Youngest age to date with a girl?

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22 Feb 2018, 9:41 pm

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As long as you're both adults, do what makes you happy and try not to hurt anyone.

I'm 18 years older than my wife, and we've been together 12 years and have two kids. When I was much younger (28), I dated a woman 14 years my senior. Do what works for you.

Wow so you were 42 and she was 24? Impressive! I can only hope to have that much appeal when I'm 42.


Yeah, she's smart and beautiful too. No idea what she was thinking.

How did you do it? Were you charming? Were you middle class? Did you impress her with your wealth or your good looks? What did you do?


I gave her my email address and she wrote to me.

I was doing just ok financially, not rich at all. I was still relatively good-looking then. But I think it was actually my eccentricity and encyclopedic knowledge of certain subjects that attracted her. (She was an astrophysics student.)


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We’re done here. There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER for you to behave uncivilly towards me. I’ve done nothing to you. Perhaps in a day or so you can calm down and we can try again on friendlier terms, but enough is enough.


Chronos has sound logic, what are you going on about exactly? How was she being uncivil? If one is the be a true gentleman you should have just conceded to the debate because you lost, not accuse her of something that is unfounded.


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22 Feb 2018, 10:54 pm

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try to break your interest in this age-group girls to understand what really attracts you – is the care-free? less experience? playfulness? so focus on this things. if it's purely the age, i would suggest re-thinking it.

In my case it's not the care-free, it's not less experience and it's not playfulness. It's looks.

I like young, attractive looking women, even if they're not care-free and playful.

I know there are young women who are serious and I've certainly met older women who are playful and young at heart.

But since I prefer youthful looks, that can't easily be separated from their actual age.


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23 Feb 2018, 12:59 am

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In my case it's not the care-free, it's not less experience and it's not playfulness. It's looks.

I like young, attractive looking women, even if they're not care-free and playful.

I know there are young women who are serious and I've certainly met older women who are playful and young at heart.

But since I prefer youthful looks, that can't easily be separated from their actual age.

I'm the opposite from you: I'm more interested in carefree playfulness than youthful looks. Although the looks do help :D. For example, I like women who are cool with getting Slurpees from 7-11, sneaking vodka into them, then sipping on them while sitting on playground swings. I've met a 20-something woman who was cool with it, and me and her are still friends now. I have yet to meet a 30-something woman who feels the same way. (I'm in my mid 30's.)



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23 Feb 2018, 1:15 am

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These aren't psychologically healthy relationships. There's typically an imbalance of power where the male plays a "father" role, taking advantage of the younger woman's lack of life experience. A woman that young can become overly dependent on the older man instead of achieving her own independence.

I dunno...I mean, if that’s what a woman feels she needs or wants in a life partner, I see nothing intrinsically wrong with that.

There are risks and benefits for any pairing you can imagine. Older/younger pairs at extremes don’t offend me. It’s the motivation behind it. If a man is only attracted to 18-21 year olds, what happens if a LTR develops and she ages out? Trade her out for a new model? That’s unfair to her because you refuse to see her as anything more than her age. But if you don’t value relationships and she understands FWB/NSA is as far as it goes, then you’ve got a winner. My personal preference is towards longer commitments, so I could never do that. But it might work out well for someone else.

Then you have the kink/fetish aspect of only dating (“barely legal”) teens. I would say that’s a problem because the same justification makes pedophilia ok. The difference is only that one will land you in prison while the other will not. It might not constitute an actual psychological problem, but then it might. It’s more a philosophical problem to work out—SHOULD one only date within a certain age range, and why? Depending on your goals for a relationship, you might have safer alternatives.
I felt like a parent with my two exes. The 1st never knew her dad & she had some issues & looked up to me. I did NOT get in that relationship because I felt like a parent. I got in it because she seemed alot happier with me in her life as a great friend. I wanted to help her with things because I cared about her & loved her. We seemed like we were both better people in each others lives so getting in a romantic realtionship made sense. I wasn't really friends with my 2nd girlfriend before we got together but it seemed like she was wanting companionship & some other things I was out of a realtionship so I thought why not. I did fall in love with her pretty fast thou & I thought she loved me(she told me she did). She seemed pretty mature & smart compared to me & the realtionship was kind of one-sided on her side. I was willing to make most of the compromises & go along with what she wanted. I still felt like a parent with her at times I think because of our age difference & because she got overwhelmed easily. I do feel kind of like a parent with Cass sometimes but that's because she does have some mental & physical issues that she's been dealing with for aLONG time. I had some of the same mental things she's had but managed to recover or at least get alot of my symptoms under control(for the most part compared to how bad I was). She needs a lot of emotional support at times . I am technically classified as her caretaker so my income won't interfere with some of her benefits. She would have major problems living alone; she's done it before & knows she cant handle it. Her docs & psychs were willing to fill out the paperwork that she needs a caretaker cuz they know she does have major issues with living alone & things. I would have major problems living alone too thou cuz there's certain chores I cant do & my issues are worse when I'm alone. We're both better off living with someone we can be emotionally close & interment with(I'm talking emotional intimacy NOT sexual). Our relationship does work for us for the most part. We do have disagreements & things sometimes cuz our issues can clash. There's certain things I'm not great at helping her with cuz of my issues & she has a hard time asking for what she wants/needs cuz of the way she was brought up. I'm more than willing to do my best cuz I love & care about her but I just don't always know what to do or how to go about it. I think another reason I felt like a parent with all 3 of them is because I'm very protective of my romantic partners. I would feel protective even if the women was a lot older & didn't have any major issues(I cant imagine why that type would want to be with me thou except tbecaus she'd want to feel like a mom with me). I guess my point is that I don't have a problem with an older guy being somewhat of a father figure or an older women being somewhat of a mother figure as long as it's what their partner wants & needs. There's going to be some clashes if it doesn't work well for the younger person; I found that out in my 2nd realtionship.


