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02 Dec 2010, 12:16 am

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He is a fantastic guy. Every other guy i've been with has been abusive - and I can't accept that this one isn't. It's just so alien to me.

Ugh. I don't know why i'm so screwed up in the head - why can't I just keep enjoying it instead of thinking he must have some other motive for being so nice to me all the time?


Yeah, I have to adjust to this with my bf too. I love him dearly, I do. Please talk to him about this because I wouldn't risk losing something this good. >.<



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02 Dec 2010, 12:49 am

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OP, for the love of God, talk to your therapist about this. You are self-handicapping the hell out of yourself, and I hope you'll stop before you destroy this relationship.

Here's the deal: you were raised in a dysfunctional family, where abuse went hand-in-hand with caretaking. Your parents taught you that there is no love without pain. When your bf provides love without pain, it doesn't feel "authentic" to you - it doesn't feel real or right. You've been through a string of abusive relationships where your parents' original message of love and pain was reinforced. You keep expecting this guy to follow the same path, and when he doesn't, the dissonance created doesn't go unnoticed by your conscious or subconscious, and anxiety starts to build. You want to relieve the anxiety, and you turn to the dysfunctional methods of relieving stress and anxiety that you were taught as a child: fight, yell, scream....causing the storm to find the calm after.

Oh, and yes, you also don't believe you deserve happiness, a functional relationship, a nice guy, security, blah, blah, blah, because you were taught that you weren't worth that as a child. Good news: this is exactly the kind of stuff your therapist can help you with - and she will not judge you, or think that you're stupid. If she's a decent therapist, she already knows that you need to address this issue, and will be eager to help you with it. Go forth and heal, OP - you'll be glad you did.


Brilliant post. I wholeheartedly agree.


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02 Dec 2010, 1:49 am

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Me too. You should really think about it emlion, what you're going through is typical for abused women - a therapist could help you a lot.

Be happy


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02 Dec 2010, 4:35 am

So, I woke up today and read all my posts + all your responses and I see my therapist tomorrow anyone - so i'll tell her all about this, she knows about my past and stuff, but I never really told her how it makes me feel sometimes in relation to my boyfriend. I will now. I really don't want to be without him.



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02 Dec 2010, 4:40 am

Wow - that's great, I really think she can help you. Many women went through this and put their life back together, you're not alone. Regardless of what you think, you deserve a good life and a man who treats you right. Good luck!

BTW - cool avatar


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02 Dec 2010, 5:01 am

Thanks ^^ Dexter is awesomee. :heart:

Things are looking much better in the morning (and it's been snowing again & Stefan made me a mini snowman and put him in the freezer for me when I woke up.) He also left me a note saying 'We can do this. I love you.' on the kitchen table.

I think we can make this okay, so we can both be happy.



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02 Dec 2010, 8:10 am

emlion wrote:
Thanks ^^ Dexter is awesomee. :heart:

Things are looking much better in the morning (and it's been snowing again & Stefan made me a mini snowman and put him in the freezer for me when I woke up.) He also left me a note saying 'We can do this. I love you.' on the kitchen table.

I think we can make this okay, so we can both be happy.


Awww. See? You can do eeeeet! ^.^



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02 Dec 2010, 11:25 am

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I'm not kicking him at all - I rarely snap at him specifically, I did once in a really bad way and i'll never do it again. I learned my lesson, because he just backed off and walked away - but that was still standing up to me, as he reacted and didn't just say 'it's okay.'

Things are much better when he stands up to me - we didn't argue hardly at all.
And 'standing up to me' isn't the same as threatening or anything like that.
It just means putting his view across instead of being a doormat.


Here's what I'm understanding, and correct me if I am wrong. You want a balance from him. You very much want him to be a nice guy, you love that he's a nice guy, and you love that he treats you well. But you don't only want him being nice. If you treat him bad and he is upset, you want him to act appropriately. You DO NOT want him to "understand" you or agree with you for the sole sake of keeping the peace. If you are treating him poorly, YOU DESERVE to have him let you know it. he's not doing you any good otherwise. Am I getting this at all?

