You and me babe, how 'bout it?

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25 Aug 2006, 11:20 am

If some random guy came up to me and asked me for sex I probably would kick him in the balls, and I’ll tell you why this would be ok. Women get raped, way more often then men. And some places in the world even consider this acceptable. In the not to distant past it was often thought to be the woman’s fault if this happened.

So if you were of a gender that was often prayed upon sexually, wouldn’t you fight before you were attacked? I mean what if you were in a bar or someplace and a simple, no I don’t want to have sex, didn’t suffice? The guy could follow you out and make you do it, which is why I say, show him that you can fight right off.



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25 Aug 2006, 6:59 pm

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If some random guy came up to me and asked me for sex I probably would kick him in the balls, and I’ll tell you why this would be ok. Women get raped, way more often then men. And some places in the world even consider this acceptable. In the not to distant past it was often thought to be the woman’s fault if this happened.

So if you were of a gender that was often prayed upon sexually, wouldn’t you fight before you were attacked? I mean what if you were in a bar or someplace and a simple, no I don’t want to have sex, didn’t suffice? The guy could follow you out and make you do it, which is why I say, show him that you can fight right off.


That seems a little over the top to me. Oh well, I'll just have to remember not to ever try that strategy on you. :lol:



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25 Aug 2006, 8:19 pm

Oh, and in answer to your question Cherokee, no I would not pre-emptively strike someone, because I know it'd be stupid to stereotype an entire gender on the basis of a few antisocial individuals.



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25 Aug 2006, 10:00 pm

In this hypothetical situation I was not stereotyping the whole male gender, only the ones who come up to women and ask them for sex. And I admit that it might be a little over the top to hit a guy for this, but if in this scenario, the guy asked for sex and I also got a really creepy vibe off of him then I would say it’s okay to hit him.



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25 Aug 2006, 10:37 pm

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It's a stupid idea to just go up to random girls and ask them for casual sex. The odds of a girl agreeing, especially with my looks, are slim to bupkus, or 0.0001%. The other 99.9999% consist of an outright rejection, a slap in the face, or a sexual harrassment charge.

You've tried this?

No, of course not. Why not? See above. And my looks are mediocre at best, so approaching a girl for casual sex is a losing proposition. Unless she's on the "job".



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26 Aug 2006, 6:35 am

Should I wear a cup if I intend on trying this?


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26 Aug 2006, 8:27 am

Don't ever right out ask for sex. And don't expect it on the first date. Even the proverbial "third date rule" doesn't apply that much anymore. I've never done it, but I would not advise anyone to do it.

Also with the prostitution issue, you mentioned Amsterdam and Tel Aviv. But you forgot that it is legal in the state of Nevada.

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26 Aug 2006, 8:41 am

For the records, I wouldn't lose my virginity with someone until I was 100% certain that she was the woman I was truly destined to be with. I am not necessarily saying I will be abstinent until marriage, but I would definitely have to look at the possible signs.

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26 Aug 2006, 8:42 am

For the records, I wouldn't lose my virginity with someone until I was 100% certain that she was the woman I was truly destined to be with. I am not necessarily saying I will be abstinent until marriage, but I would definitely have to look at the possible signs.

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26 Aug 2006, 10:13 am

subatai_baadur wrote:
Should I wear a cup if I intend on trying this?


Most definitely ... and don't give up after the first few thousand attempts ... or so. You will eventually reach that 0.0001% chance and at that point, all your previous practice attempts should help quite a bit.


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27 Aug 2006, 2:19 am

I think the issue for some women is the "implied" disrespect.Women do not desire random casual sex
as often as men and to ask is to imply that you think the female is "that kind of girl".I dont agree with the stereotypes in our society that give merit to males for their "conquests" and damean women as whores if they like sex, but that is the reality of our culture.Asking a women you dont know for sex is sending the message that you see her as a potential whore...not very flatering to most women...As far as hitting a guy for it....I wouldnt.I would be more likely to engage him in conversation if I thought he was an individual who rejected social conventions on principle or was just a lonely awkward person,or a socio-path....if the latter....a kick to the groin might be exceptable but isnt likely to cure the illness.


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27 Aug 2006, 2:53 am

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Asking a women you dont know for sex is sending the message that you see her as a potential whore...


Or it's sending a message of respect... of course nobody would see it that way.



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27 Aug 2006, 3:50 am

krex wrote:
I think the issue for some women is the "implied" disrespect.Women do not desire random casual sex
as often as men and to ask is to imply that you think the female is "that kind of girl".I dont agree with the stereotypes in our society that give merit to males for their "conquests" and damean women as whores if they like sex, but that is the reality of our culture.


The culture, must cultures have been shaped that way over thousands of years by evolution, survival of the fittest. So I would come to the conclusion that such a society no matter how unfair is more fitter then any farer alternative. :nerdy:

I wouldn’t start changing anything for interest of fairness UNLESS you know what you what you are doing SCIENTIFICALLY. But does the NT politicians and feminists know about the laws of nature, nooooo! :jester:



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27 Aug 2006, 9:10 am

Science won't provide answers for society. Chances are that even if there was some sort of 'natural' law (which I don't believe), nobody would follow it. Society has moved on from its biological origins.



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27 Aug 2006, 10:37 am

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Why are women permitted to hit a man for extending such an invitation? At least the guys who are doing this are being upfront and honest. There are some people who keep their partners in relationships for no other reason than to have a reliable source of sex; all the while they are emotionally stringing along their partner. I think that's far worse.

I would say a more appropriate response in this situation for a woman who did not want sex would be to say 'no'. 'No thanks' would be even better, and would show appreciation for his offer. After all, I bet most women wouldn't want a knee in their groin if the roles were reversed.


I appreciate that sentiment. Life would be much easier (and my love life would be quite a bit more colourful) if simply politely asking for sexual intercourse would be an acceptable alternative to the whole flirting/wooing/pick-up lines theatre that I have yet to make sense of in 28 years... Of course, impolite requests could still be met with knees-to-groin action.

I once heard about this guy who simply made obscene gestures involving two fingers and his tongue to girls. Worked for him, apparently. Then again, it's like the usual Discovery show about a crazy Australian who swims around with crocodiles. The fact that he can do it doesn't make it an advisable thing to do.

There used to be this hit single some years ago, a very catchy saxophone tune with the only lyrics being a rather shy-sounding girl starting with "I noticed you around... I think you're very attractive." I used to like the song a lot because it pretty much covers what would be the ideal model of mating rituals to me.

I read a lot of advice about escorts and brothels here. I don't think I personally could ever do that, though. For me at least, sex takes a lot of trust, and I need to know the person involved at least to some extent. If I were confronted with a girl I know nothing about, I would simply freeze up, "deer-in-headlights"-like.