are wp women a bad sample size

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billiscool
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18 Feb 2013, 1:35 am

so I've been saying that aspie women do better than aspie men in dating, mostly based what I read here.
Now there has been many (mostly women who had a tons of boyfriends) who tells me that it's not true.
That many aspie women do struggle in dating, so let say that is true, so a better question is:
are the women here on wp, the ''alpha female'' of asperger. I mean seriously when you have woman
here claiming to been with 75 guys in 2 years, and other female here, talk about all their boyfriends they
have. and read I threw I alot stuff woman say here, many will claim they been with a tons of guys.

are these women on wp common for most aspie women. Do aspie women really date 75 guys.
or had 10 boyfriends. Or are wp women just a small minority of aspie women that does very well
in dating? or are they liars?

does the avg aspie women really date as much as the women on wp claim.

so are you wp ladies just very attractive and very mild, that you could pass as nt anyways.



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18 Feb 2013, 1:37 am

Some do some don't, the real question is why does it matter?



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18 Feb 2013, 1:42 am

No, they don't do better than aspie guys. Some might just have low standards. Guys can do this too. Just go to clubs and find BBW's dancing by themselves. If you really only care about getting as many dates and sexual partners as hot aspie women, have fun with this strategy. It works. But you're not going to feel any better afterwards.



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18 Feb 2013, 1:42 am

MXH wrote:
Some do some don't, the real question is why does it matter?


lol very true. I've never knowingly even met another AS diagnosed person in real life.



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18 Feb 2013, 2:02 am

Asking a few questions on a forum hardly constitutes an in-depth scientific evaluation of the subject. So yes, I'd say that the "sample size" may or may not be representative of the general populous ;). But in the end, some women, and some men, will have had tons of partners, and others will have had none. It's just the way the cookie crumbles!



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18 Feb 2013, 2:07 am

[quote="Tyri0n"

I doubt 75 dates in 2 years. Even if this is true, it means they have trouble getting into a relationship. And those must be the very hot ones. The majority of people with Asperger's are not hot. A high proportion of autistic females are asexual or hyposexual, or have "sensory issues" that interfere with good sex. There's no better way to turn off NT men than having these characteristics.

The aspie women with lots of dates probably lower their standards, or are just after sex. You could do this too.

As a guy, if you target the BBW or women with preexisting children, it's likely you could have as many sexual partners as you wanted. Similarly, aspie women could have as many sexual partners as they wanted if they were willing to date creepos and perverts. But BBW's and women with preexisting children are not attractive to you, most likely, just as creeps aren't attractive to them. So both genders end up in the same position, really, and partially by choice.

My Army buddies taught me that the best way to get laid 100% guaranteed is to just show up at a club and find a BBW dancing by herself. That's usually what they're there for. lol. They might be more willing to take a "dominant role" in the relationship, too. So you should consider it, if you can bear to. lmao. Or create a POF account, and your inbox will likely be full of BBW messages in about...a day?

If you want 76 dates, you must develop very low standards.[/quote]
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well, why can't I find these aspie women who have low standards. where are they at. I need to find one of these high partner wp ladies and hook up with them.

and women here are always complaining about creepy guys, so are saying that aspie women are actual dating these creepy men, they so complain about.



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18 Feb 2013, 2:11 am

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and women here are always complaining about creepy guys, so are saying that aspie women are actual dating these creepy men, they so complain about.


The ones who report high numbers of dates quite possibly are. The majority on here seem to report that they "only" get hit on by creep guys and, therefore, don't date. This is the equivalent of you dating BBW's. Maybe you can ONLY date BBW's. This would put you in exactly the same position. It's just that, in their case, the creepy guys taking initiative has created actual opportunities while, in your case, your failure to pursue parallel opportunities among the female population means you just have an equivalent number of potential (but not actual) opportunities. But you are, in effect, in the same position as the aspie girls who claim they don't date because they only get hit on by creepos when comparing their actual opportunities to your potential opportunities.

I'm sure some of these aspie women with low standards would go out with you (at least so long as they didn't read your sexist posts here); it's just identifying them that's a challenge. Girls are good at masking autistic traits.

consider also: many aspie women seem to be demisexual (not sure the actual percentage but I've seen it claimed a lot on here). If you don't care about appearance, your pool of potential partners drastically expands. Just put yourself in that position where you would date virtually ANYONE who is nice to you. And consider that, in NT culture, someone who is aware that they are "beneath" you is likely to be nicer to you. This alone may explain a lot.



