your interest" if they are lucky. Very cynical, but that's how the world is.
If that how it works I must be really weird

I made contact on a site with my bf, and then we started chatting, I never cared what he did for a living or any such things. What was important for me was that when we started chatting, it went natural and he was easy to talk to and that we shared the same humor

I also did not give him my picture directly; I gave it after a while. I didn't have my picture on the profile, and strange thing was a got a lot of perverts writing to me...

But to go on dates with people, just after reading a profile or so sounds like a nightmare to me...
how long did you chat online before meeting up?
I prever to do text based chat for a few weeks to get to know someone before meeting. atleast a week. I now feel maybe this is part of why I have bad luck with women on sites.
I did once a thread with this controversial question, and most females answered they would feel sad, but really....I think this is an ugly truth for many women who found their bfs on dating sites: They had choices while their bfs didn't.
still have one choice. we don't have to date the woman just cause shes the only one who messaged us.
think its silly to consider what ifs, especially ones you can never truly know the answer to.
why do you want to harp on other peoples relationships?
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I did once a thread with this controversial question, and most females answered they would feel sad, but really....I think this is an ugly truth for many women who found their bfs on dating sites: They had choices while their bfs didn't.
still have one choice. we don't have to date the woman just cause shes the only one who messaged us.
think its silly to consider what ifs, especially ones you can never truly know the answer to.
why do you want to harp on other peoples relationships?
I don't want to harp on other people's relationships.
But no, one "choice" is really not a choice, come on.
Yes, there's always the choice to not go for it, but when you only one choice you would be like "what to lose?".
Come on, sly, if a girl right now messages you for a meetup, wouldn't you go for it? Even if you find hard semi-interesting and semi-attractive to you? I bet you would, that doesn't happen often to you.
But would you do it if there are 100 others messaging you wanting the same? I bet you would reconsider.
It's common sense.
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I prever to do text based chat for a few weeks to get to know someone before meeting. atleast a week. I now feel maybe this is part of why I have bad luck with women on sites.
Sly, we chatted for a bit less than 2 months and then we met. And we chatted daily before our meeting. I think that it is a very good method to get to know someone before meeting. It takes away a lot of the nerves and since you already know each other it makes it easier.
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Few years ago a girl kept chatting with me for 7-8 months, and she stopped texting just the day after the first meetup.
It was just a regular first meetup and we talked about hobbies and careers, I didn't do anything stupid, she did say she expected me taller tho lol. What a huge waste of time and energy.
So no, it's not awalys the best way. I prefer one week+, the girl would either like you or not on first date, even if you chat with her in prior for million of years.
It was just a regular first meetup and we talked about hobbies and careers, I didn't do anything stupid, she did say she expected me taller tho lol. What a huge waste of time and energy.
So no, it's not awalys the best way. I prefer one week+, the girl would either like you or not on first date, even if you chat with her in prior for million of years.
That's a shame Boo, but it doesn't mean that every girl is like that. And you have to remember that it works different for everyone, one thing might work for me, but it doesn't mean that it works for you or someone else.
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums/viewt ... p?t=275336
and it was repeated later (I tried Meghreb and Europe), I got exactly the same results as ~4 months ago: http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums/viewt ... &start=450.
Just to explain what's tinder to those who don't know: it's a kind of Hot or not app, you see a pic of someone of the opposite sex and you either tap like or not then you see the next guy/girl....etc, the person who likes you back will be a match and you can chat with her/him.
I get loads of matches in Meghreb and they often call me "beau gosse"; and same in most Asian countries; by loads of Matches I mean by 100+ in few days, you can see numbers in first link.
This is a screenshot when I faked my location as Morocco:

