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07 Aug 2013, 8:46 am

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Not claiming anyone here is at all, but Asexuality or at least claims of being Asexual is often a component of a certain type of Narcissistic Personalty. It's used for control and a weird way of punishment towards the opposite sex. The Narcissist isn't asexual at all.


So what? You could say the a drive shaft is an component of a of a mini cooper, but it is also a component of many automobiles.

It is a fallacy by association.

You haven't provided evidence to back up your claim.


Go look up Narcissistic Personality Disorder and delve into the Cerebral Narcissist. It is a behavior that they do. In fact I was friends with a guy that has NPD and he does it as well. He's a complete mysogynist, does everything possible to attract women, but always re-buffs them and claims he's asexual when he's not. It proves his superiority and control over them as he toys with their emotions quite sadistically, as well as superiority over other men that are in complete subjugation under the power of the magical vajayjay.


Even if corroborated (which is you responsibility BTW), it has little relation to this discussion

Asexuals on the whole do not solicit a relationship then rebuff it. They wouldn't be interested in a sexual relationship in the first place.

You are giving an impression that there would be a lot of these cases. These sort of personality disorder are actually quite rare.

There are also other possible explanations for this behavior, such as being scared of actually going through with it.

Even if it is the case, it is fairly benign form of narcissism, as the others don't care, and the victim will get over it because they will have a reason.

A clever narcissist will keep the person hanging, and dependent.



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07 Aug 2013, 8:50 am

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I'm also aware that there really are people that are asexual. They just don't have sexual feelings, and are not interested in sex at all.


I think the point is there are other shades of grey besides the obvious, like people who can think about sex, but have no actual desire to carry it out.

Most of these behaviors concern the self, so it is self centered, but no more self center than wanting the opposite.



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07 Aug 2013, 9:02 am

I honestly don't see why you are being so defensive, and trying your best to minimize what I'm saying. Really, get over it. I made a little comment, and your need to get at me on this topic is what's really de-railing this topic. If you really wanted things to stay on topic you could have just let the comment pass. You also have no proof of your minimizing either, as how many Narcissists are really going to be found by the system? They aren't the type to be crying in the psychologists office, or submit to studies.

Not to mention minimizing people's emotional pain from dealing with them? Seriously? That's insensitive as hell. I guess we really shouldn't care about sociopaths and bullying in the workplace or any kind of emotional distress that people with AS suffer from then too. It's all minimal anyways right?

I already stated I understand that there are asexual people, and also understand what has been mentioned more to do with fear over sex and sexual relationships.



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07 Aug 2013, 9:45 am

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I sort of identify as asexual because I don't enjoy sex and don't want to ever have it again.

Then you may also not be asexual.

Unlike what many people think, asexuality is not only "not wanting to have sex".

A person could be sexual and still have low libido levels and not wanting to have sex.

Asexuality is the complete lack of sexual attraction and sexual fantasies.
If a person has fantasies but doesn't want to have sex, they're very probably not asexual.

My mother thinks I am asexual.
I don't know if I am or not, but I do know that I don't have sexual fantasies and am not into yaoi/yuri/hentai.
Once I read a yaoi because I was advised to try to read one and I felt nothing at all, and I don't understand why girls and women like yaoi so much and what they feel when they read them.
To me I'm just looking at a drawing. What the heck should I feel?



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08 Aug 2013, 1:48 pm

Asexuality isn't defined by it's lack of "romantic" attaraction (romantic and sexual attraction are often seperated in the asexual community since it's apparently possible to experience one without the other). It wouldn't make sense to assume asexuality due to a lack of experience with partners or girl/boyfriends. Asexuality is defined by it's lack of sexual attraction, sooo...

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asexuals are not sexually attracted to anybody which means they wouldn't want to have sex with anyone

This actually, is only half true. The whole "they don't want sex" thing is a misunderstanding of the defintion. It's entirely possible to lack sexual attraction and to desire sex at the same time... keeping in mind that a desire for sex could be for any reason, perhaps they want to please their partner (very common case)? That's a desire for sex right there

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I wonder if there is such a thing as LGBT asexual?

There is, though the relationship between the asexual community and the LGBT is usually difficult (it's sort of sad, but the LGBT community can be judgemental... though it's probably something to do with the mass amount of asexuals who storm in there and declare how gross sex and sexual acts are). You'll find that there are asexuals who will avoid any association with the LGBT at all costs too though I'm not sure why, the reasoning usually differs

AVEN (Asexual Visibility & Education Network) is explicitly simple with its defintion, "An asexual person is a person who
does not experience sexual attraction". It's usually interpreted differently, but I think that was the original intention... this defintion was (I think??) written some it could be more flexible. Sexual repulsion, social anxiety, antisexualism and even Asperger's are commonly found in the asexual community, though there's no direct connection between either of those or asexuality



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08 Aug 2013, 6:32 pm

I would find any woman that says "magical power of the vajayjay" not my type. Geese it isn't like all jockish abusive jerks go around saying look how powerful my dick is or anything. I freaking hate it when people brag about being easy to get. It so absurd and annoying. Are you really domineering or are you just easy to get? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???


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08 Aug 2013, 6:35 pm

All the people you've goaded into bed with you begin to chuckle in a deep laughter all around you.........mwahahahahahaaaah!


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08 Aug 2013, 7:54 pm

I consider myself asexual (Technically, a teenager can not be asexual, but age of consent here is 13).

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"Sex as a recreational activity seems kind of pointless."

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"[...] sex is more a functional activity than it is an emotional one."


Asexual people does not have sex for pleasure, but a few have sex to make babies.



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09 Aug 2013, 3:23 am

Stalk wrote:
I wonder if there is such a thing as LGBT asexual?


There sure is! Again, asexual doesn't necessarily means aromantic so you can be a gay-asexual and prefer romantic relationships with the same gender.



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09 Aug 2013, 4:14 am

appletheclown wrote:
I would find any woman that says "magical power of the vajayjay" not my type. Geese it isn't like all jockish abusive jerks go around saying look how powerful my dick is or anything. I freaking hate it when people brag about being easy to get. It so absurd and annoying. Are you really domineering or are you just easy to get? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???


I love penis, sorry :oops:



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09 Aug 2013, 9:20 am

Jasper1 wrote:
Not claiming anyone here is at all, but Asexuality or at least claims of being Asexual is often a component of a certain type of Narcissistic Personalty. It's used for control and a weird way of punishment towards the opposite sex. The Narcissist isn't asexual at all.

Yup, I've known a lot of those sadly enough.

It's trendy.