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10 Feb 2014, 1:09 am

slw1990 i hope i didn't upset you :S


yeah i hate being aspie, i want to be normal, its fun that most normal people want to be wierd but i think its only cause they dont understand what its like. i come off as normal, so most people don't notice, alot think i'm a great person, some think i'm a as*hole. due to misunderstandings.

theres really no point in me getting a job, it'll ony put me in -200 dollars a month due to debt, so the only reason it seems to do it is so i can say i have one for girls aside from the first 3 months of working before the debt people catch on and i have to quit

starting to have a hatred for women, i've not meet many good ones. the one i got the closest to lied and hurt me, the one i loved also lied and hurt, me more then enough reason not to trust them but i keep doing it and they hurt me more, some its a game :(

going try to not give my phone number to any of them anymore either, it scares me that they going come hurt me or something. not that i'd be bad i guess.


i tried contacting a aspie who posted on a dating site, but that went terrible :( i'll have 2-3 women all reject me in the same day,

i wish i could be one of those people who meets someone on here but wouldn't matter cause i seem to be the only person from my state on here and haven't seen any women from here for sure.

i just want it to all be over, i get that i'm useless monster if i'd only been alive in the 30s -50s i bet i'd had a great life or atlest died in ww2



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10 Feb 2014, 3:06 am

Many women may prefer someone experienced, but it's not universal. There are women out there who are ok with inexperience. It is harder to find them, but don't give up.


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never had a gf,
never had sex-kinda fixed that
doesn't have a high paying job
doesn't have a great car
doesn't live in his own house(i guess cause they want to mooch of men)
not skiny
not great looking

so every woman will dislike me for one or more of those, there isn't any that will look past all of them.


Yes there is! You know how I know? Because of all the ordinary looking, poor, non-skinny guys with normal jobs and normal cars I know who are in relationships.
I'll bet you'll even be able to find someone willing to look past the snide little digs about women wanting to mooch off men.

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i can't aford a gym


If it bothers you (and you should only change your body if YOU have a problem with it), then go for a walk. Go swimming. People managed to stay fit before gyms were invented.

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most women stop looking at guys past 28


I'm 30 and still looking at guys. I know women who are in their 40s and still looking for the right guy.


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theres really no point in me getting a job, it'll ony put me in -200 dollars a month due to debt


Do you have an infinite amount of debt? How long will it take to get paid off?
I think it's better to suffer for a little while for the sake of something that's important than you rather than just stagnating in a situation that you're miserable in.


I'm sure you're not unlovable. You've mentioned dating sites a lot; I've heard that the women there, as a whole, tend to be more picky than IRL.


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10 Feb 2014, 5:13 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Many women may prefer someone experienced, but it's not universal. There are women out there who are ok with inexperience. It is harder to find them, but don't give up.


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never had a gf,
never had sex-kinda fixed that
doesn't have a high paying job
doesn't have a great car
doesn't live in his own house(i guess cause they want to mooch of men)
not skiny
not great looking

so every woman will dislike me for one or more of those, there isn't any that will look past all of them.


Yes there is! You know how I know? Because of all the ordinary looking, poor, non-skinny guys with normal jobs and normal cars I know who are in relationships.
I'll bet you'll even be able to find someone willing to look past the snide little digs about women wanting to mooch off men.

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i can't aford a gym


If it bothers you (and you should only change your body if YOU have a problem with it), then go for a walk. Go swimming. People managed to stay fit before gyms were invented.

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most women stop looking at guys past 28


I'm 30 and still looking at guys. I know women who are in their 40s and still looking for the right guy.


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theres really no point in me getting a job, it'll ony put me in -200 dollars a month due to debt


Do you have an infinite amount of debt? How long will it take to get paid off?
I think it's better to suffer for a little while for the sake of something that's important than you rather than just stagnating in a situation that you're miserable in.