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18 Feb 2013, 2:25 am

What is a BBW?

Also, FYI, if you interact with women as people as opposed to things (which is what I'm seeing in this thread) you'll have much better luck. Say hello. Introduce yourself. Have an actual conversation without zeroing in on her chest the whole time. Seriously, patience is a virtue. Talk to her like she's a person. You might not get into her pants right away, but she'll be impressed.



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18 Feb 2013, 2:34 am

cozysweater wrote:
What is a BBW?

Also, FYI, if you interact with women as people as opposed to things (which is what I'm seeing in this thread) you'll have much better luck. Say hello. Introduce yourself. Have an actual conversation without zeroing in on her chest the whole time. Seriously, patience is a virtue. Talk to her like she's a person. You might not get into her pants right away, but she'll be impressed.


big beautiful women. I do talk to women like they are person, all the time. (trust me I don't talk about relationship status with women, what I talk about here, I don't talk to women about) I got no trouble talking to any women. they just never want to date me.

talking to women is easy, getting a women to date me, well that whole another ball game.



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18 Feb 2013, 3:00 am

I don't know other people well but I know myself.. You remind me of something I did. My last ex girlfriend and I met each other, decided we liked each other, assumed the label of boyfriend and girlfriend, then I found out she had 2 other guys she was doing damn near the same exact stuff with without any of us knowing and she dumped me because when I came over to her house for the first time I wanted to make a good impression with her family (which I did, her dad is an aspie) which I thought was the thing to do. I even asked her parent's permission and told them how we met etc. But I guess she just wanted me over to have sex with her and that's fine but she wanted me to do it in her parent's room which I was not ok with so she dumped me over text.

I wasn't bothered until I learned that she had 2 other guys that she was doing this to and I made the mistake of generalizing all women between 18 and my age at the time (20) as sex crazed whores. Because one girl did this to me and I was shocked by it and wanted to make an impact in conversation about it. I generalized and it only made me sound stupid. I've learned that women of any age vary in maturity and that I shouldn't do that. I made a mistake.

I believe this topic is you being upset because you read maybe 1 girl's post about her life which could've even been exaggerated for all you know. You got upset, decided you wanted to discuss it to either try to bring attention to it in an attempt to make yourself feel better hoping that other people share your disgust or you're just really self concious that you're not one of these guys that these specific women do that with. Get over yourself, move on, it didn't affect you in any way, and there is no point to this topic. Generalizing to attempt to increase a topic's intensity or whatever is just pathetic, you might aswell be one of those people who when wrong make up rediculous statistics to try and prove a point they strongly believe.



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18 Feb 2013, 3:11 am

billiscool wrote:

big beautiful women. I do talk to women like they are person, all the time. (trust me I don't talk about relationship status with women, what I talk about here, I don't talk to women about) I got no trouble talking to any women. they just never want to date me.

talking to women is easy, getting a women to date me, well that whole another ball game.


Where are you meeting these women? Where you meet someone can have an impact on how they interpret your advances. At a bar or on the street I'm very VERY unlikely to take any guy seriously or give him any kind of chance. Bars are meat markets and on the street... what, do they think I'm some kinda ho?! :)



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18 Feb 2013, 3:15 am

I've never seen a woman here claim to have 75 partners in 2 years so I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. And I don't think the women here have had as much success with dating as you seem to selectively perceive; you're only using the anecdotes of girls on the extreme end of the bell curve to form your opinion. If such girl with that much success exists here they're a statistical anomaly and not representative of the average aspie female.

I think WP women are a good sample size, it's just that nobody has done an analysis of our relationship status and how many partner's we've had, WP women specifically have never used as a sample. At the moment saying that aspie women are more successful at dating and have had lots of partners can't be said with 100% surety (all the articles out there with %'s in them are conflicting IMO, one says guys have more success and the next says girls do and so forth and so forth). Y'know, we're right here. Why don't you start a new thread and collect data instead of making assumptions? I'll start one for the men and we can compare. We'll get someone unbiased and objective to do the math.