Having him be up front with you, honest with you, letting you know when he doesn't agree with you, and being assertive with you is NOT AT ALL the same as having someone abuse you. And although having people abuse you and take advantage of you is easy to do, it is not what you ultimately want.

I don't know if your therapist is any good or not, but I do hope she is helping you (I hope that's not a downer . . . I didn't mean it that way).

And you are sticking with him despite the feeling like you don't deserve him. Many may not agree, but I think I think that takes courage.



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02 Dec 2010, 11:40 am

TheWeirdPig wrote:
emlion wrote:
I'm not kicking him at all - I rarely snap at him specifically, I did once in a really bad way and i'll never do it again. I learned my lesson, because he just backed off and walked away - but that was still standing up to me, as he reacted and didn't just say 'it's okay.'

Things are much better when he stands up to me - we didn't argue hardly at all.
And 'standing up to me' isn't the same as threatening or anything like that.
It just means putting his view across instead of being a doormat.


Here's what I'm understanding, and correct me if I am wrong. You want a balance from him. You very much want him to be a nice guy, you love that he's a nice guy, and you love that he treats you well. But you don't only want him being nice. If you treat him bad and he is upset, you want him to act appropriately. You DO NOT want him to "understand" you or agree with you for the sole sake of keeping the peace. If you are treating him poorly, YOU DESERVE to have him let you know it. he's not doing you any good otherwise. Am I getting this at all?

Having him be up front with you, honest with you, letting you know when he doesn't agree with you, and being assertive with you is NOT AT ALL the same as having someone abuse you. And although having people abuse you and take advantage of you is easy to do, it is not what you ultimately want.

I don't know if your therapist is any good or not, but I do hope she is helping you (I hope that's not a downer . . . I didn't mean it that way).

And you are sticking with him despite the feeling like you don't deserve him. Many may not agree, but I think I think that takes courage.


Yes to all of it, there needs to be a balance, there used to be one and I hope there will be again soon. -

apart from the courage bit, it's just me being selfish. I love him, I don't want to be without him, simple as that (I think anyway.)



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02 Dec 2010, 11:58 am

emlion wrote:

Things are looking much better in the morning (and it's been snowing again & Stefan made me a mini snowman and put him in the freezer for me when I woke up.) He also left me a note saying 'We can do this. I love you.' on the kitchen table.


bleh, i want to throw up now. you sure bagged an NT there.



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02 Dec 2010, 11:58 am

Mutate wrote:
emlion wrote:

Things are looking much better in the morning (and it's been snowing again & Stefan made me a mini snowman and put him in the freezer for me when I woke up.) He also left me a note saying 'We can do this. I love you.' on the kitchen table.


bleh, i want to throw up now. you sure bagged an NT there.


Sorry...



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02 Dec 2010, 12:14 pm

why are you sorry in your own thread?



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02 Dec 2010, 12:16 pm

Kilroy wrote:
why are you sorry in your own thread?


I don't like if people are unhappy with what I say.



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02 Dec 2010, 12:20 pm

emlion wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
why are you sorry in your own thread?


I don't like if people are unhappy with what I say.


f**k them!
this is your thread and your life
if these people don't "like it" that you have this problem they can go to hell
people here need to learn that if they don't like someone's problem, flaming isn't the right thing to do
everyone just sits back here and accepts it
you have a common problem for people in your shoes
and people here are just angry because they have nothing and you are saying you are thinking of throwing "what they don't have" away
there is no pleasing them



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02 Dec 2010, 12:23 pm

I suppose.
I'm not having a good couple of days, is all.



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02 Dec 2010, 12:25 pm

Mutate wrote:
emlion wrote:

Things are looking much better in the morning (and it's been snowing again & Stefan made me a mini snowman and put him in the freezer for me when I woke up.) He also left me a note saying 'We can do this. I love you.' on the kitchen table.


bleh, i want to throw up now. you sure bagged an NT there.

Screw you! So what if he's an NT? He sounds like one of the rare good ones.


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