I'm sure you're not unlovable. You've mentioned dating sites a lot; I've heard that the women there, as a whole, tend to be more picky than IRL.


i go back in forth on calling what i have a job as its only 2 weeks every 3 weeks and only 4 hours a day, but tech it is a job, but women woudnt' consider it one, unless its their job,

snide little digs??
there are some women that want to mooch, as in be house wifes, idu why they'd want to give up freedom that works brings, but its what they want to just be dependent, so i totally gt why those reject me. i'll never be the primary money maker.

i liked when i was 240-250 but been too depressed to keep to my diet or do crunches. and when not that i play games to keep happy for a few hours or atleast distracted and spend 3-5 hours on this forums.

problem is i lost my friend si use to walk with, and now i get too much anxiety about going outside, so i don't do it except for work or groceries, if i was richer i'd get a good treadmill, i'd love to have one just walk on it for hours.

at the rate they keep adding interest it minus well be infinite , started out as like 4 k now its above 10 k and then theres the school debt,

making -200 a month means that i woulodn't be able to go to work anymore, so really it wouldn't be -200 it'd just be no food or gas, or water, as debt collectors take thiers before i get it, and even paying them off the interest far out ways it so it'd keep getting higher or if decrease it'd be a a low amount my only hope is bankruptcy which i don't know how to do and also cost money to file. so i make more money by not working and living off welfare then i could if i got a job, i mean atleast i live where with a job i'd be looking at 20+ years of starving to death and never sleeping due to having to walk 10 hours to work.
thinking about it makes me depressed and anxiious to the point i shake or feel like vomiting. like being trapped in a well with no way out.

debt being another reason women won't want me when/if i die they probably just keep stacking interest mean why the gov wipes out the big banks debts and lets them carry on, and now highschool students in my area might get to go to the same college for free.

as for the credit card debt, well giving a poor aspie 18 year old who's never had money credit cards was a bad ideal, then tricking me in order to be able to charge fees and start stacking interests was dumb its funny cause the banks that got bailed out had to because they did alot of giving cards to people who couldn't afford it. only thing good from it is i alot better at money now, and due to being on ssi, they never get the money back no matter how much they stack the interests

i don't get how "hmm he can't pay us teh 1k he owes, hmm make it 5k then he'll pay us" cause increasing debt on somene who can't pay it some how makes them able to pay it, one time they called in the middle of the month askiing for it all , like i so rich i had 5k in my poket, or the time they wanted me to scam the federal govement to pay some of it,



pretty sure i am i've had my friends tell me

and yeah but so are teh one on CL and to be fair they are rl women so probably just as picky if you bumped into them in person, but i won't ever meet anyone sitting in my room, so dating sites is my only hope,though as i said they drying up.

don't suppose you'd like to be my gf :P

:(


miss using my voice and talking to people. though half the time i too afriad to now adays. feel its bad to talk.



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10 Feb 2014, 5:15 am

i'd gone from size 48 to size 42 which is normal size pants, miss that.



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10 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm

It's okay, I think a lot of aspie get misunderstood because I do too.



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10 Feb 2014, 10:38 pm

From what I remember, health experts recommend that the ideal body weight percentage of fat for men is 15%. 20% is the max for healthy individuals. I recommend measuring it and getting it to this level if not already there. It is also a matter of health as well as looks.

I can't believe I am giving advice on this, but you might ask your women friends for suggestions. Then try to change if they make a helpful suggestion.
I wish you success.

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You seem like a kind hearted person who wants love. If someone rejects you romantically there is nothing wrong that. You are a good man and should be proud of that and respect yourself no matter what others think. We are much more than just how good we are at mating, which has nothing to do with morality.

Why would it be unhealthy for you to lose weight?

There is no deadline for dating. That is just a myth.

