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03 Jun 2019, 12:37 pm

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It's probably hard being an atheist in the Levant...

Concrete example: the other day I was chatting with a local girl, she didn’t mention her religion but I figured she’s Christian since she’s from a predominately Christian part of the city; yet she happens to work where I live.
Also she mentioned she just came back from the pool last weekend so it means she’s not fasting, so most likely she is Christian rather than a non-practicing Muslim. When I told her that I just came back from the pool too her reaction was “but aren’t you fasting in this month??”.
So she also figured from which demography I am, and was expecting me to be fasting.

Funnily, when Christians learn I am an atheist former Muslim they often try to convince to go for Christianity or at least to re-believe in Islam; for both demographics Atheism is much worse than either religion.

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03 Jun 2019, 12:38 pm

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Twilightprincess wrote:

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Most liberal people in conservative parts of the country have relationships. There’s no need to move unless you want to anyway.

How do you know that for sure? I am not saying that Mark is right in his claim but what makes you sure that your claim is more correct?

I can relate to Mark somehow, I live in “bible belt” too... more accurately in a “All-Abrahamic books belt” lol (I live in a country of 40% christians, 50% muslims and 10% druze and others)... atheists are very few.

Are you telling me that me being an ex-muslim atheist doesn’t affect my dating chances with the locals? That it doesn’t shrink my dating pool by 10 times at least?

Hell, even the Christians at work don’t like it when they see me not fasting in Ramadan like what is expected from Muslims, and it’s not even a practice related to their religion. In other term they respect Muslims over atheists (and vice versa), and big time too.

There are a lot of liberal people in a place like Austin. There were even liberal people in conservative parts of the country I’ve visited, like rural Kentucky (I have family that lives there).

Even if the dating pool is smaller, it’s still not impossible. It helps to be near a big city where there is more people and, thus, a greater opportunity for diversity.

But he has no car if I am not mistaken.
Also most liberals aren’t autistics/living with mom/having low paying job like him, there are other factors in hand here.

Lots of people these days are in the same boat. Finding someone is by no means impossible here.

Equally for both genders?

Let’s be bit realistic here.

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03 Jun 2019, 12:40 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

It's probably hard being an atheist in the Levant...

People in religious areas assume that one can’t be moral, happy or have a sense of purpose without believing in a deity.

But there are almost always exceptions.

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03 Jun 2019, 1:10 pm

Boo lives in Lebanon. He has to be a bit more careful than we do in the US.

He's not in Saudi Arabia----but he still has to be a bit careful.

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03 Jun 2019, 1:10 pm

Nah... don’t listen to me.

Just be friendly and all magically will be ok.

*giggles*

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03 Jun 2019, 1:20 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Nah... don’t listen to me.

Just be friendly and all magically will be ok.

*giggles*

It might not be easy but there’s no reason to give up, either.

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03 Jun 2019, 1:20 pm

Frankly, when it comes to dating issues, I think it is a mistake to go to a therapist of the opposite sex; a man will never understand the women’s dating issues and likewise a woman will never understand the men’s dating issues; no matter how many PhDs they have.

Just look into Norah Vincent’s Self-Made Man book who talked about her experiment experiencing living as a man for 18 months; she mentioned that living as a different gender is like changing to a different channel on TV, it was a totally different world for her; she even tried to date straight women as a “straight man” and she admitted to discover struggles that she would never have thought of before. And Norah is a feminist lesbian and liberal so she isn’t even the typical woman.

So yeah... how in hell his therapist is gonna relate to his issues? They don’t teach this in academics so it’s impossible.

I think Mark needs a male therapist for that, and preferably a young one.

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03 Jun 2019, 1:43 pm

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It might not be easy but there’s no reason to give up, either.

Yeah, but ... If you try something just once, and you fail, isn't that a 100% failure rate? Doesn't it mean that you are 100% certain to fail if you try again?

:wink:

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03 Jun 2019, 1:56 pm

Fnord wrote:

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It might not be easy but there’s no reason to give up, either.

Yeah, but ... If you try something just once, and you fail, isn't that a 100% failure rate? Doesn't it mean that you are 100% certain to fail if you try again?

:wink:

True...

It’s best just to give up in this case. If one woman says “no,” they all will.

Of course, since all women want bad boys, encouraging some to become bad is equally sound advice. A couple of tattoos and prison time might be the way to go.

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03 Jun 2019, 2:20 pm

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He lives, probably, an hour's drive from Austin----which is a liberal enclave.

Then the problem is probably not the locale...