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23 Feb 2018, 1:41 am

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23 Feb 2018, 2:50 am

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I will let this go but first I need to make this clear, if there are any bisexual trans hermaphrodite unicorns that poop rainbow frozen yogurt out there reading this, please say hello.


What?

It's relevant to the comment by AngelRho made just before it. It was such a long load of quotes inside quotes that I didn't bother quoting it all. You can go back and read it (it's in the bit at the bottom) but I wouldn't bother, it's not as interesting as it sounds.



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23 Feb 2018, 5:14 am

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In my case it's not the care-free, it's not less experience and it's not playfulness. It's looks.

I like young, attractive looking women, even if they're not care-free and playful.

I know there are young women who are serious and I've certainly met older women who are playful and young at heart.

But since I prefer youthful looks, that can't easily be separated from their actual age.

I'm the opposite from you: I'm more interested in carefree playfulness than youthful looks. Although the looks do help :D. For example, I like women who are cool with getting Slurpees from 7-11, sneaking vodka into them, then sipping on them while sitting on playground swings. I've met a 20-something woman who was cool with it, and me and her are still friends now. I have yet to meet a 30-something woman who feels the same way. (I'm in my mid 30's.)

Yes we are opposites. It takes all kinds of people. I don't mind playful girls but I like serious girls. I like girls who have a plan for their lives and are devoted to it. Like those serious girls because I can have a stable life with them. I don't mind playful girls but I hate immature girls who's lifeplan consists of smoking pot and watching Netflix. I want a girl with more ambition than that.

Fortunately, women aged 18 - 21 are not all lacking ambition and some girls that age are very serious. I've met them. Some can even be playful as well as serious.


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23 Feb 2018, 5:50 pm

I haven't read all 6 pages, so hopefully someone has said this already.

Date any legal (18 and over) person who wants to date you but do NOT lie or mislead about your age.

I get the impression you prefer to withhold that information (you plan to intentionally make yourself look younger), but in my opinion doing so long term is morally wrong, and the longer you wait to tell the truth once a real relationship starts the more hot water you will be in with the woman you are seeing. You can maybe get away with not bringing it up for the first few dates, but not after that, you MUST disclose. And if she asks before you are ready MUST answer honestly. I also think you have to be honest before getting intimate.

Do not lie to or mislead someone you want a relationship with. Ever. Since you've never had a serious relationship that is the most important thing for you to understand going in. You cannot have a decent relationship by being fake. All you can achieve when you lie is a trail of women who will rightfully think you are the biggest manipulator and douche they have ever met.


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23 Feb 2018, 6:59 pm

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I haven't read all 6 pages, so hopefully someone has said this already.

Date any legal (18 and over) person who wants to date you but do NOT lie or mislead about your age.

I get the impression you prefer to withhold that information (you plan to intentionally make yourself look younger), but in my opinion doing so long term is morally wrong, and the longer you wait to tell the truth once a real relationship starts the more hot water you will be in with the woman you are seeing. You can maybe get away with not bringing it up for the first few dates, but not after that, you MUST disclose. And if she asks before you are ready MUST answer honestly. I also think you have to be honest before getting intimate.