Do not let others pass judgment on you. You are the judge! You are a good man and not everyone can say that. You should respect yourself. Even if you did not succeed in matters of love (like many others) that is not the end of the world. In fact I would recommend being less emotional about this. We should try to make our emotions dependent on things we control not things beyond our control like what others think. As long we are morally good we should be proud. *hug*


i'm big boned, you can fill my bones thru my chest and upper tummy, so losing too much would have me looking like i'm starving so i can lose 25 pounds maybe 35 but definely wouldn't go below 240 i was happy at 250

based on couples and statistics most women stop looking at guys past 28, ans start accepting they be alone, atleast thats what my friend told me, the only exceptions i've heard all people finding eacher in thier 40s and f 50s but one must take into account they are a different generation with different morals and values, my generalization is very very materialistic. i've had 19 year olds call me old at 24, and by 28 i'll be a 28 year old who never had a girlfriend which for women means theres a reason why 500+ women have rejected me. which i suppose there is :( i think if i win the lotery i'll just hire a girl from over seas to come and cuddle with me, at that point women here would only want me for the money.

i am one of those unfortunate people who require human contact, i'll never be happy without a gf/wife which isn't the same as saying i need them for happiness, just to complete it , i have hobbies and such but they so pointless without love, just one half of the circle :(

i was too shy and afraid of women in high school, probably cause i grew up with them picking on me all the time or making fun of me, i had crushes through out high school, one of my teachers even tried to fix me up but the lady said no :(

also idk about otheres areas, but here 90% of the women on dating sites are pretty gorgeous and skinny, though i haven't seen too many fat women here , i guess there isn't many



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10 Feb 2014, 11:22 pm

hyena wrote:
From what I remember, health experts recommend that the ideal body weight percentage of fat for men is 15%. 20% is the max for healthy individuals. I recommend measuring it and getting it to this level if not already there. It is also a matter of health as well as looks.

I can't believe I am giving advice on this, but you might ask your women friends for suggestions. Then try to change if they make a helpful suggestion.
I wish you success.

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hyena wrote:
You seem like a kind hearted person who wants love. If someone rejects you romantically there is nothing wrong that. You are a good man and should be proud of that and respect yourself no matter what others think. We are much more than just how good we are at mating, which has nothing to do with morality.

Why would it be unhealthy for you to lose weight?

There is no deadline for dating. That is just a myth.

Do not let others pass judgment on you. You are the judge! You are a good man and not everyone can say that. You should respect yourself. Even if you did not succeed in matters of love (like many others) that is not the end of the world. In fact I would recommend being less emotional about this. We should try to make our emotions dependent on things we control not things beyond our control like what others think. As long we are morally good we should be proud. *hug*


i'm big boned, you can fill my bones thru my chest and upper tummy, so losing too much would have me looking like i'm starving so i can lose 25 pounds maybe 35 but definely wouldn't go below 240 i was happy at 250

based on couples and statistics most women stop looking at guys past 28, ans start accepting they be alone, atleast thats what my friend told me, the only exceptions i've heard all people finding eacher in thier 40s and f 50s but one must take into account they are a different generation with different morals and values, my generalization is very very materialistic. i've had 19 year olds call me old at 24, and by 28 i'll be a 28 year old who never had a girlfriend which for women means theres a reason why 500+ women have rejected me. which i suppose there is :( i think if i win the lotery i'll just hire a girl from over seas to come and cuddle with me, at that point women here would only want me for the money.

i am one of those unfortunate people who require human contact, i'll never be happy without a gf/wife which isn't the same as saying i need them for happiness, just to complete it , i have hobbies and such but they so pointless without love, just one half of the circle :(

i was too shy and afraid of women in high school, probably cause i grew up with them picking on me all the time or making fun of me, i had crushes through out high school, one of my teachers even tried to fix me up but the lady said no :(

also idk about otheres areas, but here 90% of the women on dating sites are pretty gorgeous and skinny, though i haven't seen too many fat women here , i guess there isn't many


idk what mine is, but the recruiters and my doctor seemed to agree that the ideal wieght of my hieght acording to the gov is 211 and they both said that given my body shape that wouldn't be possible or healthy. i suppose if i wast as tall i'd be supper round lol, so at-least there's that.

lol yeah now all they say is your great, or you perfect how you are etc, and if that was so then the one wouldn't have eneded our potential relationship. though with her i coudlnt provide for her so thats part of it

if i was able to walk more or be less depressed, i'd be back where i was size wise, but all i do is lay around depressed, so i also eat more or less, both which are bad, eating less causes my body to want to stock up then i eat alot and it just stores most of tat,

also most my food isn't the healthist but it isn't the worse, i use to do 4-400 cal meals a day. but no point in it.