I don’t think that spending a lot of time and energy focusing on one’s location, which probably isn’t the main hurdle in this scenario, will probably help that much. it’s important to figure out what the actual problem is.

You probably need to find people you have stuff in common with and cultivate friendships with people of both genders. Sometimes this involves going outside of one’s comfort zone, but it’s not impossible.

My location is indeed part of the problem. I am surrounded by churches, dive bars, and ghetto apartments. There is a shopping mall here but most of the people who go there are younger than me and they already have groups of friends so they don't want to hang out with me. The bowling alley here is also extremely expensive and some of my detractors go there on a regular basis so I avoid going completely. There is a place to play Magic, DnD, and Warhammer here but I can't afford those types of hobbies and I am not well versed in those sorts of gaming nor do any of the people I know who go there are willing to help me. They just push me to the wayside. About the only place I can go and be myself here is the local comic book store that's been here for a year now but it's struggling to stay in business and a digital casino was built next to it, excarbating its struggles.

I go to Austin sometime but my attempts to make friendships there have ended in failure.

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03 Jun 2019, 2:24 pm

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He lives, probably, an hour's drive from Austin----which is a liberal enclave.

Most places in America have lots of churches, dive bars, and ghetto apartments. My town certainly does.

How many “detractors” do you have and what do they do?

Have you checked out local libraries to see if they do any type of social groups?

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03 Jun 2019, 2:52 pm

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It might not be easy but there’s no reason to give up, either.

Yeah, but ... If you try something just once, and you fail, isn't that a 100% failure rate? Doesn't it mean that you are 100% certain to fail if you try again?

True... It’s best just to give up in this case. If one woman says “no,” they all will. Of course, since all women want bad boys, encouraging some to become bad is equally sound advice. A couple of tattoos and prison time might be the way to go.

Don't forget the over-tan on the back of the neck; that shows he spends all of his days outdoors doing redneckeddy things like plowing, planting, and feeding farm animals. Women love the smell of a hard-working farmboy, especially after he's had a couple beers and some greasy buffalo wings at the local bar.

:lol:

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03 Jun 2019, 3:15 pm

Fnord wrote:

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Fnord wrote:

Twilightprincess wrote:

It might not be easy but there’s no reason to give up, either.

Yeah, but ... If you try something just once, and you fail, isn't that a 100% failure rate? Doesn't it mean that you are 100% certain to fail if you try again?

True... It’s best just to give up in this case. If one woman says “no,” they all will. Of course, since all women want bad boys, encouraging some to become bad is equally sound advice. A couple of tattoos and prison time might be the way to go.

Oh man!

That specific combination of smells... So familiar, yet so vomit-inducing.

He also needs a pair of extremely smelly work boots to take off that he’s been sweating in all day to provide the complete sensory experience.

No baths until after the beer and wings have been fully digested.

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03 Jun 2019, 4:34 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Twilightprincess wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Twilightprincess wrote:

It might not be easy but there’s no reason to give up, either.

Yeah, but ... If you try something just once, and you fail, isn't that a 100% failure rate? Doesn't it mean that you are 100% certain to fail if you try again?

True... It’s best just to give up in this case. If one woman says “no,” they all will. Of course, since all women want bad boys, encouraging some to become bad is equally sound advice. A couple of tattoos and prison time might be the way to go.

... He also needs a pair of extremely smelly work boots to take off that he’s been sweating in all day to provide the complete sensory experience. No baths until after the beer and wings have been fully digested.

YEE-HAW!! Now yer talkin! What woman wouldn't fall for such a fine specimen of manly manhood. Yep! Them redneck boys got us all beat six ways from Sunday! Ain't no normal boy gonna stand a chance against a flock o'redneck farmboys ... 'specially if'n they was all carryin a Bible and preaching agin sin and immorality ...

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03 Jun 2019, 4:44 pm

Fnord wrote:

Twilightprincess wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Twilightprincess wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Twilightprincess wrote:

It might not be easy but there’s no reason to give up, either.

Yeah, but ... If you try something just once, and you fail, isn't that a 100% failure rate? Doesn't it mean that you are 100% certain to fail if you try again?

True... It’s best just to give up in this case. If one woman says “no,” they all will. Of course, since all women want bad boys, encouraging some to become bad is equally sound advice. A couple of tattoos and prison time might be the way to go.

All while wearing confederate flag bandannas on their heads that keep stray hair from their mullets in place...

Women just love this sort of stuff!

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03 Jun 2019, 4:46 pm

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He also needs a pair of extremely smelly work boots to take off that he’s been sweating in all day to provide the complete sensory experience.

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