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05 Jun 2024, 11:56 am

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Where did I mention abuse or trivialise it?.......the thread isn't even about abuse.

You’re the one who brought up the topic of consent which is absurd.


Consent is a varied topic. Not respecting consent can include not taking no for an answer, pressuring people into dojng what theh dknt want to do but also mocking other for past sexual encounters, making it difficult to meet potential partners and other stuff.


How is that interfering with consent. It seems like you're trying to insist making someone insecure or cockblocking them is actually denying their ability to consent, which is pure guano.


Because once people are above 16 or 18, whatever is the age of consent, they can seek out what sexual encounters or partners they like.

Being obnoxious and knowingly getting in their way or stringing someone along into celibacy isn't respecting consent.

Consent is as much about yes as it is no. Why do I need to tell people this?



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05 Jun 2024, 11:59 am

Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
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Where did I mention abuse or trivialise it?.......the thread isn't even about abuse.

You’re the one who brought up the topic of consent which is absurd.


Consent is a varied topic. Not respecting consent can include not taking no for an answer, pressuring people into dojng what theh dknt want to do but also mocking other for past sexual encounters, making it difficult to meet potential partners and other stuff.


How is that interfering with consent. It seems like you're trying to insist making someone insecure or cockblocking them is actually denying their ability to consent, which is pure guano.


Because once people are above 16 or 18, whatever is the age of consent, they can seek out what sexual encounters or partners they like.

Being obnoxious and knowingly getting in their way or stringing someone along into celibacy isn't respecting consent.

Consent is as much about yes as it is no. Why do I need to tell people this?

This is delusional nonsense. Unless someone was in some way forcing a person to stay in a relationship, consent has nothing to do with it. Either person could leave at anytime.

I think people need to get a handle on what consent and nonconsent actually are.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:01 pm

Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
Nades wrote:


Where did I mention abuse or trivialise it?.......the thread isn't even about abuse.

You’re the one who brought up the topic of consent which is absurd.


Consent is a varied topic. Not respecting consent can include not taking no for an answer, pressuring people into dojng what theh dknt want to do but also mocking other for past sexual encounters, making it difficult to meet potential partners and other stuff.


How is that interfering with consent. It seems like you're trying to insist making someone insecure or cockblocking them is actually denying their ability to consent, which is pure guano.


Because once people are above 16 or 18, whatever is the age of consent, they can seek out what sexual encounters or partners they like.

Being obnoxious and knowingly getting in their way or stringing someone along into celibacy isn't respecting consent.

Consent is as much about yes as it is no. Why do I need to tell people this?


Thank you for confirming your understanding of consent is pure guano and that therefore any conclusions you attempt to make based on this understanding will also be pure guano.

Cockblocking denies someone their ability to consent is a completely deranged take. Please tell us you're trolling. Please tell me you're just f*****g with me and don't take what you're saying seriously because what you're saying can not be taken seriously.


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05 Jun 2024, 12:03 pm

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This is delusional nonsense. Unless someone was forcing or threatening someone to stay in a relationship, consent has nothing to do with it. Either person could leave at anytime.

I think people need to get a handle on what consent and nonconsent actually are.


Leaving at any time is another can of worms. I'm surprised you brought this up. I'm very aware that sometimes it's hard to leave because of emotional abuse, bullying, threats and all else in between.

One of the virgin womem who was after me many years ago tried to bully me into a relationship. It didn't even get to a first date obviously



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05 Jun 2024, 12:04 pm

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This is delusional nonsense. Unless someone was in some way forcing a person to stay in a relationship, consent has nothing to do with it. Either person could leave at anytime.

I think people need to get a handle on what consent and nonconsent actually are.


For that matter, one can cheat on their non-sexual partner. Pretending being with someone who doesn't f**k denies that person their right to consent to sex shows a complete non-understanding of how consent works.


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05 Jun 2024, 12:05 pm

Nades wrote:
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This is delusional nonsense. Unless someone was forcing or threatening someone to stay in a relationship, consent has nothing to do with it. Either person could leave at anytime.

I think people need to get a handle on what consent and nonconsent actually are.


Leaving at any time is another can of worms. I'm surprised you brought this up. I'm very aware that sometimes it's hard to leave because of emotional abuse, bullying, threats and all else in between.

One of the virgin womem who was after me many years ago tried to bully me into a relationship. It didn't even get to a first date obviously

Emotional abuse, bullying, or threats were not brought up. Once again, you seem to be groping for stuff to support your bias even when no evidence has been provided.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:06 pm

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Thank you for confirming your understanding of consent is pure guano and that therefore any conclusions you attempt to make based on this understanding will also be pure guano.

Cockblocking denies someone their ability to consent is a completely deranged take. Please tell us you're trolling. Please tell me you're just f*****g with me and don't take what you're saying seriously because what you're saying can not be taken seriously.