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11 Feb 2014, 12:00 am

Dude, I have to be brutally honest with you. You've got a lot of stuff to work on before you can even think about starting a relationship. For instance, that credit card thing can easily become a massive problem. I would try to get in touch with any kind of financial management resource that specializes in people with special needs. Credit card companies have 0 hang-ups about exploiting anyone. You've got to move on that as fast as possible.

Your credit score is also probably not great at this point, and that effects pretty much every significant transaction you'll ever make. Also, many employers will refuse to hire anyone with a bad credit score (which is incredibly stupid, but what can you do?).

Just for future reference, avoid any credit card use, and any "Payday Loan" or cash-advance businesses. They're all designed to exploit their customers as much as possible. There are no for-profit enterprises that legitimately want to help you get out of debt. They just want you to be indebted to THEM.



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Dude, I have to be brutally honest with you. You've got a lot of stuff to work on before you can even think about starting a relationship. For instance, that credit card thing can easily become a massive problem. I would try to get in touch with any kind of financial management resource that specializes in people with special needs. Credit card companies have 0 hang-ups about exploiting anyone. You've got to move on that as fast as possible.

Your credit score is also probably not great at this point, and that effects pretty much every significant transaction you'll ever make. Also, many employers will refuse to hire anyone with a bad credit score (which is incredibly stupid, but what can you do?).

Just for future reference, avoid any credit card use, and any "Payday Loan" or cash-advance businesses. They're all designed to exploit their customers as much as possible. There are no for-profit enterprises that legitimately want to help you get out of debt. They just want you to be indebted to THEM.


i can't work on them i only hope i can find someone who is as accepting as i am
its my debt not theirs, both companies already won the court cases, i went to the free law advice place and she said i shouldn't worry about it until i find full time work. as for my credit score its long long dead, and will never be good again. nd your right about the employers its part of why i won't ever find work. every big or small company does those checks for employment.

i only use the one for electronic purchases and pay it off that month.

so i'm stuck as is i still think i deserve to be loved. but killing myself seems to be the logical solution and path i should take, but as of yet i can't do it. pahaps in a few years.



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11 Feb 2014, 1:04 am

I think you should ask your doctor for specifics on why you should not follow the general ratio.

If the women say only good things ask them to enter a relationship with you or retract their claim. If they retract it demand honesty.

Maybe you should try being more firm. Do not let some failures in romantic matters affect how you think of yourself too much. My confidence is extremely high and people seem to find it attractive. Do not give others, especially strangers, the power to affect how much your respect and love yourself.

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idk what mine is, but the recruiters and my doctor seemed to agree that the ideal wieght of my hieght acording to the gov is 211 and they both said that given my body shape that wouldn't be possible or healthy. i suppose if i wast as tall i'd be supper round lol, so at-least there's that.

lol yeah now all they say is your great, or you perfect how you are etc, and if that was so then the one wouldn't have eneded our potential relationship. though with her i coudlnt provide for her so thats part of it

if i was able to walk more or be less depressed, i'd be back where i was size wise, but all i do is lay around depressed, so i also eat more or less, both which are bad, eating less causes my body to want to stock up then i eat alot and it just stores most of tat,

also most my food isn't the healthist but it isn't the worse, i use to do 4-400 cal meals a day. but no point in it.



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11 Feb 2014, 1:11 am

The main problem I see with you is that you talk about women as though they are all shallow, golddigging idiots. If that's what you think then why on earth would anyone want to go out with you?

The rest of the stuff is fixable, although you seem to not want to fix any of it.