Do not lie to or mislead someone you want a relationship with. Ever. Since you've never had a serious relationship that is the most important thing for you to understand going in. You cannot have a decent relationship by being fake. All you can achieve when you lie is a trail of women who will rightfully think you are the biggest manipulator and douche they have ever met.
Lying & misleading about things in relationships works really well in the movies. A guy really likes a girl & puts on an act to impress her & then she develops real feelings for him based on his personality & still gives him a real chance after he cant keep the lye up anymore. Movies aren't real life thou & I think honesty is a good approach most of the time. Us Aspie just have to be carefull thou because we tend to be too upfront in general which is a major girl repellent. We cant lay everything on the line all at 1ce.


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23 Feb 2018, 8:41 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
I haven't read all 6 pages, so hopefully someone has said this already.

Date any legal (18 and over) person who wants to date you but do NOT lie or mislead about your age.

I get the impression you prefer to withhold that information (you plan to intentionally make yourself look younger), but in my opinion doing so long term is morally wrong, and the longer you wait to tell the truth once a real relationship starts the more hot water you will be in with the woman you are seeing. You can maybe get away with not bringing it up for the first few dates, but not after that, you MUST disclose. And if she asks before you are ready MUST answer honestly. I also think you have to be honest before getting intimate.

Do not lie to or mislead someone you want a relationship with. Ever. Since you've never had a serious relationship that is the most important thing for you to understand going in. You cannot have a decent relationship by being fake. All you can achieve when you lie is a trail of women who will rightfully think you are the biggest manipulator and douche they have ever met.

People didn't have hang ups in regards to huge age gaps when it came to dating more than a hundred years ago. Today you would have to go to like Eastern Europe where you can find 18-21 year old blondes who date guys 10-15 or even 20 years older than themselves.

I feel that in terms where I stand in life I relate to most 20-21 year olds rather than people in their early 30s who have already settled financially, career wise, and more.



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23 Feb 2018, 8:44 pm

As long as it's legal, it doesn't matter to me.



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23 Feb 2018, 9:04 pm

I think a few young women are actually attracted to guys ten or more years older than them. Most of them aren't.


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23 Feb 2018, 9:56 pm

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DW_a_mom wrote:
I haven't read all 6 pages, so hopefully someone has said this already.

Date any legal (18 and over) person who wants to date you but do NOT lie or mislead about your age.

I get the impression you prefer to withhold that information (you plan to intentionally make yourself look younger), but in my opinion doing so long term is morally wrong, and the longer you wait to tell the truth once a real relationship starts the more hot water you will be in with the woman you are seeing. You can maybe get away with not bringing it up for the first few dates, but not after that, you MUST disclose. And if she asks before you are ready MUST answer honestly. I also think you have to be honest before getting intimate.

Do not lie to or mislead someone you want a relationship with. Ever. Since you've never had a serious relationship that is the most important thing for you to understand going in. You cannot have a decent relationship by being fake. All you can achieve when you lie is a trail of women who will rightfully think you are the biggest manipulator and douche they have ever met.

People didn't have hang ups in regards to huge age gaps when it came to dating more than a hundred years ago. Today you would have to go to like Eastern Europe where you can find 18-21 year old blondes who date guys 10-15 or even 20 years older than themselves.

I feel that in terms where I stand in life I relate to most 20-21 year olds rather than people in their early 30s who have already settled financially, career wise, and more.


100 years ago marriage was much less about love and attraction and much more about economics and social norms. My great great great great grandmother was 15 when she married her first husband, who was almost 50. Why? Because she became pregnant by him out of wedlock. I'm not sure if this was a consensual encounter or if he raped her...he was renting a room in her family's house, but it was less socially acceptable to have a child out of wedlock, particularly given their religion, than for a child to marry an older grown man. He died four years later leaving her widowed with two young children. A year after his death, when she was 20, she remarried my great great great great grandfather, who was the more proper age of 25.



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23 Feb 2018, 10:11 pm

On my mother's side, I don't even know any of my great-grandparents' names.

I didn't know my grandfather on my mother's side was named Irving until a couple of years ago. He passed away in 1946.

My father's side is more well-documented.

You have a well-documented family history, Chronos.



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23 Feb 2018, 11:13 pm

For a long time, my grandmother didn’t know that the father that was raising her was not her biological father. My great grandmother had her at the age of 16. They were not married and according to my great grandmother’s accounts he left her after she was with child. Her family still accepted her but she was kicked out and left on her own. She eventually married a man that was a couple of years older than her. He supported the family. Having a child out of wedlock was apparently a big no no. Even my grandmother who lived in a more progressive time used to us that there was stigma attached to single non married mothers. I imagine an older man usually meant a man with more education and better work experience than say a younger guy.


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