Ummm no. Read up on the age of consent and what it means.

There is also a "Yes" to consent too that. I think you're conflating the right to seek out consensual acts to actually demanding them.

The former you're allowed to do by law. The latter you're not.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:07 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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This is delusional nonsense. Unless someone was in some way forcing a person to stay in a relationship, consent has nothing to do with it. Either person could leave at anytime.

I think people need to get a handle on what consent and nonconsent actually are.


For that matter, one can cheat on their non-sexual partner. Pretending being with someone who doesn't f**k denies that person their right to consent to sex shows a complete non-understanding of how consent works.

Absolutely. People can masturbate too, not that that’s for everyone; I’m just sayin’.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:07 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
This is delusional nonsense. Unless someone was in some way forcing a person to stay in a relationship, consent has nothing to do with it. Either person could leave at anytime.

I think people need to get a handle on what consent and nonconsent actually are.


For that matter, one can cheat on their non-sexual partner. Pretending being with someone who doesn't f**k denies that person their right to consent to sex shows a complete non-understanding of how consent works.


They can indeed cheat.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:09 pm

Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Thank you for confirming your understanding of consent is pure guano and that therefore any conclusions you attempt to make based on this understanding will also be pure guano.

Cockblocking denies someone their ability to consent is a completely deranged take. Please tell us you're trolling. Please tell me you're just f*****g with me and don't take what you're saying seriously because what you're saying can not be taken seriously.


Ummm no. Read up on the age of consent and what it means.

There is also a "Yes" to consent too that. I think you're conflating the right to seek out consensual acts to actually demanding them.

The former you're allowed to do by law. The latter you're not.


Explain how not having sex with someone actually violates their consent. Explain it to me like I'm five.

Clearly you're the only person who understands how consent works, rather than someone who's understanding clashes with typical understandings.


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05 Jun 2024, 12:12 pm

Consent is off-topic here because it has nothing to do with the relationships that have been discussed. It’s a bit triggering for people to make such an uninformed claim especially in a community where people experienced true nonconsent. Such misinformation could have negative impacts on people’s future relationships.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:12 pm

^^^^^^ the above is......^^^^^^. very poignant .


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05 Jun 2024, 12:13 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Thank you for confirming your understanding of consent is pure guano and that therefore any conclusions you attempt to make based on this understanding will also be pure guano.

Cockblocking denies someone their ability to consent is a completely deranged take. Please tell us you're trolling. Please tell me you're just f*****g with me and don't take what you're saying seriously because what you're saying can not be taken seriously.


Ummm no. Read up on the age of consent and what it means.

There is also a "Yes" to consent too that. I think you're conflating the right to seek out consensual acts to actually demanding them.

The former you're allowed to do by law. The latter you're not.


Explain how not having sex with someone actually violates their consent. Explain it to me like I'm five.

Clearly you're the only person who understands how consent works, rather than someone who's understanding clashes with typical understandings.


You need to read what I said from the first post. It mainly hinges on what appears to be a woman with no intention of ever having an intimate relationship, singling out someone with social skill difficulties and assuming he'll be OK with a being suckered into an endless celibate relationship.

Seen it happen plenty of times.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:14 pm

I wonder, are the remarks by Nades on the topic of consent related to the theme of deception that has been discussed by him, i.e, he didn't consent to being strung along in a sexless relationship, which he believes was a move motivated by someone who disrespects disabled folk and discriminates against them, thinking of them as sexless beings?

Just a thought... :chin:



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05 Jun 2024, 12:15 pm

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I wonder, are the remarks by Nades on the topic of consent related to the theme of deception that has been discussed by him, i.e, he didn't consent to being strung along in a sexless relationship, which he believes was a move motivated by someone who disrespects disabled folk and discriminates against them, thinking of them as sexless beings?

Just a thought... :chin:


Yes, this is WP though.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:15 pm

Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Thank you for confirming your understanding of consent is pure guano and that therefore any conclusions you attempt to make based on this understanding will also be pure guano.

Cockblocking denies someone their ability to consent is a completely deranged take. Please tell us you're trolling. Please tell me you're just f*****g with me and don't take what you're saying seriously because what you're saying can not be taken seriously.


Ummm no. Read up on the age of consent and what it means.

There is also a "Yes" to consent too that. I think you're conflating the right to seek out consensual acts to actually demanding them.

The former you're allowed to do by law. The latter you're not.


Explain how not having sex with someone actually violates their consent. Explain it to me like I'm five.

Clearly you're the only person who understands how consent works, rather than someone who's understanding clashes with typical understandings.


You need to read what I said from the first post. It mainly hinges on what appears to be a woman with no intention of ever having an intimate relationship, singling out someone with social skill difficulties and assuming he'll be OK with a being suckered into an endless celibate relationship.

Seen it happen plenty of times.

So you’re saying that this is primarily about your own biases and hangups?