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11 Feb 2014, 1:27 am

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The main problem I see with you is that you talk about women as though they are all shallow, golddigging idiots. If that's what you think then why on earth would anyone want to go out with you?

The rest of the stuff is fixable, although you seem to not want to fix any of it.


i don't believe they all are and hope i'm right, but spend few minutes on okc in my area or cl and you'll find most are idk about shallow, but they all want a great perfect man who has money.

as for the girl i tried to be with she tends to fall for the guys who can provide for here, and like i said i've been told by a few women thats precicely what they want a guy who will provide everything for them.

i find it funny how i and other guys post about what we want in a woman's personality, but the women on there post about what they want in a guy's looks and things he processes.

i don't want things that a woman has , i just want emotional connection and love

maybe in my area its just majorty of the women are of that type, but i don't have any other way of looking for love.

ive read on here of others saying that they only find ugly people in thier area on okc, but in my area its filled with gorgeous, athletic types, perhaps cause its net to a big university city will richer people from all over the world attend.

Edit: i would like to add i was raised by all women, so i guess i thought most women would be like them,. they kind and caring and don't care about jobs, money, or possessions, my grandpa who i never met, probably had asergers and met such a lady and had a family, but at last those were better times.



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11 Feb 2014, 1:36 am

OP I think a lot of us are in the same boat as you. A boat full of holes, yet since it's made of wood, it still floats, just barely.

One way to minimize debt is to ditch the car and find a homeless shelter or something similar within walking distance to food and work.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, you can find love in line at the food bank. Bring headphones or ear plugs if the people upset you.
I saw on the news recently that most relationships originate at work. One bonus of having a restaurant job is that you can meet lots of ladies.
If someone takes a lot of extra effort, or they seem to be difficult, just assume they aren't a good friend and move on to someone else.

It's true, actually more than half of the young people in USA are gold digging and shallow according to countless social science studies. (that I won't give links to because I want to seem like I'm making baseless claims. /sarcasm) Maybe they'll grow out of it.
The demographics say that most of them pool in towns with lots of liberals and social activism. That's a weird correlation, no?

Remember, ladies, huge generalizations don't necessarily include you, but they aren't necessarily false either, so it's best not to get upset about them. And guys make them because they're frustrated and need to vent. No reason to get all indignant.

I was raised by all women, too, but they were anything but kind...


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hyena wrote:
I think you should ask your doctor for specifics on why you should not follow the general ratio.

If the women say only good things ask them to enter a relationship with you or retract their claim. If they retract it demand honesty.

Maybe you should try being more firm. Do not let some failures in romantic matters affect how you think of yourself too much. My confidence is extremely high and people seem to find it attractive. Do not give others, especially strangers, the power to affect how much your respect and love yourself.

sly279 wrote:
idk what mine is, but the recruiters and my doctor seemed to agree that the ideal wieght of my hieght acording to the gov is 211 and they both said that given my body shape that wouldn't be possible or healthy. i suppose if i wast as tall i'd be supper round lol, so at-least there's that.

lol yeah now all they say is your great, or you perfect how you are etc, and if that was so then the one wouldn't have eneded our potential relationship. though with her i coudlnt provide for her so thats part of it

if i was able to walk more or be less depressed, i'd be back where i was size wise, but all i do is lay around depressed, so i also eat more or less, both which are bad, eating less causes my body to want to stock up then i eat alot and it just stores most of tat,

also most my food isn't the healthist but it isn't the worse, i use to do 4-400 cal meals a day. but no point in it.


i actually met them from okc trying to date them :( instead i only got friends, who i now hear about their relationships from, both gave similar lies, that they need to restrain from guys/relationships for while for thier mental health(for one) and to get their stuff in order(for the other) but both found guys, the one did it few days later she admits shes a composvie liar and has purposely said stuff to hurt me

so i'm the perfect bf just not for them, but there's someone whos going enjoy you. blah blah blah

its quite puzzling to me, when i go on dates, i come accross as confident, same when i'm in love with a girl.

only people who know of my worrying and such , are people on here and close friends/family.

its hard to feel good about one self when hundreds of women reject you :(



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11 Feb 2014, 2:05 am

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Dude, I have to be brutally honest with you. You've got a lot of stuff to work on before you can even think about starting a relationship. For instance, that credit card thing can easily become a massive problem. I would try to get in touch with any kind of financial management resource that specializes in people with special needs. Credit card companies have 0 hang-ups about exploiting anyone. You've got to move on that as fast as possible.