My results can be summed as:
-Insane number of matches in Meghreb (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria); like 60+ out of 100 in second tryout in Morocco.
-Similarly insane number of matches in Asian countries.
-Horribly low number of matches in White-dominated countries, even some Zeros in countries like Germany and Ukraine although there's a high Tinder activity there (log histories on their profile show last x hours, last x minutes active...etc), got only few matches with Asian-looking and darkish girls.
-In mixed areas like the some states in US, I get only few matches with minorities of people of color, Blacks, Arabs and Persians in particular despite most profiles swiped weren't of those, the very few blondes I got matched with seem to have Italian fetish because they all thought I am Italian.
Imagine the impact difference: If I was in Meghreb or Asian country I would be have the choice to date someone I pick (out of the many matches who btw...always respond to messages) every weekend and I would have to filter through and that's from the Tinder app only, while if I was in Ukraine or Germany, I would be thankful with whatever Match I get there because virtually almost none is liking me back there.
However, this thread is not to discuss Tinder again, but:
My tinder experiments made me question the women's degree of individualism when it comes to what they find attractive (and what's not). (men are probably the same according to this okcupid experiment http://jonmillward.com/blog/attraction- ... xperiment/)
Doesn't this experiment expose that people are NOT that individualistic when it comes to their taste in the opposite sex? I mean how else can you explain that the same person is seen highly attractive by the majority of one community but totally not in another?
As if each community follow some bible of what's attractive and what's not they all collectively follow

I mean, if t was like 10+ or few matches out 100 all across all the countries, then that may mean that opinions are individualist.
Imagine if one is born and living in an area where he's not seen conventionally attractive by the majority (often almost all according to this experiment, it's either all or none) then he might really end up alone.
So yeah, ladies, I really now doubt your individualism when it comes to what you call "my type" and "not my type"; according to this experiment, it should be phrased "You're (not) what_the_majority_of_women_here's type" or simply "You are (Not) OUR type" - Borg hive-mind style

Those are some fascinating regional differences you found. It really does point to a strong cultural influence on who we consider attractive.
When I was young (and I'm talking in the early teens, 13 or 14) girls in groups would compare the boys of our school (as well as celebrities from movies/TV) against each other. Boys with certain features (look of hair, of face, of carrying himself etc.) were on the "approved" list of boys to have crushes on. If you had a crush on a boy who did not have at least one of these features, you got shamed by the girls unless you could come up with a redeeming feature that would make up for his lack of other accepted features; plays guitar, has traveled to a another country(which was a big deal in the U.S. because other countries were unattainably distant unless you lived on the Mexican or Canadian border), has an amazing and obscure yet cool skill. Wealth did not factor in because it was a public school attended entirely by kids of the same socioeconomic slice of the middle class so we all shared economic class.
It was some pretty intense social pressure to find certain features attractive. I succumbed to it and would hide crushes on "unacceptable" boys while faking crushes on "acceptable" boys. That sort of pressure let up with age but I think it leaves its' mark.
While the things we found attractive were probably particular to our region (as you discovered), I really doubt that the female social pressure was unique. Girls, especially girls in the 12-15 bracket age, can exert some really fierce peer pressure. This would inevitably freeze out a small handful of male pariahs who didn't have either any of the "hot" traits or any of the traits that were accepted stand-ins for "hot" (if you were ugly but spoke fluent French, you were golden- that lucky boy). Even girls who rebelliously went for out-group boys ("those girls can't tell me what to do") still went for boys with some standout "cool" characteristic (even if it wasn't physical attractiveness) and the pariahs remained pariahs. I would bet lots of money that girls from Morocco to Russia to anywhere in the world have convened the same girl groups to arrive at what the local definition of "hot" will be.
As you discovered, that definition of what is "hot" varies pretty wildly but I suspect the way of arriving at it does not. There really is a local consensus formed in early girlhood of what "attractive" shall be. Even the girls who actively ignore it are still aware of it and aware they are ignoring it (or perhaps rebelling against it).
I suppose a take home lesson for men here is that your fortunes can change by moving. It now occurs to me that some men here have complained that they only get positive attention on dating sites from women very geographically far from them. They curse the terrible luck but perhaps it is showing how regional their perceived unattractiveness may be.
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BINGO! 1000X BINGO!!
Mystery solved.
Your theory makes perfect sense and it explains the okcupid stats that shows that 80% of girls are attracted to only 20% of men:

So all in all, whether the reason is biological, cultural, childhood or mix of all.....we get to the same conclusion about girls' taste in guys: C.L.O.N.E.S
And let me guess Janissy, short and shy boys were considered unapproved.
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