I'm not arguing here that women on average don't have more success, just that it's not as much success as you make it out to be, and I'd be interested in finding out the stats for myself. I don't care who's favour they end up in.

First numbers for the pool; 3 boyfriends in 10 years, haven't had sex in 6.



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18 Feb 2013, 3:32 am

blue_bean wrote:
I've never seen a woman here claim to have 75 partners in 2 years so I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.

I can't imagine many women anywhere would want to admit to those numbers - even if she had twice as many!! 8O

And no, I wouldn't respect the man who did.

Edit: that is sex partners, right? Kjas mentioned "first dates"... very big difference, as those first dates don't usually involve body fluids. ;)



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18 Feb 2013, 3:42 am

BlueMax wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
I've never seen a woman here claim to have 75 partners in 2 years so I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.

I can't imagine many women anywhere would want to admit to those numbers - even if she had twice as many!! 8O

And no, I wouldn't respect the man who did.


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The majority of those complaining here have not made any serious effort.

For all the crap that some guys on here keep spewing - they conveniently forget that I had to go on over 75+ first dates in order to get anywhere in my dating life (which resulted in 2 boyfriends - now actually consider that ratio) - otherwise I wouldn;t have any dating experience. (loooooooong story, don't ask - it's not what you think)
I don't see them getting serious and making an effort to do that kind of thing - they seem to think that going on 6 dates or asking out 12 women is enough, and they expect to have a girlfriend - it doesn't happen like that.

Women have to make an effort too you know.


even if she only find 2 ''good men'' from that crowd. dating 75 men in 2 years or first date is pretty hard to believe. that 3 men per month.
or a new date every 1.3 weeks. I don't think even nt party girls even date that much men in 2 yrs. is she telling the truth, do the avg aspie women really have this many dates in 2 years.



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18 Feb 2013, 3:50 am

billiscool wrote:

Kjas wrote:

The majority of those complaining here have not made any serious effort.

For all the crap that some guys on here keep spewing - they conveniently forget that I had to go on over 75+ first dates in order to get anywhere in my dating life (which resulted in 2 boyfriends - now actually consider that ratio) - otherwise I wouldn;t have any dating experience. (loooooooong story, don't ask - it's not what you think)
I don't see them getting serious and making an effort to do that kind of thing - they seem to think that going on 6 dates or asking out 12 women is enough, and they expect to have a girlfriend - it doesn't happen like that.

Women have to make an effort too you know.


75 dates in 2 yrs, is this common for aspie women or is kjas just very good at dating?


Heh! If we're talking internet dates (like Match.com or something) I TOTALLY believe that it would take that to find 2 actual boyfriends. But 75 dates doesn't mean 75 sexual partners at all and I don't think that was indicated in the post at all.
I've had lots of dates from online sites but only a couple of them panned out to anything where I would even consider sleeping with the person.

Date does not equal Sex.

(guess who just found the Bold button :roll:



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18 Feb 2013, 3:56 am

cozysweater wrote:
billiscool wrote:

Kjas wrote:

The majority of those complaining here have not made any serious effort.

For all the crap that some guys on here keep spewing - they conveniently forget that I had to go on over 75+ first dates in order to get anywhere in my dating life (which resulted in 2 boyfriends - now actually consider that ratio) - otherwise I wouldn;t have any dating experience. (loooooooong story, don't ask - it's not what you think)
I don't see them getting serious and making an effort to do that kind of thing - they seem to think that going on 6 dates or asking out 12 women is enough, and they expect to have a girlfriend - it doesn't happen like that.

Women have to make an effort too you know.


75 dates in 2 yrs, is this common for aspie women or is kjas just very good at dating?


Heh! If we're talking internet dates (like Match.com or something) I TOTALLY believe that it would take that to find 2 actual boyfriends. But 75 dates doesn't mean 75 sexual partners at all and I don't think that was indicated in the post at all.
I've had lots of dates from online sites but only a couple of them panned out to anything where I would even consider sleeping with the person.

Date does not equal Sex.

(guess who just found the Bold button :roll:


unless you actual met the person online and actual date them more than once. Then it does not count.
if you only talk to a guy on online and never met him, then that does count as a date.

having a ''chat room'' boyfriend, is not a boyfriend or does not count as a date.