Your credit score is also probably not great at this point, and that effects pretty much every significant transaction you'll ever make. Also, many employers will refuse to hire anyone with a bad credit score (which is incredibly stupid, but what can you do?).

Just for future reference, avoid any credit card use, and any "Payday Loan" or cash-advance businesses. They're all designed to exploit their customers as much as possible. There are no for-profit enterprises that legitimately want to help you get out of debt. They just want you to be indebted to THEM.


i can't work on them i only hope i can find someone who is as accepting as i am
its my debt not theirs, both companies already won the court cases, i went to the free law advice place and she said i shouldn't worry about it until i find full time work. as for my credit score its long long dead, and will never be good again. nd your right about the employers its part of why i won't ever find work. every big or small company does those checks for employment.

i only use the one for electronic purchases and pay it off that month.

so i'm stuck as is i still think i deserve to be loved. but killing myself seems to be the logical solution and path i should take, but as of yet i can't do it. pahaps in a few years.


Wait, you got sued? How much debt are we talking about here?

No, you don't deserve to live a joyless existence just because you've got things that need to be worked on. But digging yourself out of this financial hole has got to be a top priority. I know what it's like to be in a situation where you don't have time for a social life because you're too busy trying to keep your head above water. I'm still kind of in that boat even now. It's not fun, but being buried in perpetually growing debt is a lot worse.



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11 Feb 2014, 2:17 am

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OP I think a lot of us are in the same boat as you. A boat full of holes, yet since it's made of wood, it still floats, just barely.

One way to minimize debt is to ditch the car and find a homeless shelter or something similar within walking distance to food and work.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, you can find love in line at the food bank. Bring headphones or ear plugs if the people upset you.
I saw on the news recently that most relationships originate at work. One bonus of having a restaurant job is that you can meet lots of ladies.
If someone takes a lot of extra effort, or they seem to be difficult, just assume they aren't a good friend and move on to someone else.

It's true, actually more than half of the young people in USA are gold digging and shallow according to countless social science studies. (that I won't give links to because I want to seem like I'm making baseless claims. /sarcasm) Maybe they'll grow out of it.
The demographics say that most of them pool in towns with lots of liberals and social activism. That's a weird correlation, no?

Remember, ladies, huge generalizations don't necessarily include you, but they aren't necessarily false either, so it's best not to get upset about them. And guys make them because they're frustrated and need to vent. No reason to get all indignant.

I was raised by all women, too, but they were anything but kind...


its how my younger sister and my niece is, they were spoiled so they like guys who will continue that. they've tended to be with guys who emotional abuse them but give them gifts ugh.


the city next to us(connected) is a big liberal democrat college town.

how would becoming homeless decrease the debt? i wouldn't get the ssi anymore as no address, and i feel if the bank can get its debt wiped clean so should i. i mean they money they'd owed was the same money they lent to me, so it doesn't make sense if they wiped it clean i still owe it o.O

i don't want to date 90 year old guys, thank you very much and that's all one sees at my food bank.

i meet 1000s of women at my seasonal job, but there isn't a chance to try to bond or ask them out, plus 97% of them are way out of my league, also if i somehow did end up with one they and then it ended badly they could get me fired.

i have heard that women are better in other states like Montana, or Iowa etc, but i have no way to go there.

sorry they weren't kind


i'm just saying i would be like what i want in a lady
good job,
good car,
own nice place,
ahtletc and skinny
oh and good personality
stuff in common

wouldn't you women be offended by such a list? it clearly prioritizes items and wealth over personality and common interests.